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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:40 PM Jun 2017

Nevada's legislature just passed a radical plan to let anybody sign up for Medicaid

Updated by Sarah Kliffsarah@vox.com Jun 6, 2017, 8:00am EDT

Nevada, with little fanfare or notice, is inching toward a massive health insurance expansion — one that would give the state’s 2.8 million residents access to a public health insurance option.

The Nevada legislature passed a bill Friday that would allow anyone to buy into Medicaid, the public program that covers low-income Americans. It would be the first state to open the government-run program to all residents, regardless of their income or health status.

The bill is currently sitting with Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, a Republican. His office did not respond to an inquiry about whether he would sign the bill or veto it.

Democrats in Washington have previously proposed a similar “Medicare for all” scheme, which would open up the public program for the elderly to Americans under 65. The idea has always fizzled out, however, due to a lack of political support.

“Medicaid for all” offers an alluring alternative to those proposals. For one, Medicaid coverage generally costs less than “Medicare for all” because the program pays doctors lower rates. This might make it a more alluring option for price-sensitive consumers worried about their monthly premium.

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/6/15731622/nevada-medicaid-for-all

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Nevada's legislature just passed a radical plan to let anybody sign up for Medicaid (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
I may just have to move to Nevada!!!! bresue Jun 2017 #1
This Would Be Terrific Leith Jun 2017 #2
Sandoval is know doubt waiting Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #3
Medicaid? greymattermom Jun 2017 #4
From the article IronLionZion Jun 2017 #6
The public option! IronLionZion Jun 2017 #5
This concerns me for the doctors and other providers of care, and possibly their numbers. Ilsa Jun 2017 #7
Yes, let's all be concerned about the doctors and their "numbers" Merlot Jun 2017 #8
How much doctors are reimbursed will also affect availability of services, Ilsa Jun 2017 #9
When the choice is to wait months or not have any coverage Merlot Jun 2017 #10
Canada? WTF? Ilsa Jun 2017 #11

Leith

(7,809 posts)
2. This Would Be Terrific
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jun 2017

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Sandoval, the governor, is rethug, but he was with the ACA Medicaid expansion from the beginning and without dressing it up in a different name to fool the rabid reichwingers. He could very well sign it unless his fascist party gets to him first.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Sandoval is know doubt waiting
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jun 2017

for his check in the mail. After all he is a lamb ducky and is not running for anything next year. It is up to Sheldon and Steve if this goes forward.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
4. Medicaid?
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:38 AM
Jun 2017

So will they force doctors to accept it? It doesn't pay them enough for them to keep their offices open. Medicare is better, but it's a federal program.

IronLionZion

(45,458 posts)
6. From the article
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jun 2017
Medicaid and Medicare are similar programs in that they are publicly run and large, covering 62 million and 43 million Americans, respectively. They can use their large membership to negotiate lower prices with hospitals and doctors. Medicaid tends to have the lowest payment rates. On average, Medicaid pays 66 percent of what Medicare pays doctors.

In Nevada, Medicaid pays 81 percent of Medicare rates.

This has the advantage of keeping Medicaid a relatively low-cost program per person — but also the disadvantage of some doctors deciding not to accept Medicaid’s lower rates. A recent federal survey estimates that 68.9 percent of doctors are accepting new Medicaid patients, compared to 84.7 percent accepting new patients with private insurance.


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Looks like it could work in Nevada because the costs are closer to Medicare's. State variance might work in cases like this. If they get successful outcomes, I can see more states doing it. Public hospitals and clinics will take Medicaid.

IronLionZion

(45,458 posts)
5. The public option!
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:11 PM
Jun 2017

holy shit!

When the federal government is run by an orange twittler, states have to get creative. This is so Republican. Maybe get the Republican governor to sign it by saying it's states rights or something conservatives like.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. This concerns me for the doctors and other providers of care, and possibly their numbers.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:27 PM
Jun 2017

Many doctors limit the number of Medicaid patients so they can get a mix of patients with insurance or Medicare with higher payouts. They'll be looking at their income declining, won't they? I wonder if doctors will leave Nevada for higher payments in another state?

I like the idea, overall, but wonder what the projections show. Will they have more paying patients?

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
8. Yes, let's all be concerned about the doctors and their "numbers"
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 06:16 PM
Jun 2017

Don't pay any attention the patients and their numbers, ie lack of abiity to afford coverage if they are older and have pre-existing conditions.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
9. How much doctors are reimbursed will also affect availability of services,
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jun 2017

like it or not. It also will affect how much time the dr has to see you, whether there is a nurse on staff vs an aide, and whether doctors will move to or stay in Nevada. My friend's son has student loans totalling over $250k, and he didn't attend an ultra prestigious or expensive medical school. I know GPs and pediatricians making only a little more than senior software engineers.

Certainly, the goal is to get everyone affordably insured. But they also need access, and that won't happen if they have to wait months to see their doctor, or have to travel hundreds of miles. Reimbursement rates need to be reviewed, too, as part of this overhaul process.

Everyone is quick to proclaim the idea is great, and maybe it is. I could have gone on about that as well. But the business side is also part of how the whole thing works. It can't be ignored.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. When the choice is to wait months or not have any coverage
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:28 PM
Jun 2017

waiting months doesn't sound so bad. The whole "waiting months like they do in Canada" mantra is getting old. It's the boggie man of coverage for everyone.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
11. Canada? WTF?
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:53 PM
Jun 2017

Don't put words in my mouth or in my reply.

Feel free to ignore the business side of healthcare. The people who make a living providing services won't ignore it. And you don't know how many doctors will refuse additional Medicaid patients.

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