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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:48 PM Jun 2017

Trump is playing chess with the Senate investigation, in my opinion.

He is focusing on the Atty-General position as the move to checkmate the investigation.

His plan is to fire Jeff Sessions or ask for his resignation, opening the way for a new Attorney General that will do his bidding. That would be someone like Chris Christie.

His nomination of a new FBI Director is nothing more than a diversion, since the FBI Director answers to the Atty-General.

If the Attorney-General fires the Special Prosecutor Mueller, the President could then argue that the decision was in the proper authority of the Attorney-General. The focus and blame would then turn to the new Attorney-General and away from Donald Trump.

Trump is two or three moves ahead of the investigators, in my opinion.

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Trump is playing chess with the Senate investigation, in my opinion. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2017 OP
Trump is not an evil genius...he is a buffoon. Moostache Jun 2017 #1
Mueller will not be fired. It's just not going to happen. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #2
Ask archibald cox about that beachbum bob Jun 2017 #4
The firing has already happened. Didn't you notice? PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #6
Do I really need to tell you cox was the special prosecutor fired by Nixon? beachbum bob Jun 2017 #14
Do I really need to tell you what happened to Nixon after that? regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #55
I don't doubt Trump would hesitate to have someone else do his dirty work. kentuck Jun 2017 #5
He is not a dictator yet. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #8
His "chess" is checkers, if even that. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #3
More like locusts, volstork Jun 2017 #7
Or maybe... True Dough Jun 2017 #9
Twister! leftstreet Jun 2017 #29
. jberryhill Jun 2017 #42
I was headed to the bottom of the thread to say shooting marbles Samantha Jun 2017 #60
If he did this BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #10
Confirmed by a "Republican" Senate. kentuck Jun 2017 #11
Sessions only barely got confirmed BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #22
Trump totally lacks the intellectual ability to play chess. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2017 #12
He doesn't escape paying taxes for 20 years... kentuck Jun 2017 #13
I didn't say he's a dunce. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2017 #17
He couldn't recognize a chess board RainCaster Jun 2017 #20
If a dunce can hire a good accountant, them yes... he may easily escape paying taxes. LanternWaste Jun 2017 #23
That's money not intelligence ... Kids can spend money YCHDT Jun 2017 #26
Even a right moron can hire accountants and lawyers. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #32
Not chess but crayons RainCaster Jun 2017 #15
Big mistake to underestimate... kentuck Jun 2017 #19
Obama played Chess. This one plays Checkers (and poorly). eom IllinoisBirdWatcher Jun 2017 #16
Your faith in his mental acuity and strategic oversight is admirable LanternWaste Jun 2017 #18
We should not assume that it is about "mental acuity and strategic oversight"... kentuck Jun 2017 #25
. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #21
You have got to be kidding! Kaleva Jun 2017 #24
Yes. kentuck Jun 2017 #27
While the house kills Dodd Frank and the Senate kills ACA Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #28
That's more 'go fish' than 'chess' C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #30
SMH/NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #31
Trump couldn't beat my cat at checkers. A-Schwarzenegger Jun 2017 #33
Trump Playing Checkers: ret5hd Jun 2017 #34
Not to nitpick.. SQUEE Jun 2017 #56
It is within his powers to ultimately kill the investigation. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #35
He thinks of temporary advantages... kentuck Jun 2017 #38
If you think of temporary advantage you are by nature not a strategic thinker. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #45
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Foamfollower Jun 2017 #36
Can he kill the investigation ? * Yes DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #37
Would the Senate approve Chris Christie? kentuck Jun 2017 #39
No. He's toxic. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #40
In my opinion, nothing is toxic to the Republican Party kentuck Jun 2017 #44
Can the GOP kill the investigations ? Yes. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #48
Surely you jest ... GeorgeGist Jun 2017 #41
You're giving Trump way too much credit. His only advantage at this point is the ability to Vinca Jun 2017 #43
He plays the Republicans like yo-yos... kentuck Jun 2017 #46
Republicans are a mystery. If Trump goes down, they go down. Their blind loyalty is strange. Vinca Jun 2017 #51
My thoughts exactly. I think some of them know this, janx Jun 2017 #54
They are in a Catch-22... kentuck Jun 2017 #58
you're kidding right. n/t. okieinpain Jun 2017 #47
He's not smart enough to play chess Thrill Jun 2017 #49
You had me at "Trump is playing Chess"! Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #50
Trump playing chess lol I don't think so stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #52
If trump is playing chess... Salviati Jun 2017 #53
Trump playing chess is like dogs playing poker. kwassa Jun 2017 #57
Trump doesn't get beyond tic-tac-toe. GaYellowDawg Jun 2017 #59
More like "pull my finger". n/t miyazaki Jun 2017 #61
LOL - I think the thought he leftynyc Jun 2017 #62

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. Trump is not an evil genius...he is a buffoon.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jun 2017

The only moves he is ahead of anyone is in the ice cream scoop distribution...

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. Do I really need to tell you cox was the special prosecutor fired by Nixon?
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jun 2017

Mueller has not been fired yet

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
5. I don't doubt Trump would hesitate to have someone else do his dirty work.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jun 2017

Last edited Thu Jun 8, 2017, 02:20 PM - Edit history (1)

If it feels it is getting out of control, he will fire Mueller in a New York second, in my opinion. I would not underestimate his capacity for manipulation.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
60. I was headed to the bottom of the thread to say shooting marbles
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 02:22 PM
Jun 2017

but of course he might be just shooting darts. But chess? I don't think so.

Sam

wait a minute: delete "darts" and insert "spitballs." That will do it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,115 posts)
10. If he did this
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jun 2017

whoever he picks would STILL have to be confirmed by the Senate - now with the onus that the person would be threatened with a "loyalty oath". He can't just add a new person in there on his own however he wants.

He is playing tiddly winks and his staff are playing marbles trying to knock their colleagues out of the circle.

BumRushDaShow

(129,115 posts)
22. Sessions only barely got confirmed
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jun 2017

and mainly because he used to be their colleague. Now you have this "loyalty" thing out there so whoever is nominated is going to have rough going.

If Sessions does go away, they may try McCabe in there since he has lasted this long as acting and would be available since a nominee for FBI has been submitted.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
12. Trump totally lacks the intellectual ability to play chess.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jun 2017

Probably can't play checkers very well, either.

Keep in mind that to him everything is a business deal. So any looking or planning ahead he's doing is in the nature of "How do I make this the best deal for me?"

In a way, his worst move was that he didn't find some quasi-legal way to keep Comey from testifying in the open. He's probably so convinced that it's Comey who's lying, or that the Republicans would shut him (Comey) down or reveal that he's making things up. Because that's what Donald does. Just makes up things.

Trump also likes like the four year old who denies he got into the cookie jar, even though he has cookie crumbs all over his face and he's still holding a half-eaten one behind his back.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
13. He doesn't escape paying taxes for 20 years...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:00 PM
Jun 2017

..and escapes the law for money-laundering with the Russians, by being a dunce.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
17. I didn't say he's a dunce.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jun 2017

And I do recall that one of his tax preparers told him that he was skirting the edge of illegality on some of his tax deductions.

Plus, he's not the ones filling out the forms. He pays people big bucks to do that for him.

In that regard (meaning income taxes), I've seen it suggested that all members of Congress should have to fill out their own tax forms every year. They'd be allowed to phone the IRS help line, but no trained tax preparer. Just put them all in a room together on April 1st, and let them go at it.

We'd get a more simplified tax code rather quickly, I suspect.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. If a dunce can hire a good accountant, them yes... he may easily escape paying taxes.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jun 2017

If a dunce can hire a good accountant, them yes... he may easily escape paying taxes.

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
15. Not chess but crayons
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jun 2017

The Orange Shit-stain in Chief can tweet all he likes, and the GOP can deflect as much as they like. However, the American Public has seen what the GOP is made of now, and it belongs in a sewer.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. Your faith in his mental acuity and strategic oversight is admirable
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:05 PM
Jun 2017

Your faith in his mental acuity and strategic oversight is admirable, but I think, rather misplaced.

I've seen no evidence that contradicts his consistency acts of administrative buffoonery and legal ignorance to anything resembling strategy... and speculation is simply not evidence.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
25. We should not assume that it is about "mental acuity and strategic oversight"...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jun 2017

When his tactics are much more evil and contrived.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
24. You have got to be kidding!
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:07 PM
Jun 2017

Trump's in this mess because of his own stupidity, ignorance, and bullheadiness. His agenda is tied up in knots and his administration is a dysfunctional mess. Yet you seem to claiming he is playing 3 dimensional chess while everyone is playing checkers.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
28. While the house kills Dodd Frank and the Senate kills ACA
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jun 2017

Putin wants us to start killing each other, we have to not do that, but that is his plan.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
35. It is within his powers to ultimately kill the investigation.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jun 2017

He fires Sessions and Sessions' replacement fires Mueller.

How is it to his benefit?

He wastes political capital and a president with approval rating in the mid to high thirties doesn't have much of it to waste.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
38. He thinks of temporary advantages...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jun 2017

...and believes he can manipulate whatever issues might arise. But, by then, the damage is already done.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
45. If you think of temporary advantage you are by nature not a strategic thinker.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jun 2017

A strategic thinker would say if I do this how do other reacts and how do I react to their reactions.

Firing Mueller would only invite more scrutiny.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
37. Can he kill the investigation ? * Yes
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jun 2017

Would it inure to his benefit?

No.



* And I'm not even sure he could even get a GOP Senate to approve a Trump lackey for A G who would fire Mueller to kill the investigation.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
40. No. He's toxic.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jun 2017

And the nominee for AG is going to be asked if he or she is going to interfere with the special counsel. What does that nominee say?

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
44. In my opinion, nothing is toxic to the Republican Party
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jun 2017

What will the AG nominee say? He will lie. No big deal.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
43. You're giving Trump way too much credit. His only advantage at this point is the ability to
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jun 2017

plead insanity if charges are suggested.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
46. He plays the Republicans like yo-yos...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jun 2017

and they are still in charge. That is the present reality. At least, until the next election.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
58. They are in a Catch-22...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jun 2017

If the base turns against them, they go down. That is primary in their thoughts.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
53. If trump is playing chess...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:49 PM
Jun 2017

Then I'm expecting him to knock the pieces over, take a dump on the board, and start strutting around and claiming victory.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
62. LOL - I think the thought he
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 02:33 PM
Jun 2017

can get rid of Mueller is a (wet) dream of the cons. That would be incredibly damaging.

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