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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it a coincidence that London Bridge and Manchester happen....
...as Labour gains in the polls?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)In fact, these might contribute to the loss of faith in the Tories, who have been in charge through all this.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)But I have no doubt this is politically motivated. We know how far people will go to impact an election.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)Who benefits?
I'm reading twitter chatter alleging that Putin is behind it. Russia allegedly funds ISIS, jidadists. If true, Putin has a lot to gain by pushing rage against Muslims in UK and elsewhere.
Old Terp
(464 posts)You build on the anti outsiders (even though muslims have been British citizens for ages}. Russia wants to keep the UK out of Europe. Russia and ISIS makes sense. Let's turn all the refuges into terrorists.
Igel
(35,356 posts)Let's assume a black church burns down. "Who benefits?" after the fact, objectively in financial terms, isn't the question. It might be somebody seeking psychological satisfaction out of racist motives. That's a benefit. It might be a disgrunted parishioner getting revenge. That's a benefit. It might be a church employee or the minister faced with a truly dismal financial outlook or personal future. That's a benefit. It might be a neighbor pissed at the traffic and bad street parking during choir, Bible study, and worship-service times. That's a benefit. Or it might be a developer who wants the church land empty so he can buy it. That's a benefit. Sometimes the "benefit" was cheaper construction equipment, with no ill intent. Or a string of extension cords was overloaded. In other words, "Who benefits?" is properly answered, "Nobody."
Most of the time, though, the question is immediately answered in ways that suit the asker, not all those who might find some personal benefit. Because it's not what we think the benefit is that matters--the benefit is entirely to be seen from the perspective of the perpetrator. And while there's nothing that we armchair quarterbacks and keyboard jockeys can do, so that our opinion is perfectly pointless, we get bent out of shape--and that has effects on how we view things, on our stress levels, etc.
I find that kind of thing to be a waste of effort and energy. Then again, I find that it takes more energy and effort to get pissed off at somebody than to not get pissed off. I generally suspect most people are wired the other way around.
JI7
(89,264 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Embarrassing how little human lives mean anymore.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)but I'm not yet convinced that it will actually stop the terroristic incidents.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)I'm just pointing out the facts. It is newsworthy and everyone and their mother is presently paying attention to the story.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Igel
(35,356 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...so, yes, it is probably a coincidence.