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http://www.theroot.com/sunday-night-with-megyn-kelly-is-what-happens-when-medi-1795811244/amp(By Michael Arceneaux)
"The most frustrating thing about Megyn Kellys new NBC show is that it exists. In the promos leading up to the premiere of Sunday Night With Megyn Kelly, the former Fox News propagandist quips that Santa Claus is still white.
It is supposed to come across as a self-deprecating joke about the kind of controversy she caused at the conservative station, but all it does is remind you how smug, condescending and, yes, racist Kelly showed herself to be throughout her stint at Fox News.
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It was tough in that Putin is a murderous autocrat and noticeably made mention of Kellys young daughter in a panel Kelly moderated prior to their sit-down interview. Yeah, its tough in that Putin has no qualms about killing journalists like Kelly, but not so much in terms of Kellys interview skills. Putin was Putin: arrogant, willfully dishonest, and more or less rubbing his dick on the forehead of the United States of America.
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Kelly isnt exceptional enough to warrant this show; nor has Kelly done anything to immediately warrant her ability to just push Tamron Hall and Al Roker out of their successful third hour of Today for whatever hers will become. What Kelly is, though, is a pretty blond white woman who exists in the era of a racist demagogue president. A lot of executives saw his victory and, in turn, also wanted to make America white again. ....(more)
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
I can't find a link to the image.
*accidentally of course.
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Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)N.E. is TrumpNation so I guess that's their agenda.
In any case, too bad for mediocre Meghyn Kelly, too bad! LOL!
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,011 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I can't stand her and will never give her ratings.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)Yes she is attractive, but she does not have the same thing now that she use to have on Fox...(I didn't watch her
very often)...coulnd't stand her...
Now her make up doesn't look right, eye lashes or eye brows are different colors, they always look at her up
close and also her legs.....She was trying some of her LONG lost pouts, or ways to get Putin to say the right word...
didn't work for me.
Putin makes me sicker....when he talk ..there were 2 languages going on at once...and I couldn't watch it...
Oh well...
athena
(4,187 posts)She doesn't look like a person; she looks like a nondescript blonde mannequin. As an artist, I draw and paint portraits (among other things). I always struggle to identify her because her features are not constant; they change every time I see a picture of her, which is every six months or so.
Now that she's no longer very young, they're really pushing the limits to make her continue to look like a sex object. I didn't watch the show, but I saw the photographs of her dressed like a prostitute sitting next to a bunch of men dressed in suits. I have nothing against women who work as prostitutes, but there is a problem when female media personalities start dressing like them. People who watch her show should ask themselves what they're teaching their children about the roles of men and women in our society. This woman is not a journalist; the only reason she is famous is that she is very blonde and therefore appeals sexually to the typical straight American white male. What does that tell little girls who dream of being real journalists?
Skittles
(153,169 posts)why only the women?
Volaris
(10,272 posts)And know damnwell they don't have to be blonde.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)reminding that beauty is so much more than what is superficial. Knowing how much of a racist she is places ugliness in the forefront.
athena
(4,187 posts)My message was for anyone who is choosing to watch Kelly. I wasn't talking to little girls but rather to their parents. I wouldn't be so sure that the children of Fox-"News" watchers know that they don't have to be blonde and sexy to be successful. You're underestimating the power of sexism.
ETA: They will never admit it, but I'm sure there are many men on DU who are watching Kelly. If you're at all honest, you cannot deny that the whole point of Kelly is that she's a sex object.
MattP
(3,304 posts)Andrew Luck is a idiot
brush
(53,791 posts)journalistic chops.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)why can't we have a channel with real news, all the time? And good journalists.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)And, you, Megyn Kelly, are still a racist. There was nothing cute about that statement when you made it originally, and I'm STILL not laughing.
Your tenure at Fox was filled with hate, lies, and innuendo. And that qualifies you as a journalist ... how? The journalists I respect do ask hard questions ... when they are warranted. They seek the truth. They CARE about others. You? Not so much. You just said hate-filled crap you knew wasn't true to keep your misogynistic bosses at Faux happy.
NBC needs to be good and embarrassed at giving Ms. White Mediocrity her own show. The only good news in that article is that her much-hyped interview with Donald's BFF Vlad came in third in the ratings. The CBS interview with the Russian dissident beat her out.
Made a fool of her and everyone who watched expecting any semblance of the truth...
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)BigMin28
(1,177 posts)To see how to do a serious interview with the head of a foreign country, perhaps she could watch a few of the interviews Christiane Amanpour has done over the years. That is how it's done.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)She is good at what she does.
But bringing up Amanpour, and what SHE does, immediately makes Kelly look relatively but decidedly mediocre in comparison.
melman
(7,681 posts)Sure enough they don't and the linked article doesn't even claim they do.
Here is the actual first paragraph.
"The most frustrating thing about Megyn Kellys new NBC show is that it exists. In the promos leading up to the premiere of Sunday Night With Megyn Kelly, the former Fox News propagandist reveals five things we can look forward to on the show. Were supposed to forget that while at FOX News, she was smug, condescending and, yes, racist Kelly showed herself to be throughout her stint there. The days in which she wanted it to be known that Santa is white and thats that."
Either the OP made that up, or they did and have since edited it.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)article reads differently now, it must have been edited by Arceneaux or an editor at Root. If you don't believe me, a close reading of the comments section at the link will make that clear.
melman
(7,681 posts)Because it's obvious bullshit. Do you really think NBC would run such a promo?
jalan48
(13,870 posts)dalton99a
(81,516 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)She's at the low end of mediocre. I knew many student broadcasters with considerably more talent.
bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)And I said that before I even knew her politics.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)She's an inept empty skirt, which is why Putin agreed to interview with her. A tenacious, informed journalist like Rachael or Joy, would have eaten him for lunch, or at least called him on his bullshit.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)You misunderstand the purpose of an interview. Asking hard questions, yes. But attacking or debating, no. The object is to listen to the interviewee's answers for the public to hear (and to ask the right questions, of course).
Watch Charlie Rose, old Larry King shows, Tom Brokaw interviews for examples. Mike Wallace was confrontational and interviewed Putin 10 years ago, but I don't have cable so can't access that interview. I imagine that was pretty tough. He didn't mince words or hesitate to bring up uncomfortable topics. That was 60 Minutes for you. But if you come with an agenda and are too partisan, you don't get the interview in the first place, because they don't trust you to do an interview vs. a gotcha argumentative debate.
Here's a clip of Charlie Rose's 2015 interview with Putin:
Journalists & broadcasters tend to respect the office of the person they are interviewing. You don't interview the leader of a country the same way you'd interview Johnny Depp. Just because Trump doesn't respect other people doesn't mean everyone else is going to follow suit. Kelly did ask Putin about Russia interfering in the election, which was determined by 17 intel agencies. So she didn't shy away from that.
I think that generally if people don't like the interviewer, they criticize, no matter what. And if they like her, she can do no wrong. There is something called objectivity, though. Her interview seemed to be fine. Not great, not bad.
tblue37
(65,408 posts)Pres. Obama when he interviewed him:
"Journalists & broadcasters tend to respect the office of the person they are interviewing."
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)ADX
(1,622 posts)...because bringing in Kelly is at least as bad as them pushing Ann Curry out a few years ago, if not worse.
They really need to get their shit together.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Which is why Putin agreed to the interview in the first place. He knew she was. Everyone knew she was.
Malcolm Nance should have interviewed Putin.
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...would happily pay to watch.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Raise your hand if you watched her MSNBC debut.
Now, using your raised hand, SLAP THE SHIT OUT OF YOURSELF!!!
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There's nothing wrong with being white or any other race.
I'm unfamiliar with her Santa Claus statement. Santa Claus isn't real. Did she mean he was invented in the Swedish-Netherland geographical area?
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)called her a prostitute. What else do you need ?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)She has challenged Trump and other conservatives in different interviews.
She has a certain amount of integrity, she is intelligent and educated enough to conduct substantive interviews. She also doesn't intimidate easily. Definitely not the typical Fox airhead.
Do I agree with everything she says? no.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)people criticize them mercilessly. Like Greta Van Sustern. Look up the posts in this forum about her appearance and the way she speaks.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.
So, the problem I see is something that's pretty glaringly missing in the commentary piece from the OP: There's no mention about the biiiigggg elephant in the room which is that no woman other than an unusually gorgeous specimen of womanhood could have pulled this off. And being Germanic/Aryan/Nordic looking doesn't hurt.
athena
(4,187 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I was trying to say that, even though she's pretty mediocre, as someone said, and has spouted some egregious repuke propaganda alt-reality crap in the past. With a straight face.
I was trying to say that she's not a great talent. But she got hired. So how does that work? A mediocre man in her position wouldn't have to be a rare specimen of beauty. He'd have to "be good enough".
But women have to pass beauty tests as well. That's classic sexism.
Hope I made sense, I'm falling asleep!
athena
(4,187 posts)I hadn't looked at it that way, but you're right. It annoys me that she's so sexualized -- I feel this hurts other women who want to be journalists and who want to be taken seriouisly -- but it's true that if she had been male, it would have been enough to be a right-wing nutcase; sex appeal would not have been necessary.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)They'll insist you're whining or worse. Even women...too many of us have internalized the double standard.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's usually about their appearance.
Meghan Kelly is (gasp!) too pretty, so that's obviously why she got the job! And she's WHITE, too, which is horrible!
Or she's "ugly" or "weird looking"! (Greta van Sustern)
Let's just ignore the racism and misogyny of it all.
It is possible to be white, attractive, AND good at your job. That some think she's not good at her job is a legitimate criticism. I don't know. I haven't watched her much in the past. But I did see her responses to the Trump ferocious attacks on her, and she held her own with grace and professionalism. She also asked hard questions during that debate, which is what got Trump's ire up. He had even called her BEFORE the debate & asked her not to ask him that question....and she did, anyway. So kudos where kudos are due. The freepers were VERY upset with her! Their love for her turned to hatred, and they tried to get her fired, as they usually do.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I don't watch tv so I can't give examples except that I know about the event you mentioned, and I know about rw-talking points she's espoused.
Maybe the harassment accusations that she leveled--she was the first to break the bars of silence at foxworld--made her change.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)the faux noose model.. corporate media is a waist of time..