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HAB911

(8,904 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:23 PM Jun 2017

boycotting the NFL because of its blatant bigotry and anti-blackness

I love sports. Since I was a young boy, they've been one of the greatest passions of my life. For many years, my dream was to be a general manager of a professional sports team. I still think about it actually and sometimes allow my mind to drift to what my life would look like if I still went that route. The stance I am taking today did not come easily. It's heartbreaking, actually.

I'm an NFL fan. I watch the draft. I pay extra for the season pass on television so I can watch every single game. I follow the stats and standings and rankings religiously. It's an escape for me. Day in and day out, as I fight against injustice, watching a great game allows me to decompress from the stress of the cases I'm working on or writing about. I'm 37 years old and literally cannot remember a year in my life where I have not been a sports junkie.

But I won't be watching the NFL this year. I can't, in good conscience, support this league, with many of its pro-Trump owners, as it blacklists my friend and brother Colin Kaepernick for taking a silent, peaceful stance against injustice and police brutality in America. It's disgusting and has absolutely nothing to do with football and everything to do with penalizing a brilliant young man for the principled stance he took last season.

I did not want to make this decision, but it became inevitable when the Seattle Seahawks, after flying Kaepernick across country to meet with the team, instead decided to sign Austin Davis as their backup quarterback. It's a disgrace. I sincerely want to apologize for how hard I am about to go against Austin Davis, because it's great that he got the job, but the man is a scrub.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/king-boycotting-nfl-anti-blackness-article-1.3225720

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boycotting the NFL because of its blatant bigotry and anti-blackness (Original Post) HAB911 Jun 2017 OP
Agreed--the nfl treats its players like shit Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #1
And they treat the cheerleaders even worse. n/t MindPilot Jun 2017 #3
I've never been a big sports fan, but I kind of like watching football. MindPilot Jun 2017 #2
Kaepernick couldn't even be bothered to vote NobodyHere Jun 2017 #4
That's because he thinks Hilary is a "proven liar". Dr. Strange Jun 2017 #5
Vote third party then NobodyHere Jun 2017 #7
+1 NCTraveler Jun 2017 #9
Maybe it was a salary cap thing ??? JoeStuckInOH Jun 2017 #6
It used to be the case that drugs were longer suspensions mythology Jun 2017 #8
It's not third strike though... no 3rd test was taken/failed. JoeStuckInOH Jun 2017 #13
That counts as a failed test as is spelled out in the agreement between the NFL and NFLPA mythology Jun 2017 #20
Sources claim that Kap will work for anything NobodyHere Jun 2017 #10
Colin Kaepernick been kind of a scrub, though so it's less a surprise than people think. Johonny Jun 2017 #11
I don't know that the owners are "pro-Trump" MichMary Jun 2017 #12
Not sure how many controversial players the NFL needs jmowreader Jun 2017 #14
Colin Kaepernick was a head case long before his political activism... Brother Buzz Jun 2017 #15
Seahawks fan here... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #16
He's done some good things behind the scenes as well. jalan48 Jun 2017 #17
Shaun King is ridiculous oberliner Jun 2017 #18
I feel conflicted trentwestcott Jun 2017 #19
Right... King also promised to boycott the Dem party Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #21
What Muellers NFL probe means for Trump HAB911 Jun 2017 #22

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
1. Agreed--the nfl treats its players like shit
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jun 2017

I have gradually stopped watching games. Sundays are a great day to go to the gym and work on my own fitness.

My biggest problem with the nfl is the information about concussions that they suppressed and the non-guaranted contracts for players basically risking their lives.

And over the years the football is just not that great.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
2. I've never been a big sports fan, but I kind of like watching football.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:11 PM
Jun 2017

So yeah, everything the OP said, plus the fact that the recent exit of the Chargers from San Diego has clearly demonstrated that the NFL couldn't give less of a fuck about the fans or their city.

I have another dilemma; one of my most prized possessions is a football Peyton Manning signed for a me a few years ago when he was with the Colts. The Broncos are my team, so it became even more valuable to me.

Now my (former) idol, Peyton, is hanging with *45 and playing golf. Shit!

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
6. Maybe it was a salary cap thing ???
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jun 2017

Personally, I find the Josh Gordon situation MUCH more infuriating.

Declines to take a drug test last year to come off suspension and instead checks into rehab (so technically did NOT fail a drug test). Then they decline his petition for readmission this year. But domestic abusers and wife beaters barely miss a game or two for their off-field antics.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. It used to be the case that drugs were longer suspensions
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jun 2017

But now a first domestic violence offense is a 6 game suspension and a year minimum on the second with the player having to apply for reinstatement.

Josh Gordon is on his third strike for recreational drugs which is the same punishment as a second domestic violence offense. You can argue that the NFL shouldn't be suspending for recreational drugs, but what sort of moron fails what is effectively an announced drug test? Recreational drug testing in the NFL occurs between the middle of April through early August. Pass one test and they aren't tested again that year (unless the player is already in the NFL's drug program).

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
13. It's not third strike though... no 3rd test was taken/failed.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jun 2017

He opted not to take the test and checked into a center.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
20. That counts as a failed test as is spelled out in the agreement between the NFL and NFLPA
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:35 PM
Jun 2017

This is clearly spelled out. It's not like it came as a surprise to Gordon.

The fact that he refused the test and checked into rehab is a pretty solid indicator he would have failed. Gordon knew what the rules were, and opted to refuse to comply. Not because he was making a point about the stupidity of rules on marijuana (and it is stupid), but because he won't stop smoking pot even though it cost him millions of dollars. I don't have a lot of sympathy.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
10. Sources claim that Kap will work for anything
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:54 PM
Jun 2017

They may be wrong.

I think everyone knows that Kap isn't being signed because of the baggage he brings with him, right or wrong.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
11. Colin Kaepernick been kind of a scrub, though so it's less a surprise than people think.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:01 PM
Jun 2017
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

Football outsiders had him as the 28th, 35th, and 30th valued QB the past three seasons. Granted the 49ners have been a mess and that's hurt his value, but Colin's play has been replacement level or below for a while now. When you're at replacement level and also become a headlines generator that sported a sizable salary, it's not a surprise he's having trouble landing a spot. Still he has to be among the 64 best QBs out there, so likely he's in the league next season...eventually.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
12. I don't know that the owners are "pro-Trump"
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jun 2017

so much as they are "pro-$$$." They are very afraid of losing revenue over someone as controversial as Colin made himself. We may see it as a principled stand, but the people who buy the tickets were offended. To the owners, he wasn't worth what it was going to cost them. I have read comments after multiple articles on this, and I was amazed how many people said that if the Seahawks picked up Colin Kaepernick they would never watch the Seahawks again. Right or wrong, that was what the fan base felt.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
14. Not sure how many controversial players the NFL needs
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jun 2017

Coach Carroll's official reason for not signing Kaepernick was, "Colin is a starting quarterback and we already have one."

They also have a designated drama queen in Richard Sherman.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
15. Colin Kaepernick was a head case long before his political activism...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jun 2017

became a distraction. The front office should have listened to me and dumped the loser in 2015.

This forty-Niner fan will enjoy watching my team lose without Kaepernick's help.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
16. Seahawks fan here...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jun 2017

I watched all of the angst and concern about signing Kaep with a bit of detached bemusement. He was a QB of a rival team, so there is some residual animus there, and I haven't seen the final deal on what money was discussed. I have no idea if the political side had much to do with this, but yeah, I heard numerous fans make that silly declaration that if the team signed Kaep they'd stop watching. I generally take such declarations with a huge grain of salt myself. There's so much hyperbole on the internet, one can't take things like that literally.

I always stood up for Kaep's right to protest. Frankly, he was pretty low key about it. It took several games for anybody to notice IIRC. Then people started with all the "patriotic" bullshit, and I kind of tuned it out.

Seattle had a rookie backup QB last season, and when the starter got hurt there was legit concern about letting the kid get in there. As it worked out, Wilson the starter went the Favre route and didn't miss any games. He probably should have, but this year they want more experience back there. I'm not that big of a fan of Kaep, partly because of the team rivalry thing, but also because I saw how our Defense could rattle him and force him into making mistakes. He had a couple of good years, but lately not so much.

I agree that he is probably being treated unfairly, but I'm not going to stop watching football over the politics of the players and owners. Hell, players are making 6 figures and up. Many, many of them are Repubs, just because they're making shit loads of money. Rich folks tend to lean right.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
17. He's done some good things behind the scenes as well.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jun 2017

With all the money he makes he could simply be enjoying the good life but he has chosen to risk his career for something he believes in. Also, I think he is a good role model for young men.

http://www.colorlines.com/articles/icymi-oakland-football-players-lie-backs-while-colin-kaepernick-kneels-during-anthem

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Shaun King is ridiculous
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jun 2017

Lots of decent former starting QB's have a hard time getting signed as a backup - especially when their salary demands are as high as Colin K's probably are.

The Seahawks have a great starting QB (who happens to be African-American) and they have lots of high priced players (most of whom happen to be African-American) so it makes sense to sign an inferior but cheaper backup QB for next to no money (in NFL terms).

 

trentwestcott

(83 posts)
19. I feel conflicted
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jun 2017

On the one hand, concussions and the plantation mentality of owners.

On the other, black empowerment by way of multimillion dollar salaries and increased visibility for people like Colin Kapernick. If he was working at an insurance company or a factory we'd never know him, and schoolkids would've never asked their parents what all the hype was about.

I'll split the difference and watch the games that are on TV but stop going to games in person, and when I get that email from the team asking me why I haven't bought tickets in a while I'll let them know what my dilemma is.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. Right... King also promised to boycott the Dem party
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:52 PM
Jun 2017

and take all the Bernie supporters and create his own glorious third party to usher in a new liberal utopia...

Like all things, I'll believe it when I see it.

HAB911

(8,904 posts)
22. What Muellers NFL probe means for Trump
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:29 AM
Jun 2017

Critics say former FBI director let Commissioner Roger Goodell off the hook in his domestic violence investigation.

When Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel for the Justice Department’s Trump-Russia investigation, people across the political spectrum cheered that the no-nonsense former FBI director would be aggressive and thorough, and take as long as he needs to follow the facts wherever they take him.

A POLITICO examination of Mueller’s other high-profile investigation since leaving the FBI, however, suggests that many of the people who had similar hopes in that case came away disappointed.

In what the National Football League said would be a completely independent investigation to uncover “the truth,” Mueller was hired in September 2014 to determine whether Commissioner Roger Goodell and other league officials mishandled the league’s response to an incident in which star Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice knocked unconscious his then-fiancee, and then engaged in a cover-up.

Mueller and his team worked quickly but exhaustively for four months to produce a 96-page report that essentially cleared the NFL of intentional wrongdoing. In doing so, they helped defuse a public relations nightmare for America’s most popular and profitable league and possibly saved Goodell’s job.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/07/mueller-nfl-probe-rice-goodell-239216

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