Sounds like you need to get thee to one of Obama's secret FEMA camps for a little re-grooving.

you could spend some time thinking about why ya so hard. Peer pressure? Respect if others is "too much work"? Can't do that and be a good dem- as most POC and women already do?

Also- people are complaining the joke was racist - and it was. When you pretend it's a blanket commendation of him as a racist that's dishonest and minimizes our voices.

That's no way to be an ally. You pretend like ya too much work to be respectful and have solidarity with the base or the damn party- yet you waste time defending a blowhard hypocrite, really?

Still don't. And I'm positive he's not a racist. So?

It's time to recalibrate and realize your feelings aren't the biggest issue here. HBO and Maher himself can admit it's problematic but you just gotta die on this hill,eh?
What's THAT about?

I believe the joke, along with its meaning, went over the heads of many.

Based on the concept of who's a house slave and who's a field slave. I think most fifth graders get the distinction. There's a huge difference between understanding it and thinking its okay- is that really difficult to understand? "Humor" is often like that.

Why do you need to stoop to insulting people to defend this man's remarks? That's incredibly divisive.

remark.

The fact that you failed to address the rest of the joke proves my point.

As I said before, why do you assume it was intellectually challenging for anyone to understand? It wasn't at all.
Why do you assume if understood, it would automatically be funny? That's a huge leap.

Those are some big assumptions- and patronizing ones.
I'll assume you're smart enough to see why. Give me the same respect next time.

statement to. He was holding a mirror up to his "guest" who actually does hold the views that Maher expressed to him. Through the joke, he exposed Sasse with a backhanded slap of a comment.

Sasse set himself up, and Maher took the shot we all wish we could have.

Is that it? I thought we covered that, but sure.

The only part I actually found funny? The aftermath where Maher fulfills his own phropecy and becomes the "house slave" by betraying his mantra to "never apologize" for a corporate payout. Quite the comeuppance for the anti PC crusader, wasn't it?

People's heads.

Maher wasn't making a comment about "shitty labor situations".

How does he make that analogy- without making the analogy? What exactly is wrong w my interpretation?

It wasn't about comparing people. It was about saying "if this guy (Sasse)had his way, every black person in America would be a white person's property." And that statement is not hyperbolic, it's the truth.

But you're saying it was never about the fields and slave wages at all? It's not about kids and Mexicans exploited labor but how people like Sasse want to export other vulnerable populations? Is it also a veiled reference to how the prison industrial complex does that? Not sure what's going on in Iowa that owning slaves is a thing you casually joke about. What's the backstory?

Unless you mean child slaves or Mexican slaves... that's seems to be mixing a lot of metaphors.

I think this makes less sense than any answer I got in my thread asking. No one else has this take on it that Sasse is so key except as a convienient foil for the joke the (republicans wishing they had to pay nothing to workers in) fields gave him an oppprtubity to run with.


It's not that complicated. Not at all.

Now try asking Afam voters, who's votes the democrats need to get any of the things in the list passed, if n-word jokes by white comedians sit right w/ them. Try asking women, who marched historically after the inauguration, and are the driving force of the resistance if "C-word" and rape jokes by male comedians offend them.

It is quite possible to be offended by both.

Are only realities only when the initial offense becomes accepted.

these days, and outrage is so much easier. This is why the USA is such a litigious society, which is right down Trump's alley. You called me a what? I'll sue...

Like George Carlin said words are just words it's the intention and person that says them. We all know bill Maher isn't a racist

Offended by a quote from a famous novel. Plus he was talking about himself. Not someone else.

I just wish we could get to a point where we concentrate not on people who say offensive things and focus on the ones that do offensive and reprehensible things.

P.S. Anthony Jeselnik...... So dark and funny.

...those that steal Supreme Court Vacancies as did McBitch McConnell and the entire republican cabal.

And you are proud of this fact?

And can only shake my head at those who don't.

That's punching down.

So just who was he "punching down" to?

How the fuck is that funny?

He's privileged because many people consider him funny and/or insightful. He donated a million dollars to help re-elect Obama and (from what I've heard) dates mostly woman of color. Peddle your racist charges elsewhere.

of minorities. This isn't brought about in a vacuum, after all. He's your run of the mill, lowest common denominator entertainer, I do find most of his fanbase to be infuriating though, particularly in their thoughtless bigotry and lack of awareness for the feelings of others.

As I've previously stated, he's not among my favorites. My intention was not to defend him per se, but rather to point out the misguided focus of the current poutrage.


footnote- I really doubt you have any actual knowledge of his fanbase.

"poutrage". Shall I go on?

By the way, the focus isn't on Maher, but on the misguided defenders of his use of the n-word, they need help, for they lack the introspection and empathy necessary to put themselves in the shoes of someone who is offended by Maher's careless and hurtful use of the n-word.

and you claim I'm the one with the narrow mind?

Let me ask you something then, if you ever go to a home game, do you ever go north of Delmar?

So there we are
DU pissing on allies yet again

The perspective is right on target as well.

My sentiments exactly.