That is a very big deal.

We have known all along that the foreign shenanigans ran deep in 2016.

Not only is this a clear cut example of cyber warfare intend to overthrow our democracy; but it also begs the question about other hacks or tampering that were not included in this document, let alone any unknown or worse yet, successful efforts.

The stories about the document's method of leaking and detection as well as the leaker are inconsequential compared to the importance of the document's content.

But it seemed to be more focused on the leaker.

All of this is just sickening.

I think the election was hacked and authorities have known about it for some time.

For several election cycles.

so

May have contacted the media via back channels asking them to squelch the story for "national security" concerns.

My guess.

what I think. Can you imagine the upheaval that would/will occur when this is confirmed? Our Constitution doesn't expressly provide for a process for dealing with this...my understanding.

And Moscow is using it to their full advantage.

But "the real stories" are that we had a leaker, Obama outed people, and that the
Democrats are just trying to cover up for Hillary losing the election.

Now they have a heads-up

the NY Times wrote about - that a female was arrested for espionage? I didn't read the article thoroughly, as it came in right around bed time last night, but I never quite got what the real story was that she gave to the media. I remember telling my husband that the real story should be the hacking - but the Trump administration only wants the leaks to stop.

"Reality Winner" is her actual name!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/06/the-easy-trail-that-led-the-feds-to-reality-winner-alleged-source-of-nsa-leak/?utm_term=.7c569fc1c231

And although they all reported it, there was a demonstrable restraint in their attention to it.

Even here at DU you sense it.

And it's been very frustrating seeing so many elections get stolen since.

I want to go there hard and fast. I want to see ALL those from trump on down perp marched to the gallows set up in front of the Capitol building for a weekend of hangings and life sentences handed down. We better get the processes of replacing this corrupt administration and the likes of Ryan,McConnell,Sessions,Giuliani etc going now somehow. And the leaker is a hero in my eyes.We need more like her.

Email systems are recognized by companies as being the least secure processes within their infrastructure and are often segregated from other, more critical systems.

And hacking an email account gets a hacker ito the companies emails. A software companies' source code, like what is described in this NSA document, would not be available to just anyone in the company.

And even if it was, it would have taken the development staff millions of man hours to write and develop that code. If the hack took place in August and they got full access on day 1 of the hack, that's not enough time to steal the code, break it, modify it, test it, and deliver it back to the developer and then have the developer deliver the broken code out to all their machines. All without anyone noticing what they've done.

What you're talking about would've been the number 1 hack of all time, and by an incredible margin. STUXNET isn't even in the same league. An organization that relies on spear fishing attacks; a low quality, easily identified, easily remedied, and easily developed hack, would be extrarinarily unlikely to then be able to develop the sophisticated code rewrite everyone is envisioning. The IT staff of that company knew within seconds that they were attacked, and would have taken steps to limit the scope of the breach.

I hate Trump as much as anyone, but don't put your hopes into this particular story as the means to bring down the administration.

I don't care too much over who said what on the internet, and who talked to who about synchronizing their message. As my father put it, "We have the right to free speech and we have the right to assemble. If you don't like what someone is saying and who they are hanging out with, oh well. I mean, I put up with you and your high school friends." If people become aware of how unreliable a source of information the internet is, maybe they will stop putting so much stock into it.

But when it comes down to us (the people of the United States of America) not being able to audit our election results openly and without prejudice than how can we guarantee that any results are reliable. This is an issue that has weighed heavily on my mind since 2000.

I desperately hope that we (the people of the United States of America) can get concrete evidence of the reliability and accuracy (or lack thereof) of our voting system. Any evidence, credible or not, that has more people question our election process is welcomed in my opinion. I feel that validity of our voting mechanism is paramount to the future success of our democracy.

(Loving the parenthesis)

I believe you know what you are talking about.

So do you have a theory as to why one of the worlds premier intel services would waste their time on something obviously ineffective?

Just give it a little time.

This has been on my mind since news of the hack began. Our lack of election integrity is the third rail of American journalism. No one touches it. I guess media management feels that exposing the fact that vote rigging is a simple matter in the US could cause a psychic break in the electorate. Once we know for sure that our votes count as little as our wishes, the government won't even have a patina of legitimacy left. Then we'll fully understand that we are ruled without consent.

preventing its own citizens learning disturbing, incriminating facts. It's not as if our adversaries don't already know about these incidents.

Thank God the alleged leaker is a young relatively low level contract employee.

It would be tragic if anyone higher up the NSA food chain was held responsible for something a subordinate did, wouldn't it?

Your subject line!

because they might want to avoid the issue with CBS/ W's records where the story was true but the document was fake, which discredited the story.

I wouldn't put it past Putin's people to slip a fake document to some 25 year old defense contractor as a distraction to discredit the hacking story.

It's possible that NYT, WP, etc. aren't reporting it because they can't independently confirm the authenticity of the document.

She admitted she got it from the NSA.

operation and targeting board individuals for credentials that seem to be new info.

The workings of the operation are certainly interesting.

and 538 showed that statistically Trump didn't 'over perform' in actual voting patterns.

this in't it.

As far as I can see, it's just evidence of an email/malware/phishing attack, which while not trivial, is not earth shattering either (less significant than hacks of the DNC server, etc.). There is *speculation* that they may have been attempting to use this hack to make it harder for people to vote, but I've only seen that as third party speculation, there's nothing that goes that far in the NSA docs (as far as I saw)... no proof that they actually were using it for this, much less any evidence that they actually succeeded. (Besides, when it comes to trying to make it harder for people to vote, the Republicans have already been doing this for years. )

Here's the headline/summary of the report:

"RussiaICybersecurity: Main Intelligence Directorate Cyber Actors,Target U.S. Companies and Local U.S. Government Officials Using Voter Registration-Themed Emails, Spoof Election-Related Products and Services, Research Absentee Ballot Email Addresses"

Short version, this is what I think it means: The perpetrators hacked an election software/hardware company to send emails to election officials, with subject lines and content designed to make the recipients think they were getting legitimate emails about voter registration, and the emails contained spoofed malware links, with the goal of possibly setting these officials up to use phony election related services.

Bad? Yes. Huge banner headline? Compared to most of what's been going on, probably not. (Especially since I don't think there's even any evidence of their having succeeded in getting people to use any such phony services.)

a companion piece. Don't get how the contractor's arrest is such a story (at NYT, WaPo, etc.) without any focus on what she was revealing... especially since the arrest proves the source of the info. (Yet the staggeringly inconsequential Podesta email messages required the full Woodward/Bernstein treatment.)

The true media - WaPo, NYT, Politico, LA times, ChiTrib, Atlantic etc have been so cowed by attacks from the right that they overreact and tilt each story away from the left.

I apologize if I missed a post in this thread that references Rogers' testimony tomorrow before the Senate Intelligence Committee. But I find it puzzling that there is no (or almost no) discussion of the possibility that Rogers' testimony will be the vehicle that will elevate the media (public ) attention concerning the content of the leaked NSA document. Indeed, isn't at least worth some speculation that considers whether Ms Winner had just this possibility in mind in deciding when to release the NSA document.

I would love to see a county by county study of the of the types of machines used and the results for WI, MI, PA, OH, NC and FL and see if any trends pop out.

eventually they'll become one story

www.theguardian.com

Ooooohhhhh.... dear America, what shall we do?

But each newspaper has so much on their own plate, with their own breaking news, that these are not normal news cycles.

Normally there's enough time for newspapers to analyze each others' breaking stories. That's not really true right now.

It's the most important story of the week.