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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Tea Partier and a Taliban terrorist bump into each other...
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cindyperry2010
(846 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Other than that, violent extremism is violent extremism, and should be treated as such.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)marching as to war. With the cross of Jesus....
That religion that justifies brutality?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)That they're both the same save for the name.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)only in the name difference. Agreed.
Spitfire of ATJ
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Yo! Dude! He was just fuckin' with ya!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)before chapel at my grade school. Still remember all the words. What an awful song to teach children.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)to DU
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Christians haven't a lot of room to talk . . . The Bible is loaded with bloodshed and their symbol is a device of torture and execution.
Daphne08
(3,058 posts)torture and execution -- all in the name of Christianity.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)There are Muslims who believe they practice a faith of peace. There are Christians who believe the same. And then there are the Inquisition followers and the witch burners who also considered themselves devout Christians.
A religion is what you make of it. If you make a bloody mess, don't blame the faith because you got it wrong.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)thousand Iraqi children. And those religious that stood behind him all the way.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Yeah, Christianity -- what a proud tradition of no bloodshed nor extremism!
skydive forever
(445 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)It's spelled correctly, so it can't be a Teabagger.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)"Deth to the haff-breed Muslin"
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)We make errors all the time.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, how often are liberal protest signs misspelled?
patrice
(47,992 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)over us will be the same. And that is a scary proposal.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Bravo
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)Yep, no difference at all.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/08/world/asia/afghanistan-public-execution/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)If the über Christians could do it here, they would. No doubt.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)if she goes out alone in a dark alley in despair, and dies after trying to do it herself, they are as guilty.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)It's a more subtle approach than the Taliban's but equally as bad.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Flatulo
(5,005 posts)That's just too over the top for me to not comment.
patrice
(47,992 posts)If friends are talking about two cars, saying they are similar in traits a, b, and c, do you assume that they are the same make?
If I say my house has 3 bedrooms, is blue, and single story and your house has 3 bedrooms, is blue, and single story, do you assume that our houses are identical, that there is no difference between them?
No you don't. You don't make that kind of logical error in lots of other situations, so why are you doing it now?
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)and is misogonyst. You *can't* tell what belongs to who.
That's the joke. You can't distinguish between the characters. When there is no way to distinguish between two things, then those things are the same.
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)POV while the other comes at their hatred from a fraudulent Islamic POV.
Each loves their gun, their holy book and hates women and homosexuals. Are you too blind not to see?
Guitarzan
(7 posts)Really!?.....the PUNCH LINE has to be explained to you? And the "logical error" thang, Ur crackin me up! Tell the truth...Ur from Okleehomee huh?!!!
Amonester
(11,541 posts)They both wage war on women.
pwhtckll
(72 posts)There was a time in the 1980s when both right-wing and left-wing terrorists trained side-by-side at the same camps in Lebanon's Beqaa Valley. Thirty years later, I wouldn't be surprised to find the anti-government right-wing militias from the US training alongside the Taliban at camps in some failed state somewhere.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)This is from the Annotated Skeptics Bible. m
Behold, the people shall rise up as a great lion, and lift up himself as a young lion: he shall not lie down until he eat of the prey, and drink the blood of the slain.--Num.23:24
But you ask me what the scariest things are in Christianity: this infatuation with biblical prophecy and this notion that Jesus is going to come back as an avenging savior to kill all the bad people. -- Sam Harris, Beliefnet inverview
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)5/6 leave it.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Christians would never hang someone.
Or y'know, use an example of Muslim extremists killing thousands of people to kill hundreds of thousands of people.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)but to compare today's Christian right, by way of a facile analogy to violent racist acts that happened here 50 years ago, with the current scourge of radical Islam practiced by the Taliban, who slaughter women and children and poison whole villages because they accepted American assistance, really, really, is ridiculous and makes DU look foolish.
I will continue to point out such ridulous bullshit.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)today's Christian right? One has a secular government that won't let them get away with that shit. They're not morally superior, they're just afraid of going to jail.
I can take you to towns here where an "Atheist" shirt would get you beaten or killed, and that's because the local cops wouldn't do anything about it.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)The religious nuts I know are utterly harmless, other than the occasional attempt to save my heathen ass. Surprisingly, a lot of them are engineers and scientists like me. The main difference is that they completely and utterly believe that Jesus is actually coming back. Then again, I live near Boston, so everyone tends to behave up here.
The Taliban, on the other hand, are savage, misogynistic, boy buggering animals living at least 1000 years behind the rest of the world. They're tribal by nature, and have no moral compass whatsoever. They're actually terribly inbred, which has created quite a mess gene-pool wise.
At least our fundies don't fuck their sons and daughters.
You might argue that the only difference is one of degree, but that's pretty big difference. A dog and a wolf look pretty similar, but not many people would put their hands in a wolfs mouth.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)"At least fundies don't fuck their sons and daughters." Again, you know different fundies from me. Everyone likes to joke about priests molesting kids, but it happens as often, probably more often, in rural fundamentalist churches. Think Warren Jeffs without the polygamy and with the cops on his side.
The degree isn't nearly as big as you think it is. It's a huge degree for you because you live in an area where they aren't allowed to get away with it. I don't argue the difference is degree, I argue the difference is opportunity. If the right wing zealots could get away with what the Taliban does, I have zero doubt they'd gleefully do it. It's not even a point that can really be argued against, because they've already done it. This isn't ancient history, most of DU was alive for the Textbook wars*. That didn't end until the government stepped in and stopped it. (It's also argued this event is one of the major starting points of the religious right in America)
Lest anyone think I mean Christians in general, I also know a lot of really good people that are Christians. They're also not insular nutty right wingers. It's the insular nutty right winginess that makes them vile people, not the Christian. It's the same thing that makes the Taliban vile.
*The Textbook Wars: http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/textbooks/books_and_beliefs.html
And that link is actually extremely kind to the anti-textbook side. It neglects to mention Horan (The leader of the anti-textbook side) and some of his buddies were indicted for multiple bombings and a plot to wire bombs to the cars of parents who were driving their kids to school. That was the government stepping in and stopping it.