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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Tracey tweeted Maxine Waters "shoved" him. Here's video. This is what he is calling a shove
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Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)to get the microphone out of her face.
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)Cattledog
(5,919 posts)alwaysinflux
(149 posts)I love her and her brave determined energy. She makes me feel like there's hope in the world.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)and i am about half her age .
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Response to kpete (Original post)
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NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)True snowflake.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)What a shove looks like.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Just flat out lying imo.. she was defending herself if anything from having the mic shoved in her face.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I hope he gets to a safe space
Turbineguy
(37,365 posts)It's amazing he survived. That was worse than D-Day!
ADX
(1,622 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)With his microphone. In her face. I would have shoved it out of the way, too, if that was me. What a lying jackass.
cilla4progress
(24,766 posts)Flake
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Fraud.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)If you don't want your microphone pushed away, don't shove it in someone's face when they're trying to walk away.
Les Cowbell
(84 posts)targetpractice
(4,919 posts)... Despite being a young man he should know that. I hope I never find myself choking on some food, and signaling with both hands around my neck with him nearby.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,995 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)wearing a neck brace with his arm in a sling, towing a lawyer who will help him sue her bodily injury.
Yeesh, what a baby! I take that back; most babies would have thought she was playing pattycake.
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central scrutinizer
(11,661 posts)[link:https://m.
|Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Nevr heard of him.
emulatorloo
(44,182 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:17 AM - Edit history (1)
https://democraticunderground.com/10029029453blogslut
(38,016 posts)This is a shove:
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)DangerousRhythm
(2,916 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Undoubtedly one of the single toughest men I've ever seen.
elleng
(131,107 posts)GOT IT 'dude???'
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)It looked like she just held her hand up to shield her face from him.
Zambero
(8,965 posts)oasis
(49,407 posts)calimary
(81,466 posts)If that's a "shove," I'm sorry - he's WAY overreacting. He's WAY out to lunch.
Maxine ROCKS! I bet she could have shown him what a REAL shove looks like.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)orangecrush
(19,617 posts)politicat
(9,808 posts)He's got a foot of height and is three times her weight, and he cannot bear that an elderly black woman wouldn't take his entitled bullshit.
spanone
(135,873 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)That was no shove ass hole.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)She should have put both hands around his throat and body slammed him.
That is a proven GOP accepted response!
bucolic_frolic
(43,286 posts)Push that idea everywhere. Kathy Griffin, tasteless or not, is being excoriated
on message boards. Did they treat Ted Nugent that way? Mention him and they
just deny it.
They are playing victims. Call them on it.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Lying snowflake.
mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)he would have gone down like a stone and she would have walked over him..
What a baby, can't believe he'd say anything about this. He looks like a fool.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)Definitely a flake anyhow.
MiltonBrown
(322 posts)Montana R was justified in body slamming a reporter who was being 'pushy' but this innocent (young male) reporter was brutally assaulted (brushing his arm) by a woman in her late 70s!
Right or wrong is only determined once the actors involved are identified and it is known where their political loyalties lie. Republicans do no wrong and Democrats do no right.
Facts, video and audio evidence and such have a well known liberal bias and must be ignored. The audacity of their twisted logic never ceases to amaze me.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Year and coincidentally were taking funds from GOPers.
I'd be shocked if they're not being investigated for ties too. As bad as Breibart.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I have been a paying member of the young turks for 3 years and watched their shown for two years before that. I never once heard them spew any talking points. In fact, Cenk specifically and vocally begged everyone to vote for Hillary in the election. How is that anti Hillary shilling for Russia? That said, they did mention that there have been quite a few people post the same exact talking point you posted via comments and email over and over again such as the one you have posted. Where did you get it from, because it simply is not true.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That there is nothing to see in the Russian investigation.
They take money from RWers - and apparently your money too. Whoops!
I'm sorry if you missed all the blind HRC hatred last year, all the emails bullshit.... but surely you watched this clip with Maxine- trying to equate Obamas negotiating w Russia a while back with what Trump is doing now?
They're fake progressives dude. Cenk was always conservative - then he hated "mainstream Dems"- not hard to figure out.
Like Stein and Sarandon they're useful idiots for RWers. I think Sarandon is the only one of them not profiting from RWers.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Cenk has literally said over the last two weeks that there is no doubt that Trump colluded with the Russians. You obviously don't understand how to take things in context.
That said, you understand how primaries work, correct? Just because they backed Sanders, and after he lost and once Hillary won, Cenk immediately endorsed Hillary. It is not wrong to back some else in a primary than ultimately back the winner afterwards.
You can smear them as much as you want, but don't forget to smear Rachel Maddow for being paid by actual right wing pro-war corporations.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Two or theee days to stop trashing HRC and endorse her in the general. I have no desire to rehash the primaries, did not bring them up.
I'm talking about TYT , their funding and flinging the propaganda and yeah they were pretty ugly about it almost all of last year- and still are.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Not they aren't. They may point out the flaws of Hillary's campaign and how her staff and the DNC were incompetent and lost to Trump but that is not propaganda.
Feel free to post in context evidence to support your case and prove me wrong. Otherwise, you are insulting someone without evidence.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And realize that's why they've been in denial about the issue. They were one of the channels Russia used to spread the Wiki crap and DNC hatred.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)They reported on the information that was contained in the emails as any news outlet should. They did not write the emails, the DNC did. They did not fabricate the emails that had Donna Brazile giving the questions to Hillary, they did not fabricate the emails that had Hillary saying she had public campaign stances and her real private stances, ad nauseum. Just because TYT discussed what was leaked does not make them collaborators. Should they have not reported on what was leaked and readily available to everyone? If they ignored such, then, and only then, could you argue that they had an agenda...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And they editorialized pretty heavily about it. Sorry- they were duped by Putin and are soft selling the whole thing now because they look like fools. Their coverage of the DNC convention made their paymaster pretty fucking obvious. You had to have hate in your heart to not see it.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Did the DNC and Hillary's campaign not dispute the authenticity of the hacked emails? Of course the emails should never have been released to the publicbin the first place, but if the emails where false or altered, wouldn't you think that every person involved would have disputed the authenticity of the communications? Rather, they just said that they should not have been leaked. Not one person that had their communications released disputed the accuracy of the emails.
The only hate I have in my heart is for those that intentionally are accusing innocent people because they themselves failed.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'm sorry, I didn't buy TYT has made innocent mistakes same way I don't buy it when they claim Flynn made mistakes. Nope, they're flinging propaganda.
You want to learn about the Wiki edits do your research. What Assange presented was heavily edited and editorialized for maximum effect. TYT helped him with that. Suckers.
Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)Do a search about Michael Tracey on youtube and all you will find are videos about how Cenk "threw Tracey under the bus on Russia".
If you listen to the regulars they go off on Russia and Trump's ties ruthlessly and 100% thought Russia screwed Hillary over! Sure they are not fans of the DNC and for good reason. Most of DU hasn't been fond of the DNC.
As far as I know there are two idiots at TYT who peddle the crap about the MSM and Democrats attacking Russia under unsubstantiated claims. Those two idiots are Michael Tracey and Jimmy Dore. Please stop saying the ENTIRE network is in bed with Russia because that is blatantly false.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)You do the math. They spend the majority of their time trashing Dems. They suck.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)There was no reason for her to yell at a reporter for asking a question. If we start hating journalists for asking tough questions, of the politicians we like we are better than those that want to silence journalists.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Just because it was a tough question she did not want to answer does not mean she should not answer.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And they KNOW the answer but this dude is a Russia story denialist - Has been for a while....Claiming Flynn is merely inept?! Seriously the man was trying to give turkey over a person to execute for dollars. It's the same blame BO or HRC derangement they were into last year. Emails Wiki Guccifer boots booga. No integrity at all.
https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Michael was just saying that while their may have been collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign does not mean that every little Russian connection is treason and by sensationalizing every little connection to Russia makes the serious connections meaningless. He is merely stating that the media should focus on the concrete collisions, cover ups and lies not every single interaction with Russia.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It's been like that for more than a year, LOL.
JHan
(10,173 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Don't embarrass yourselves by pushing for an investigation, liberals! It's all red-bashing, lol.
https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05
JHan
(10,173 posts)The musings of your Typical neckbeard douchebro.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I saw a post where people who had a problem with it were asked to apologise back to Maher because he apologised.
I can't even anymore. For me it was the perfect storm of outrage over PC culture and resentment that a certain word can't be used because - though we all know it's a bad word - some folks wanna use it anyway.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)It was set up question to try and get her into a spot where she would seem to contradict herself. She saw the trap and avoided it.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Journalism.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Trying to create the appearance of a contradiction is not the same as journalism. It's one step above O'Keede and his shenanigans.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Give me a fucking break, they RT RT more than RT does. Suckers!
https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Please see, supra, my last response to you about this.
athena
(4,187 posts)is not about manipulating the narrative, twisting people's words, and claiming that someone said or did something s/he didn't say or do. Journalism is about informing the public about issues that concern them. It's sad that you seem completely unaware of the nature and purpose of journalism. You should turn off the TV, get away from the blogosphere, and get a subscription to the NYT. Read some of their major analyses to educate yourself about what journalism means.
https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials/what-is-journalism/purpose-journalism/
Excerpt:
News is that part of communication that keeps us informed of the changing events, issues, and characters in the world outside. Though it may be interesting or even entertaining, the foremost value of news is as a utility to empower the informed.
The purpose of journalism is thus to provide citizens with the information they need to make the best possible decisions about their lives, their communities, their societies, and their governments.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Sounds legit....
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)It was actually a dumbass question.
salin
(48,955 posts)Your point conflates two issues.
Should he be able to ask the question - certainly. And he was able to -and he got a reportable response.
Should his claim "she shoved me" (as in "ya Trump shoved the Prime Minister of Montenegro, but Maxine Waters shoved this reporter" predictable propaganda disinformation to be strewn from the far right in the coming work) be accepted at face value - when in the video it looks like a brush off - not physically a shove (which moves the other person's body) er no. Should be called out on this claim.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Relate to Russia today. And why does he make that false equivalency? To blame BO (for sport) and discredit the Russian scandal- again.
athena
(4,187 posts)Are you one of those who hear "yelling" whenever they hear a woman speak? I mean, one of those who see "strength" and "decisiveness" when they see a male politician do something, and "agressiveness" and "ambition" when they see a female politician do the same thing? The fact that you see anything wrong with Maxine Waters's response in the video says a lot about your views of women.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I would have reacted the same way if it were a male politician. Don't put words in my mouth if you do not know me.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Yavin4
(35,445 posts)An utter disgrace.
JI7
(89,264 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)All those warnings, making excuses for Flynn and Trump and normalizing their relations- been going on for months. But that was the bullshit premise here. Obama did it too! Same shit as last year.
JI7
(89,264 posts)the comparison to obama is a way to try to confuse or make what happened acceptable with a bs "everyone does it" type thing .
reminds me of some idiots i have seen bringing up obama supporting macron when we talk about the russian hack.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Me thinks he dost protest too much! - Shakespeare via Mary Tyler Moore
Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)The rest of TYT want's nothing to do with the utter BS Tracy spouts which has the Russian apologists all huffy puffy:
See for yourself:
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)His grin is shitty. He should be on his knees kissing Maxine's shoes. She has been fighting to give him the privilege of acting like an ass in public and parading his ignorance. What a doofus shit.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)why this hostility (and lies) about Maxine
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)People think that's what makes them honest, LOL. It's a scam. They're paid off.
Goodheart
(5,339 posts)Sheesh.