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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts) Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:01 PM Jun 2017

Let's not forget that Nixon was taken down by an "uh huh."

The so-called "smoking gun" tape was a recording of H.R. Haldeman explaining how they could get the CIA to get the FBI to drop the investigation into the Watergate burglary. All Nixon said was "uh huh," indicating his agreement. And that was enough. I'm bringing this up because the GOPers keep insisting that Trump didn't, in so many words, *demand* that Comey drop the Flynn investigation. Given the circumstances, Comey interpreted Trump's words as a command ("Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?&quot . In the same vein, Nixon didn't have to say "Yes, let's do that" to be charged with obstruction of justice in the draft articles of impeachment.

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Let's not forget that Nixon was taken down by an "uh huh." (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 OP

at no point did donnie say "i'm a democrat", so it's all ok. unblock Jun 2017 #1

You are correct it was the tapes that brought Nixon down book_worm Jun 2017 #2

the problem is that presupposes that the GOP of today has the moral character... Thomas Hurt Jun 2017 #3

Plus, Trump's base of deplorables are still behind him. muntrv Jun 2017 #4

Nixon had a hard core of support, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #6

aw, come on!! subtlety and nuance are beyond the comprehension of orange madman's niyad Jun 2017 #5

unblock

(52,253 posts)

1. at no point did donnie say "i'm a democrat", so it's all ok.

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Original post)

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:03 PM

Jun 2017

that's the one thing he could that might give his defenders pause.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)

2. You are correct it was the tapes that brought Nixon down

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Original post)

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:06 PM

Jun 2017

had they not come out he probably would have survived. As dramatic as this Comey testimony is unless there is a tape that the Trump WH has to produce it's probable it's his word vs. Comey's. My guess is that if Trump had a tape that he, unlike Nixon, would destroy them.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)

3. the problem is that presupposes that the GOP of today has the moral character...

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Original post)

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:07 PM

Jun 2017

of the GOP then. IMO, they don't and don't want the embarrassment of a redux of obstruction and corruption to harm their majority.

We already knew that Trump is an inveterate liar and he has tried to interfere in the investigation........but I don't think the Congressional GOP caucus really cares.

I won't until articles of impeachment are signed off by the GOP.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)

4. Plus, Trump's base of deplorables are still behind him.

Reply to Thomas Hurt (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:24 PM

Jun 2017

Not enough Trumpgrets.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)

6. Nixon had a hard core of support, too.

Reply to muntrv (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:33 PM

Jun 2017

Even at the time of his resignation he still had about 26%. Trump has 34%. There may be still more slippage but there will always be plenty of supporting deplorables.

Oddly, though, after Nixon resigned it got to be pretty hard to find people who'd admit to having voted for him.

niyad

(113,348 posts)

5. aw, come on!! subtlety and nuance are beyond the comprehension of orange madman's

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Original post)

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:28 PM

Jun 2017

loyalists. and because that is true, they figure it is true for the rest of us, as well.

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