And give up living like a fucking king on a minimum wage job?

I hear Republicans bitching all the time about the slackers in society. Even when they are the slackers.

A teabagger idiot called me a lazy parasite. When I pointed out that I cannot work at fast-paced jobs because of issues with autistic sensory overload that poster started spouting all the usual "up-by-your-bootstraps" crap.

I mean, it is physically impossible to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps - no matter how hard you pull.

not all that much about it in the Bible.

Obvious troll is trolling poorly.

"Disability" is a legal term of art. Of course even a quadriplegic can sell pencils on a street corner for pennies a day, as people might have done before the social security laws were enacted. But our laws were designed to take us out of the unenlightened barbarism of days gone by when the poor often lived like animals. According to the Social Security Administration:

"...For adults, the Social Security law defines disability as the "inability to engage in any substantial gainful activity (SGA) by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than 12 months. ..."

The determination of someone's disability is made according to strict procedures:

"A determination as to whether a claimant is disabled as defined in the law is made for SSA by a team, composed of a physician/psychologist and a disability examiner, working in the disability determination services (DDS) of the State in which the claimant lives. Typically, the physician or psychologist in the DDS maintains a private practice in addition to serving as a member of the team responsible for making the disability determination."

Are you a medical doctor capable of determining if the poster is unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity as a result of physical/medical impairment? Have you examined this particular poster? Are you prepared to defend your medical determination that because the poster can move one finger across a keyboard that he is able to engage in any SUBSTANTIAL gainful activity? Or do you take issue with the concept of disability itself? Do you respect the law?

http://ssa.gov/disability/professionals/answers-pub042.htm

Obama called it social Darwinism for a reason.

My bi-polar son had to apply 3 times before getting approval,
and then the lawyers took about 1/3 of his back-pay: i.e.
once someone FINALLY IS approved, they get paid the arrears
that they would have gotten had they been approved in the
first place.

Those are 2 different programs, with different eligibility requirements and different payments.

Soc. Sec. Disability ( SSDI) is for those who have worked long enough to qualify, which is usually determeind by employed hours per quarter.
Soc. Sec. Dis. is operated by the Fed. Gov't. It has rules about what types of disability and what extent of disability it will cover.
Once you qualify, it pays back to 18 months before you applied.
Usually Soc.Sec. Dis. pays more than SSI.
People on Soc. Sec. Dis. become eligible for Medicare, a Federal medical insurance program, after a certain time on the program.

SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is operated by the state, which usually pays for about 20% of it, the Feds pay the rest. It is the state who makes the determination of disability, tho they have to follow Fed. guidelines.
It is for people who are not eligible for Soc. Sec. Dis...that is. people who have not worked enough to pay into the Seoc. Sec. system.
People on SSI become eligible for Medicaid, a state medical insurance program.

It is more likely that the Repugs are talking trash about the SSI program, since that is a state budget issue.

both according to your info and info I found here,
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/245/kw/are%20SSI%20and%20Social%20Security%20Disability%20the%20same%3F/session/L3RpbWUvMTM0MTg3MjQ2NC9zaWQvQ0YybHFLKms%3D

It takes fucking nine months to get a court date after you're rejected. Can you tell I'm a little bitter here? I paid my damn SS taxes and I deserve to get it back. The system sucks.

I have a permanent and documented disability - I got approved back in 2001 on my first try. Even a few months ago, I got sent a letter letting me know that they're cancelling the doctor appointment because they determined that nothing has changed. I am profoundly deaf, and it gets worse, not better.

My wife is also on disability for her deafness, plus she has RP (Usher's Syndrome) that's slowly progressing towards to the worse.

you have to have a disability that keeps you from working. With the definition of "disabled" being unable to work, there an incentive to maintain that status when ongoing medical care is required.
That is one problem that I think will be at least somewhat alleviated when all of the features of Obamacare go into effect. It will be very liberating to many folks who have disabilities and also have the capacity to work with some supports and guaranteed medical coverage.

Then, the complaint will be that those defectives are taking our jobs.

Something like 80k jobs were created in June.

Something like 85k went on disability--of whatever kind--in June.

I think it's ridiculous when that happens. Even if it takes a long time to go on disability, it's also likely that of the 85k are people who would have probably worked if they could have. Yes, most people who go on disability do so when they really can't work. But for many "can't" is more subjective. You're in pain: Can you work? Depends on the job, the level of pain, and how badly you want to work.

My SIL went on disability years ago--and had good reasons to do so. However, she had the same health problems 6 and 12 months before she applied for disability. What prompted her to apply when she did? She worked for a bank as an assistant manager; the bank was being taken over and the last merger led to the whole-sale bagging of bank managers. She said that had she stayed, it was almost for sure she'd have lost her job. She was glad she worked with the pain and numbness; she was glad she applied for disability when she did. But she also said that if there wasn't the merger, she'd have worked longer--the problem wasn't getting any worse, and it wasn't like it would be lessened at home. The first few years after going on disability she used the spare time she suddenly had volunteering for her church 10-15 hours a week and visiting the sick, as well as taking some community college classes: In her words, society was paying her to do nothing, she'd repay society for as long as she could.

In any event, what started at a jab at the weakness of the job market morphed to misplaced criticism of those involved.

You pay for it every day you work,its yours if you need it.

As demented and sadistic as it is the GOP maintains that anyone not working is a slacker and a drain on the system. The poor, the vulnerable and the disabled as well as public workers caused the recession and bankrupted everyone. The media never challenges their lies on the spot.

Their code is economic eugenics. Only the fit, the clever, the sly and the thieving are meant to survive in this economy. That means the rich. WE ARE IN A CIVIL WAR WITH THESE PEOPLE FOR THE HEART OF THIS COUNTRY. We must realize they will never give up until they have control and will use the "iron fist" to get their way.

Meanwhile the uber rich and the multinational corporations are the real slackers. The real drain is Wall Street and the rich who want ALL THE MONEY. And they fund the GOP.