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GetRidOfThem

(869 posts) Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:36 PM Jun 2017

The problem with Francis Underwood is...

He is not as charming as Francis Urquhart (a charming villain, but a true villain), and not as much of a clown than Agent Orange (a comic idiot, but a true villain). But it is Shakespeare, all over again. All three are MacBeth...

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The problem with Francis Underwood is... (Original Post) GetRidOfThem Jun 2017 OP

I haven't watched this season yet, how's it going? JHan Jun 2017 #1

It's fun. The bodies are piling up. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #2

I've read there are some parallels with Trump scandals.. think I'll binge on it this weekend :) JHan Jun 2017 #3

Some, but of course the Underwoods are far cleverer than Dolt 45. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #4

Yup lol JHan Jun 2017 #12

There are plenty of Chump references... ADX Jun 2017 #5

Lovely. I wondered if they could have pulled off Season 5, JHan Jun 2017 #11

Season 5 better than 3 or 4, on the upswing... pnwest Jun 2017 #6

nice lol JHan Jun 2017 #10

Terrorism plays a big part of Season 5. avebury Jun 2017 #7

interesting point. ( I wouldn't put it past him either) JHan Jun 2017 #9

Urquhart was more fascinating and intelligent Ilsa Jun 2017 #8

in a conversation I had with Kevin Spacey he told me... GetRidOfThem Jun 2017 #14

I like KS. Brilliant actor. Seems like Ilsa Jun 2017 #18

This Campaign Poster Was Just a Little Too Prophetic Leith Jun 2017 #13

He's got so much going on in that face!!!!! lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #16

Not Everyone Can See the Picture Leith Jun 2017 #17

Waiting to see which one betrays the other first. Amazing. lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #15

JHan

(10,173 posts)

1. I haven't watched this season yet, how's it going?

Reply to GetRidOfThem (Original post)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:36 PM

Jun 2017

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)

2. It's fun. The bodies are piling up.

Reply to JHan (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:37 PM

Jun 2017

And Lady Macbeth is at least as evil as her husband.

JHan

(10,173 posts)

3. I've read there are some parallels with Trump scandals.. think I'll binge on it this weekend :)

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:38 PM

Jun 2017

I have a lot of catching up to do, I haven't even watched Handmaid's tale yet.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)

4. Some, but of course the Underwoods are far cleverer than Dolt 45.

Reply to JHan (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:44 PM

Jun 2017

JHan

(10,173 posts)

12. Yup lol

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:05 PM

Jun 2017

ADX

(1,622 posts)

5. There are plenty of Chump references...

Reply to JHan (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:46 PM

Jun 2017

...some are obvious and some are more subtle than others.

Overall, it was a good season; Frank and Claire don't disappoint...

JHan

(10,173 posts)

11. Lovely. I wondered if they could have pulled off Season 5,

Reply to ADX (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:04 PM

Jun 2017

the reality of politics right now is so crazy.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)

6. Season 5 better than 3 or 4, on the upswing...

Reply to JHan (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:47 PM

Jun 2017

And yeah, the bodies are piling up! LOL! Really good season.

JHan

(10,173 posts)

10. nice lol

Reply to pnwest (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:03 PM

Jun 2017

avebury

(10,952 posts)

7. Terrorism plays a big part of Season 5.

Reply to JHan (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:53 PM

Jun 2017

Today my boss made a comment that she really thought that Trump was trying to use House of Cards as a roadmap. He is running around acting like the house is on fire. He just can't pull off an Underwood move, he just isn't that bright.

JHan

(10,173 posts)

9. interesting point. ( I wouldn't put it past him either)

Reply to avebury (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:03 PM

Jun 2017

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)

8. Urquhart was more fascinating and intelligent

Reply to GetRidOfThem (Original post)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:59 PM

Jun 2017

than underwood. Trump is just greedy and vain.

What surprised me in the old Brit version was the first murder, and that mrs. Urquhart was every bit as ambitious and diabolical as her husband. I'm waiting for melania to make her move.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)

14. in a conversation I had with Kevin Spacey he told me...

Reply to Ilsa (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:31 AM

Jun 2017

...that he thought Ian Richardson was a really great actor.

Oh yeah, Spacey is a really down-to-earth nice guy. Not at all like Underwood...

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)

18. I like KS. Brilliant actor. Seems like

Reply to GetRidOfThem (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:15 AM

Jun 2017

someone who doesn't put up with crap, and doesn't dish it, either. Seems cerebral and deeply thoughtful.

The cast of the British show was marvelous. The only thing I didn't like was the reporter character calling him "Daddy". Yuck. Made my skin crawl.

Leith

(7,809 posts)

13. This Campaign Poster Was Just a Little Too Prophetic

Reply to GetRidOfThem (Original post)

Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:22 PM

Jun 2017

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)

16. He's got so much going on in that face!!!!!

Reply to Leith (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:46 AM

Jun 2017

He's laughing at it all and us, and how we play along, and reality

Leith

(7,809 posts)

17. Not Everyone Can See the Picture

Reply to lindysalsagal (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:34 AM

Jun 2017

I was on the laptop downstairs drinking my coffee - and I couldn't see the picture! Dang.

So, for those who didn't see it, it is a campaign poster from the TV show House of Cards showing Kevin Spacey as Frank Underwood. The caption next to him is "FU2016.com." Considering the recent election, that pretty much says it all.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)

15. Waiting to see which one betrays the other first. Amazing.

Reply to GetRidOfThem (Original post)

Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:45 AM

Jun 2017

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