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Louise Mensch: Bushes are the "best of America" (Original Post) melman Jun 2017 OP
Oh yeah, the Bush family is the 'best'. YOHABLO Jun 2017 #1
How do you spell a fart sound, I wonder.... secondwind Jun 2017 #2
wow... now that's going to leave a mark... hlthe2b Jun 2017 #3
That explains it FBaggins Jun 2017 #5
There's already a thread on this OnDoutside Jun 2017 #4
A conservative likes the Bush family. Shocker. Possibly breaking news? nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #6
Breaking news to some people Bradical79 Jun 2017 #9
I missed those "number of posts". nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #11
Correction: claiming she's a moderate Bradical79 Jun 2017 #13
Those "number of posts" really tell a story. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #17
Not sure what you mean Bradical79 Jun 2017 #29
She's a Thatcherite. Nothing moderate about it. WoonTars Jun 2017 #47
She's recently been describing herself as transpolitical. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #28
Intent and quality of work Bradical79 Jun 2017 #31
Compared to the Trumps, the Bushes are the fucking Waltons, so BFD. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #7
Families of hundreds of thousands dead may disagree -nt Bradical79 Jun 2017 #10
Ha. cwydro Jun 2017 #16
"Check with some Iraqis and re-assess." NCTraveler Jun 2017 #19
Lol. cwydro Jun 2017 #22
Not surprised at your inability to grasp a *comparison* LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #20
Anyone who considers the Bush family acceptable... cwydro Jun 2017 #21
+1 nt m-lekktor Jun 2017 #24
and yet, here you are. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #33
You're not fooling me. nt cwydro Jun 2017 #42
You're not fooling me either...because HERE YOU ARE yet again. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #45
You are sadly obvious. cwydro Jun 2017 #46
And yet...HERE YOU *ARE* (again) LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #64
The Walmart Waltons, maybe? Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #48
I actually thought about that while I was writing it...as bad as the BFEE is... LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #66
"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this, demmiblue Jun 2017 #8
Yah, OK, then, Louise... MineralMan Jun 2017 #12
On Trump/Russia, she's on the money. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #27
Lmao. And so many on DU love her. cwydro Jun 2017 #14
It's sad. nt m-lekktor Jun 2017 #25
Sorry, inbred, insular, rich and stupid doesn't qualify as 'best of America' hatrack Jun 2017 #15
She is conservative. Still she puts country over party. I respect that. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #18
The Clintons and Obama's don't seem to have a problem with them. sarah FAILIN Jun 2017 #23
You just created a short circuit. LOL Lib Jun 2017 #30
W is a war criminal, and the stupid fucking war he started has killed more innocent people than ISIS killbotfactory Jun 2017 #32
Sorry, Louise. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #26
the reply was to HW Bush Mosby Jun 2017 #34
You mean the 'Bar' who said melman Jun 2017 #37
mensch is a conservative Mosby Jun 2017 #38
Well it used to be melman Jun 2017 #39
She's definitely not an ally Mosby Jun 2017 #40
No, they are NOT. BigDemVoter Jun 2017 #35
Thank you. cwydro Jun 2017 #44
"Luckiest guy in the world" is a charming admission. Orsino Jun 2017 #36
Remember sarisataka Jun 2017 #41
What a nice thing to say on someone's birthday. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #43
Louise Mensch also loves the Obamas. pnwmom Jun 2017 #49
isn't she a conservative ? JI7 Jun 2017 #50
Yes, so it's hardly surprising. She is a conservative Never-trumper. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #54
I give her slack....the bushes look sane and civil compared to today's GOP. kimbutgar Jun 2017 #51
and probably hate Trump more than we do rurallib Jun 2017 #52
I think she was just being nice. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #53
She obviously wasn't melman Jun 2017 #55
She's a conservative who says she couldn't care less about political issues right now pnwmom Jun 2017 #56
Look, you are free to follow and make excuses for this right-wing blogger melman Jun 2017 #57
And you are free to enjoy your witch hunt. But I'll keep reminding people pnwmom Jun 2017 #58
lol witch hunt melman Jun 2017 #59
It's the special energy you bring to attacking the woman -- pnwmom Jun 2017 #60
I don't see a lot posts promoting them here melman Jun 2017 #61
The Bushes are the American Corleones... VOX Jun 2017 #62
I'd take a million George Bushes before I take one Donald Trump. Initech Jun 2017 #63
What a freakin' waffle.... Kleveland Jun 2017 #65

hlthe2b

(102,351 posts)
3. wow... now that's going to leave a mark...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 06:23 AM
Jun 2017

What say ye, LM fans? Are the Bushes the "best of America"?

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
5. That explains it
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:03 AM
Jun 2017

Sources in positions to know confirmed yesterday that the FISA court had approved allowing the Marshall of the Supreme Court to seize control of any social media accounts that exposed the substance of sealed indictments to the public.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
4. There's already a thread on this
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 06:25 AM
Jun 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9168978

In any case, this is not a surprise, Mensch is a conservative and has never hidden that, no matter how we might disagree with her preferences.
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
9. Breaking news to some people
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jun 2017

A number of posts claiming she wasn't a real conservative because she's from the U.K.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
13. Correction: claiming she's a moderate
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

due to being from the U.K. and "European". And while there's some truth to that as a general rule, it's not really accurate as far as Mensch is concerned.

Really though, I suppose that shouldn't matter as her content speaks for itself. The occasional story she is somewhat correct on is far outweighed by the distracting bullshit and nonsensical conspiracy theories she puts out.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
29. Not sure what you mean
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:39 AM
Jun 2017

But you can track them down if you like with google, if you know how to use it properly. I didn't bookmark the individual posts, and I'm not going to do a bunch of research because someone on a forum doesn't want to believe me.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
28. She's recently been describing herself as transpolitical.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jun 2017

... far more interested in Russian aggression than party politics. She surely has her soft spots when it comes to knowledge of US history and politics, but IMO, her intent is in the right place.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
31. Intent and quality of work
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jun 2017

Two different things. Intent doesn't matter much if most of your work is innacurate, sloppy, or outright false.

I don't know her character beyond her non-Russia twitter posts and comments she makes. Just because she doesn't like the people I don't like doesn't make her noble, honest, or even good at her chosen career (which is the most important factor as far as we are concerned here).

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. Ha.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jun 2017

Not surprised at your comment.

The Waltons? Seriously?

Check with some Iraqis and re-assess.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. "Check with some Iraqis and re-assess."
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jun 2017

I tried to check. They must be busy with their new found liberation. Freedum seems to be working well for them. My contacts must be enjoying a day at the lake.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
66. I actually thought about that while I was writing it...as bad as the BFEE is...
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jun 2017

I did not think they would be TRAITORS like the Trump family is. Like...the BFEE was bad (I honestly thought Cheney was worse) but the Trumps take low to a new level.

demmiblue

(36,879 posts)
8. "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this,
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jun 2017

this is working very well for them."

- Barbara Bush and her 'beautiful mind'

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
27. On Trump/Russia, she's on the money.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jun 2017

On the Bush Crime Family, not so much. Mensch has a lot to learn about the US oligarchy.

Mensch is a great citizen soldier for the IC and has done remarkable work. But she somehow isn't aware of Bush's VP, Mr. Cheney, who destroyed an intelligence branch by his outing of an undercover agent who was managing a spy network aimed at uncovering Iran's nuclear weapons interests. Instead, Mensch virtually deifies W. She should stick to what she knows.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
15. Sorry, inbred, insular, rich and stupid doesn't qualify as 'best of America'
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jun 2017

Get a fucking clue, Louise.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
23. The Clintons and Obama's don't seem to have a problem with them.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jun 2017

If they can be cordial and friendly, who am I to complain about a birthday greeting?

Bill brings Bush Sr. funky socks...

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
30. You just created a short circuit.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:43 AM
Jun 2017

In the brains of some DUers.

"How dare anyone say a kind word to a repuke president! What's that you say? Bush 1 left a kind and respectful note on the Oval Office desk for Bill Clinton? You mean the bush family are humans? What? Obama and Hillary said something nice about the Bush family? You're lying! You must be a RW troll! I'm hitting alert!"


Make no mistake, W was responsible for the worst presidency in my short life. "Was" is the operative word. The bush family may not be Saints but they are at least human.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
32. W is a war criminal, and the stupid fucking war he started has killed more innocent people than ISIS
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:54 AM
Jun 2017

And it helped created ISIS. And it was all predictable that this is what would happen.

It bothers me deeply that Obama and the Clinton's have no problem with that.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
26. Sorry, Louise.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

You weren't in the US when Bush 43 wreaked havoc. He lied us into the Iraq War. He sat on his thumbs for months before the 9/11 attacks. There's so much more. There is ample reason that he was criticized as "All hat, no cattle."

Louise Mensch is on the money when it comes to her laser-like focus on the Trump/Russia complex of scandals. But when her heart goes all a-flutter for the Bushes, it's time for me take a break. Her waxing patriotic over the Bush Crime Family is misguided and naive.

Well, no one's perfect...

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
37. You mean the 'Bar' who said
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jun 2017

“Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?


or this about Katrina victims in the Astrodome:

"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this, this is working very well for them."


That Bar? Yeah, she's really the best of America, that one.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
39. Well it used to be
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jun 2017

that right wing sources weren't allowed here, but for some reason this one is cited constantly.

And the people that link to her often describe her as an 'ally.' She is not. That's all.

Mosby

(16,342 posts)
40. She's definitely not an ally
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jun 2017

To be honest I never thought about how posting tweets fits with the "no right wing sites or talking points" rule.


BigDemVoter

(4,156 posts)
35. No, they are NOT.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jun 2017

Despite the fact that they are "A-Class" citizens compared to Pussy Grabber, let's not forget that Pussy Grabber is a gigantic statistical outlier and he makes EVERYBODY look good in comparison.

GHWB was a lying fucker who employed Lee Atwater who came up with the Willy Horton ads. His wife, Barbara, despite her white hair and seemingly mild manner was (is) an entitled piece of shit.

And their offspring? Do we even need to go there?

WTF is wrong with Louise? She obviously has no fucking clue what she's talking about.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
36. "Luckiest guy in the world" is a charming admission.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jun 2017

Inheriting that sort of wealth does indeed guarantee an easy life in any career--or none--that one might want.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
56. She's a conservative who says she couldn't care less about political issues right now
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jun 2017

with the country under attack.

And she says people should be putting "patriotism over party" -- which is more than the Jill Stein "progressives" ever said.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9184564

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
57. Look, you are free to follow and make excuses for this right-wing blogger
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:45 PM
Jun 2017

But I'm not buying into it and I'm not going to pretend she's something other than what she is.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
58. And you are free to enjoy your witch hunt. But I'll keep reminding people
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:50 PM
Jun 2017

that she's a Never-Trump conservative who is helping to rally the anti-Trump troops.

And I'm glad she's there.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
60. It's the special energy you bring to attacking the woman --
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jun 2017

a conservative woman who has been vociferously against DT since the primaries.

Why don't I see you going after Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell with a similar determination? They loved the Bushes, too.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
61. I don't see a lot posts promoting them here
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jun 2017

Or really any Republican. Do you?

I mean there was your fan fiction about the superhero Comey this morning, but other than that there really isn't a lot.

But there are for this particular person, and I find it pretty disturbing. Because she really is a rather odious character

But hey nice try, trying to make it about her being a woman. And by nice I mean pathetic.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
62. The Bushes are the American Corleones...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:12 PM
Jun 2017

And they probably have a bigger body count than the Mario Puzo's fictional crime family.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
63. I'd take a million George Bushes before I take one Donald Trump.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jun 2017

At least Bush still knew how to run a functioning government. Trump and his band of extremists hijacked this country and they're driving us off a cliff.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
65. What a freakin' waffle....
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jun 2017

Covered in Lyle's Golden Syrup.... or maybe treacle.

I take everything that Louise says with a block of salt.

With a rasher of bacon, stewed tomato, and a smoked kipper.



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