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Reality Winner is such a great name. So symbolic. (Original Post) kwassa Jun 2017 OP
How Ironic that she will help to take down the ultimate Reality Loser! PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #1
Reality Winner vs Reality Loser. Trump's Lies Revealed by Leak, Ironically Maybe Led to Leak Too. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #16
I guess it's fitting for a country that elected a reality TV "star". LisaM Jun 2017 #2
You think she named herself? jberryhill Jun 2017 #3
Actually, I read yestereday that her name was Sara. LisaM Jun 2017 #6
Point taken jberryhill Jun 2017 #8
Her given name is Sara. nt B2G Jun 2017 #7
Source? jberryhill Jun 2017 #9
The FBI affidavit for arrest cites Reality Leigh Winner countryjake Jun 2017 #13
I read yesterday that she had her name legally changed B2G Jun 2017 #14
Yeah, I saw it yesterday too, but not at any verifiable source countryjake Jun 2017 #21
Trying to find it. B2G Jun 2017 #15
I hate when that happens jberryhill Jun 2017 #17
Could definitely be that B2G Jun 2017 #19
Yeah, I wasn't needling you to "win" some sort of argument jberryhill Jun 2017 #20
LOL, were you Baby X until you got old enough to pick out LisaM? FSogol Jun 2017 #4
Well - the Feds are dealing with Reality now. jmg257 Jun 2017 #5
When this takes down Trump, Reality Winner will be championed for generations! Fluke a Snooker Jun 2017 #10
She was foolish. Igel Jun 2017 #11
As long as it ends in Trump's removal from office Fluke a Snooker Jun 2017 #12
The essential facts of this report were already in a Senate summary, though jberryhill Jun 2017 #18

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
16. Reality Winner vs Reality Loser. Trump's Lies Revealed by Leak, Ironically Maybe Led to Leak Too.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:08 PM
Jun 2017

Not everyone is willing to stand idly by and watch election interference happen:

Reality Winner versus Reality Loser. Trump's Lies Revealed by Leak.

Nothing to see here, move along.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
2. I guess it's fitting for a country that elected a reality TV "star".
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jun 2017

Too bad; it's very difficult to take anyone who names herself "Reality Winner" seriously.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. You think she named herself?
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jun 2017

I would guess her parents had more to do with that than she did.

But, really? You are blaming her for her name? Where did you get this information?

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
6. Actually, I read yestereday that her name was Sara.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:49 PM
Jun 2017

If she did not name herself, I stand corrected. But, since reality TV shows (named as such, anyway) weren't really a thing 25 years ago, I'm going to say the jury is out on this one.

If she didn't give herself this moniker, my bad.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. Point taken
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jun 2017

I guess we'll eventually find out.

I just assumed she had amusing parents.

Although it seems that "Sara" was a pseudonym she used:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/reality-winner-who-is-accused-leaker/index.html

"Reality Winner posted under a pseudonym, Sara Winners, but didn't seem concerned with concealing her identity, as she used a photo of herself as a profile picture and posted a selfie in February."

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Source?
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 02:22 PM
Jun 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/reality-winner-who-is-accused-leaker/index.html

"Reality Winner posted under a pseudonym, Sara Winners, but didn't seem concerned with concealing her identity, as she used a photo of herself as a profile picture and posted a selfie in February."

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/06/who-is-reality-winner/529266/

"On Twitter, where she was active under the name Sara Winners, she frequently criticized the Trump administration’s policies, praised Edward Snowden, and on election night tweeted: “Well. People suck.”"


CNN and The Atlantic seem to disagree with you. What is the source of your information?

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
13. The FBI affidavit for arrest cites Reality Leigh Winner
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jun 2017

I highly doubt that they'd go after her using any incorrect name...their application appears to be mighty official-looking to me.

The disinformation hovering all around this leak is growing by the hour, when just a little reading-up on the case verifies what steps the authorities have taken against this woman.

I've also seen it posted here at DU that she "stupidly emailed the NSA document using her own gmail account" when every report I read yesterday says that The Intercept received the document anonymously thru the mail, postmarked from Augusta, Georgia.
Snail Mail.


Anyone can read that affidavit at the end of this piece by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-news/augusta-contractor-charged-with-mishandling-top-secret-materials/VFqwwNvxTBe7w2BxkQaWNM/

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
14. I read yesterday that she had her name legally changed
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jun 2017

So of course that's what appears on the affidavit.

Will try to find it again, but I'm not having much luck given the number of Google hits now.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
21. Yeah, I saw it yesterday too, but not at any verifiable source
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jun 2017

Reddit had it, and all of the wing-nut-conservative-cave-type sites were abuzz about how only a mentally ill person would voluntarily choose to be called "Reality" and make it legal. That gave me a chuckle cause I was thinking being named "Sara Leigh" could be considered equally annoying, but maybe not for a woman so young (is Sara Lee even still in business?).

Living clear up here in the northwest corner of Washington, the home of many remnants of both the Love Family and the Rainbow Family, it's not odd at all to bump into younger people bearing names like "Humble", "Amity", "Patience", "Trust", "Genuine", "Truth", "Harmony", and, one which I thought was especially stigmatizing for a child, "Beautiful"...I actually attempted to dissuade the mother from bestowing such a moniker on her little newborn, but she, herself, was named "Share" so somewhere there's a thirty-something woman probably still trying to live up to her name (I lost touch with her mom years ago, but they were a nice family). And I am still acquainted with a fellow named Placid, but he chose it for himself and eventually made the change legal, long after the Love Family had disbanded.

Anyway, I expect we'll most likely be learning every thing there is to know about Ms Winner in the coming months, or else, she'll fast drop off the radar as the hearings and the numerous investigations pick up steam and her little escapade is forgotten and left behind in the dust.

But I do like her name. It's original, that's for sure!







 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. I hate when that happens
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jun 2017

But since two other sources have said that she used the pseudonym "Sara" on social media, then you might have read something by someone who, like all the rest of us, thought "Reality Winner? No way."

I don't doubt that you may have read something to the effect that she changed her name, and perhaps the other publications have it backwards. Shit happens.

Before long, of course, we'll meet the parents, high school classmates, neighbors down the street, and so on.

But, dang, what a great name, eh?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Yeah, I wasn't needling you to "win" some sort of argument
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jun 2017

I'm sure it will get sorted either way. It would be interesting to hear from the parents as to the choice of name or, if she had changed it herself, what was the thinking. Some people like to have interesting names, and some people have them inflicted upon them by "cool parents".
 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
10. When this takes down Trump, Reality Winner will be championed for generations!
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 02:36 PM
Jun 2017

This is more important than people may know. By letting herself be arrested, Winner knew that she was giving herself up like Chelsea Manning, but with not just the smoking gun but a dead corpse of rock-solid evidence of Trump's treasonous crime, Reality Winner will take her place in the Progressive Hall of Fame...at least in MY book!

Igel

(35,320 posts)
11. She was foolish.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jun 2017

And violated an oath she took after Trump was elected to protect the classified information she would be given access to. That makes her a liar. In other words, she agreed to work for somebody she wanted to undermine.

Reality is foolish and untrustworthy. And that's a Winner?


She probably wanted to make a personal statement. Validate herself, make herself seem important. Felt disempowered, isolated. IN another setting, she'd blow herself up. But in the end she became a self-styled patriotic mole ... for the Russians. I assume that the Russians didn't know that anybody in the government knew about that particular incident. So congratulations are in order: Just like the NYT told them that the intelligence over the ISIS undercover agent was from an Israeli source because of people who wanted to make Trump look bad, so the NYT told them "we" knew about this. They're making the FSB and GRU superfluous. "Gospodin Putin, here next intelligence report on most recent top secret information. We expanding base of operatives in United States. This time three sources we used, New Yorksky Times, Washingtonsky Post, and The Intercept. They defend Russian public's right to know."

The irony is palpable. And yet this is the end result of the kind of polarization we've managed to produce.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. The essential facts of this report were already in a Senate summary, though
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jun 2017

...and likely has been available to the Senate, as per the comments made by Mark Warner today.

Senate Dems have known this and more.

So I'm not too clear on what she has brought to the table here.

As Igel points out, there are always people with "principles". Those principles may not be yours or mine.

There is an active war going on. It's not like the Russians have "quit" doing cyber ops, and we may not want them to know the full extent of what we know at this point in time.
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