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regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:05 PM Jun 2017

Many have equated Comey to John Dean...

...in which case, it's enlightening to recall that Dean testified before the Senate in late June of 1973. Nixon didn't resign until August 1974. There's a lot of twists and turns that remain before this story is over.

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Many have equated Comey to John Dean... (Original Post) regnaD kciN Jun 2017 OP
Nowhere near John Dean! Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #1
No. Dean was White House counsel, IIRC... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #2
My point is... regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #4
Yeah, but as far as I can tell this is Watergate all over again. Johonny Jun 2017 #3

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
2. No. Dean was White House counsel, IIRC...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jun 2017

he was inside Nixon's White House.

Comey is a 3rd party investigator.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
4. My point is...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jun 2017

...that those unfamiliar with Watergate seem to be assuming a scenario back then where the star witness came before Congress, dropped a bombshell or two, and instant impeachment became a foregone conclusion. Then, when we don't get such a reaction now, they conclude the story is over. But that's not the way it happened then, and it isn't the way it was going to happen now, even in the most optimistic scenario. Remember, even the Ervin Committee wound up disbanding with little more than a final report. In the Watergate scenario, otbwas then the special prosecutor whose work carried the story on.

Johonny

(20,852 posts)
3. Yeah, but as far as I can tell this is Watergate all over again.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jun 2017

You have the president with a team of people apparently working on questionable activity. For Nixon the plumbers were doing election muckraking including the Watergate break in, in Trump's case they were colluding with Russia to hack Democrats (basically a modern day break in and muckraking.) The President in both cases allowed himself plausible deniability by having a team of people working indirectly on this. You have the team basically caught with their pants down and a huge investigation. You have the president then stepping in to try to force the hand of the agencies investigating (not him directly) but the people involved in the illegal activity. In both cases eventually the investigation would lead back to the president. Nixon obviously created the plumbers for a reason and clearly knew some of the stuff they were doing and approved of it, that's why he tried to cover it up. Trump clearly must know Russia was working with his people. He clearly indicates that on the campaign trail (he's not a bright man) many times. At one point begging Russia to hack his opponent! They both eventually fired people working in agencies investigating the crime.

At this point, they're the same thing. We wasted so much time on Benghazi, Sox the cat, Whitewater, Monica's dress, the meaning of the word is, Hillary's emails...but holy *, here we got basically the same crime Nixon had to resign over. This is Watergate. I imagine the tax stuff and feathering of nest Nixon was also accused of doing are soon to follow with Trump as well, because he appears to be doing that too...

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