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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:24 PM Jun 2017

The phrase, "I hope you will let it go", must be taken in context...

Standing alone, it sounds rather harmless.

Taken with the understanding that you may be fired from your job, it has a totally different meaning.

When Trump said that to FBI Director Comey, it was in the latter context. It was not as the Republican on the Committee today tried to portray.

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The phrase, "I hope you will let it go", must be taken in context... (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2017 OP
Kasowitz denied even that much. ucrdem Jun 2017 #1
Anyone who's ever had a bad boss C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #2
"Do you want to keep your job? I hope you will have sex with me." Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #3
Exactly. It makes me furious how they ignore context and act like it was sad in a vacuum anneboleyn Jun 2017 #8
Even if Comey's job wasn't in jeopardy True Dough Jun 2017 #4
yeap YCHDT Jun 2017 #6
When I said... Xipe Totec Jun 2017 #5
He's head of State. Turbineguy Jun 2017 #7
I noticed that Joe Scarborough emphasized this point this morning. kentuck Jun 2017 #9
Even on its own, it does not sound harmless to me. athena Jun 2017 #10
Exactly Leith Jun 2017 #11

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Kasowitz denied even that much.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jun 2017

Also the loyalty language. So it may be the case that Comey characterized the conversations without accurately quoting them. I haven't read the memos or the NYT accounts but if that line was clearly broached that would be trouble for Comey.

p.s. Comey is a piece of work and other than basic human charity I could care less what happens to him. If he really felt as morally righteous as he pretends he would have resigned on Jan. 9.

C_U_L8R

(45,019 posts)
2. Anyone who's ever had a bad boss
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jun 2017

understands exactly what kind of pressure Trump was applying.
He's so corrupt.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
3. "Do you want to keep your job? I hope you will have sex with me."
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jun 2017

Yep, I agree with you there.


kentuck
0. The phrase, "I hope you will let it go", must be taken in context...
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Standing alone, it sounds rather harmless.

Taken with the understanding that you may be fired from your job, it has a totally different meaning.

When Trump said that to FBI Director Comey, it was in the latter context. It was not as the Republican on the Committee today tried to portray.

True Dough

(17,314 posts)
4. Even if Comey's job wasn't in jeopardy
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jun 2017

Hearing the most powerful individual in the world (by virtue of the job, not due to his magnetism) express his wishes would be influential. It doesn't mean you should bow to his wishes -- and Comey wasn't about to do that -- but it made him hesitant, and it made him guarded and cautious. He took notes, which is a good thing.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. When I said...
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jun 2017

Oh, fuck it...

The asshole is guilty...

I hope you can let this go...

After the conviction.

For obstruction of justice

And whatever else this ratucker is guilty of.

Once he's in prision,

I hope you can let this go...



kentuck

(111,110 posts)
9. I noticed that Joe Scarborough emphasized this point this morning.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:24 PM
Jun 2017

It has to be put in context with the full conversation.

athena

(4,187 posts)
10. Even on its own, it does not sound harmless to me.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jun 2017

If it were, "I hope this will disappear as an issue", it would be a simple expression of hope. "I hope you will let this go" has a very important word in it: "you". When you tell someone "I hope you will do something", it's an implied threat. People don't talk that way except when they're making a threat.

But you make a good point that context is important. For example, "I hope you will go out on a date with me" can be very ominous if it is said by an employer to an employee, or by a boss to someone who works for him/her.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
11. Exactly
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jun 2017

It was an order and a threat, no matter the context. shitgibbon didn't need to add "or else" because it was well understood.

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