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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"We'd better get used to nature's ferocious new face."
Timothy Egan in a NY Times Op-Ed: The Fires This Time
So it went the first 10 days of summer, another extraordinary chapter in a weather year of living dangerously. At one point, 113 million Americans were under an extreme heat advisory. It was 109 degrees in Nashville, 104 in Washington, D.C., and much of the West was aflame.
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If recent history is a guide, it will all be soon forgotten and dismissed. Amnesia, in regard to unpleasant science, is the guiding principle for a political party that has an even chance of winning everything that matters this year.
He reminds us that this past winter & spring were the warmest on record. This June, 3,215 new daily high temperature records were broken.
Summer is barely two weeks old and two-thirds of the country is in the grip of a severe drought. More crops will die. More forests will burn. More power brokers will become familiar with the consequences of a derecho. It sounds biblical, but smart scientists have been predicting this very cycle.
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In March, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned in a special report of "unprecedented extreme weather and climate events" to come. The events are here, though the skeptics now running the Republican Party deny the obvious, in large part because they are paid to deny the obvious.
The rest of this excellent op-ed is at the NY Times.
Link to the IPCC report (PDF): MANAGING THE RISKS OF EXTREME EVENTS AND DISASTERS TO ADVANCE CLIMATE CHANGE ADAPTATION
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Good article, K&R.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)"Well, Al Gore, where's your global warming now"
But people who have been personally affected by these drastic climate changes, won't be laughing along with them. And every year more and more Americans will be personally affected. And eventually they won't be able to hide the reality and the giggling will stop.
Hope it won't be too late.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)tipping point has passed.
One example:
"Hansen believes that point already has been reached, now with about 400 parts per million of carbon dioxide in Earths atmosphere.
He has a lower tipping point of 350 ppm, where global warming is certain, and we are beyond that.
Other experts place the tipping point at 450 ppm, beyond which no actions taken by humans will prevent permanent and increasing global warming until all life on Earth is severely threatened, if not destroyed.
A bombshell report by the International Energy Agency in late 2011 notes that without positive action now,
by 2017 all carbon dioxide emissions will be locked-in by existing power plants, factories and vehicles.
Rising fossil energy use will lead to irreversible and potentially catastrophic climate change, the report noted."
http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/local-view-tipping-points-and-climate-change/article_1781c6bc-b6f4-5f41-9504-f7694164de3f.html
Just one of many many articles about the tipping point. Lots of good ones can be found in the Environment and Energy group here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1127
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...that when the giggling stops and the reality is undeniable--that the Republicans will deny EVER saying that global warming wasn't real. They'll insist that the science wasn't unanimous before the shit hit the fan. They'll say that they never denied that changes weren't happening.
Watch and see.
I also believe that very soon (within the next 5-10 years) the horrendous weather will force Republicans to do and say something that doesn't make them look like complete idiots when the seas rise, coastal properties and businesses are affected and extreme weather is the norm.
They'll concede that climate change is upon us--but it's not man made--and that there is no need for us to stop fracking or digging for oil and no need to invest in solar and wind. They'll continue to toe the line for the oil industry as long as possible. Those companies have paid our politicians handsomely for their denials.
Just look at how our politicians stand back and allow Fukushima to worsen. That situation is worse than Chernobyl, yet our politicians won't dare take a stand or speak the truth. Their slavemasters in nuclear energy have wussified our elected officials.
All of this just makes me sick. While so many of us are trying to get these bastards to do the right thing--they hunker down, licking the boots of these greedy energy CEOs. It blows the mind!
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)somehow. And maybe Obama, too, just for good measure.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Republicans . . . Libertarians . . . hypocrisy . . . Never!!!
tpsbmam
(3,927 posts)when we had our second 12 inch snowfall in the NC mountains (Asheville area) a couple of winters ago. He was in my driveway with another neighbor when he made that inane comment. I resisted the temptation to tell him how stupid he looked saying that and simply said "this is exactly what the scientists said would happen -- weather extremes." Hey, they were shoveling me out at the time, I had to be nice!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)the wildfires will just be allowed to run amok. The earthquake damage will be watched and nobody will rush to save or repair or salvage. The hurricane destruction will simply leave an empty place where towns once stood.
There will simply be too many, too often and we will have run out of resources to do anything much to address them all.
Scary times ahead.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's God punishing America for electing Obama.
One ended up pointing out on the day Obamacare passed the Washington Monument cracked from a hurricane.
These people really believe God brings the rain and causes the sun to rise every morning.
I half expect to hear of a mass prayer for mercy and cooler weather with a promise to get that abomination out of the White House.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)for not supporting Obamacare and acting like complete idiots towards the gift he has bestowed upon this land and the people.
And it never occurs to them that a god that punishes people for the choices they make didn't really give out free will in the first place - their raison d'etre as to why God lets evil happen despite his power to stop it. If he keeps stepping in to manipulate the situation with contrived punishments, then he's not really allowing natural consequences to occur. His gift of "free will" was just bullshit all along and he never really meant it. Their whole line of thinking turns their god into the persona of a totalitarian jerk.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Do you forget the PRIDE they have in calling themselves "God Fearing"?
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)COLUMBUS, Ohio One day in 1991, high in the thin, crystalline air of the Peruvian Andes, Lonnie G. Thompson saw that the worlds largest tropical ice cap was starting to melt. It was the moment he realized that his lifes work had suddenly become a race.
Temperature Rising
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The discovery meant other ice caps were likely to melt, too, and the tales of past climate that they contained could disappear before scientists had a chance to learn from them.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Ghost of Huey Long
(322 posts)Besides the obvious of stopping what we are already doing to cause this, like pollution, like signing on to the Kyoto agreements and not doing business with any country that does not follow environmental regulations.
If Al Gore still cares about the environment, he should be rallying against free trade agreements. This treasonous legislation which he promoted resulted in not only the loss of millions of jobs(but record profits for the 'job creators'), it is the reason almost all of our products are now created in countries with no environmental regulations. As if all the pollution is China is just going to cause global warming in China?
Why aren't the billionaires who are concerned about this, instead of giving out vaccines, they could be funding a massive tree planting campaign. Instead of giving vaccines to Africans, they could bring water....water that could then be used to plant massive amounts of vegetation. WE could be planing trees everywhere, plants everywhere, gardens on every rooftop.
Cows can be put in large barns to harvest the methane rather than release it into the atmosphere, as they have been doing in South America for 20 years. Scientists have developed algae that rapidly eats CO2 and produces Oxygen. Wind and Solar are just getting started. Then their is tidal power, why haven't we all been harnessing the power of the ocean, what could be more powerful?
Imagine if we put our collective intelligence to work to fix our problems, if we put our treasury into building things rather than destroying....
WE have the resources to fix this, we have the solutions... it is just stupid rich people only concerned with hoarding their wealth are getting in the way of every good decision we could be making for humanity right now.