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Last edited Fri Jun 9, 2017, 02:05 AM - Edit history (1)
A friend of mine, a rather conservative AA; retired twice from federal service (USAF and Customs), was discussing Sheriff Clarke's legal issues and the $6.7M awarded to the mother who gave birth in the Milwaukee County jail only to have her baby die due to the Deputies refusal to summon emergency health services. By the way, my buddy, the retired fed has "suspended my affiliation with the Republican party" he may rejoin decency soon.
Edited to correct an obvious misstatement - The $6.7M was not awarded to the woman who lost her child, but to a woman who was repeatedly raped while in custody- Holy shit, Is this guy Torquemada in a cheap suit?
End edit...
Anyway, here is the thread:
Me- Typical Pro life republican law and order champion.
Me- Let a new born baby die rather than give medical care to the mother.
Me- Allowed a mentally challenged man die in his cell because the jail refused to give him water for 7 yes SEVEN DAYS
Me- Perfect Trumpster. He has realized that if you can be the prominent "Black Friend" to racist rich whites, you can really pad the ol' bank account.
Me- Fuck this guy
Trumpster- I don't understand the left. They don't care about abortions, but they care about an inmate.
Me- Inmates are people. Inmates in county usually have not been convicted, since they are awaiting trial. Hence innocent until proven guilty.
Trumpster- A baby is living as well (a heart beat is a living thing)
Me- I don't understand The Trump Party. Pro life until that baby draws a breath. Then their life is shit. Wouldn't want to spare a penny in taxes to feed or care for it.
Me- I don't know you. But I don't interact with the Trump Party supporters if I can help it.
Trumpster- So we should just pay to raise everyone baby. You first.
Me- So, bye. MAGA, impeach Putin's pet.
Trumpster- Lol. Close minded much. Of course you don't want to listen to the other side.
Me- I don't understand your point. A mentally ill very pregnant woman was arrested in his county. She was in labor while they processed her. That baby had a heart beat then. The mother delivered the baby alone in a cell because the county jail deputies refused to alert medical staff. The baby had a fucking heartbeat then as well. The baby did NOT HAVE A HEART BEAT the following morning, when Clarke's deputies finally decided to check what the screaming was about.
Me- So fuck you and your "Leftists hate babies durr durr durr" nonsense while you excuse a system that literally allowed a living baby to die on the bunk of a jail cell rather than call an ambulance
gtar100
(4,192 posts)What are they going to think and say when their talking points machine finally has a piston seize up. It'll be like it happened in the middle of the desert with no one else around.
The Polack MSgt
(13,192 posts)Except I don't think there is a god - except in my most adolescent revenge fantasies.
BTW - 90 minutes later and no reply
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)Thank You. 💖
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)I'm just going to demand that you give birth to it. Whatever happens after birth is your problem. Typical "Pro Life" bullshit. They don't give a shit about "Life" once it exits the birth canal.
The Polack MSgt
(13,192 posts)giving money to the super wealthy makes sense.
I wished I could crawl through the wire and smack the living shit outta that fat (OF COURSE HE IS) piece of garbage
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)care about those babies before they're born.
The most significant factor affecting the well being of any in-utero baby is the health of its mother while she is pregnant. If Republicans really cared about those unborn babies, Republican governors would not have opted out of the ACA's Medicaid expansion, which would have enabled more low income women to access regular prenatal care before that baby is born, increasing the odds that it is 1) actually born, and 2) has as healthy a start to life as possible. And if they really cared, they would have extended those benefits to pregnant women without asking for their 'papers'.
Of course, those particular mothers-to-be, and their babies-to-be by extension, are not very well off. Which is probably the reason that many Republicans are just paying lip service when they claim that they are the great protectors of their 'life'.
The Polack MSgt
(13,192 posts)When all I want to do is scream
"FUCK YOU YOU WILLFULLY IGNORANT WASTE OF SPACE - DIE PAINFULLY AND SOON!!!"
I know, not helpful...
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:01 AM - Edit history (1)
The left doesn't care about babies but the right doesn't want to pay for them. Fuck that guy! That was absolutely heartbreaking and cruel what happened to that woman.They are pro-birth but not pro-life. I said to a Trump humper that taking care of the planet is pro-life because we are concerned about future generations. And without clean air, water and safe food, nothing else matters. He gave me the orange kool-aid talking points about saving money and jobs. Fucking clueless.
The Polack MSgt
(13,192 posts)But, I fear that you're right. These people simply do not care about anything - except their own self interest.
Their own SHORT TERM self interest
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)They vote selfishly but against their own interests. I vote thinking not only of myself but others and future generations.
JustAnotherGen
(31,874 posts)Saw your cross post. My ending in these "discussions" which shuts it down pretty quickly?
From 2001 to 2007 you folks had the WH, Senate, and House - why did you allow abortion to continue?
The people of age to vote for Republicans in 2000 and 2016 "own" abortion - not Democratics.
They can't argue with that - even more so with Garlands Usurper on the SCOTUS.
irisblue
(33,020 posts)mreilly
(2,120 posts)... refute their lies with facts? "You're closed minded."
... refuse to allow them to substitute opinion for fact? "You're closed minded."
... try hold them to their own standards when they refuse to do so (screeching about Obama playing golf but it's just fine when Trump does it)? "You're closed minded."
And of course when all else fails they sneer about people drinking "Kool-Aid" since that's literally all they can do. And it all comes straight from the sorry old snot-ridden playbook these fucking pukes all lug around and frantically leaf through when sniveling about "butthurt sore loser libtards" doesn't cut it.