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Snarkoleptic

(6,001 posts)
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 06:31 PM Jun 2017

Righteous rant by Dan Rather on Facebook - THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

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As with many of my fellow Americans, I don't consider myself partisan politically - never have. I am a registered independent voter and have been for most of my life. With that in mind, I submit the following:

Can we please get this out of the way? None of what is happening at the top of government now is normal. None of it. And no one should normalize it. No one.

We have a President who lies without a second thought. Big bold lies that are easily disproven. That is not normal.

We have serious allegations around obstruction of justice by that President. That is not normal.

We have an FBI director fired for insisting to continue pursuing a serious investigation into the sanctify of our republic. It has never happened before in our history. That is not normal.

We have a hostile foreign power attacking and undermining our electoral process. That is not normal.

We have an Attorney General under a serious shadow of association with said foreign power, with indications that there is much more to this story than we yet know. That is not normal.

We have Federal judges, our closest foreign allies, and the free press under scurrilous attack from the President and his enablers. At the same time we have despots praised. That is not normal.

We have an Administration fanning the flames of division over race, ethnicity, religion, sexuality, and gender. That is not normal.

We have an overhaul of our entire health care system being written in secret on a rapid time frame. That is not normal.

We have a sordid confluence of the President's business interests and his political power. That is not normal.

The list could go on and on. And feel free to add your own to the comments section.

What concerns me even more than any of these items is the fact that they are largely being met by a shrug or excuses from most Republican elected officials. Even many Democrats seem overwhelmed and are inclined to let some of this just ride. That may be how politics works. But this is bigger. It's about our nation.

We are shifting the goalposts for our democracy. We are failing to be outraged by the outrageous because there is something even more outrageous that always seems to hit the news cycle. And that is dangerous.

What gives me hope is we have had waves of abnormality in our country's history. And we've had times when what we would consider now to be not normal, like segregation, was considered normal. What has centered and saved our country time and again is civic engagement. I believe that most people in this nation don't think any of this is normal. And they could very well vote out those elected officials in both parties who are normalizing these outrages.

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Righteous rant by Dan Rather on Facebook - THIS IS NOT NORMAL. (Original Post) Snarkoleptic Jun 2017 OP
Go Dan! Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #1
Very good points made- unfortunately that's our disturbing reality without exaggeration nt wishstar Jun 2017 #2
That's because ALL branches of government including the SC are Republicans. Auntie Bush Jun 2017 #5
It is overwhelming. Ligyron Jun 2017 #3
K&R orangecrush Jun 2017 #4
If Trump were Pinocchio, BarbD Jun 2017 #6
Would Rec this 100 times if I could. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #7
Yep - we have to stay the course BillInIllinois Jun 2017 #8
We need to get them all out before an SC nom Iplayoneontv Jun 2017 #9
Welcome to DU, Iplayoneontv! calimary Jun 2017 #14
K&R. dchill Jun 2017 #10
Can You imagine a Democratic President and administration getting away with this shit elmac Jun 2017 #11
Excellent! ananda Jun 2017 #12
I love Dan Rather. calimary Jun 2017 #13
LInks to statement: Amaryllis Jun 2017 #15
Wrong. This Is The New Normal. It Will Take Tremendous Effort Simply To Get Back... TomCADem Jun 2017 #16
No, it's NOT a new normal. Yes it will take time & effort to peel it back, but that's not normal. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #18
Are we still in the Paris Agreement? TomCADem Jun 2017 #20
Of course. It is not normal to be only with Syria outside of the Paris Agreement. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #21
Yep Cosmocat Jun 2017 #26
The Republican President is not normal. Nor is his party. Period. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #17
Kick. dalton99a Jun 2017 #19
Why no major network has offered this man the moon and the stars to join up is a total mystery. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #22
Rather was fired after attack by conservative media american_ideals Jun 2017 #23
he exposed gw bush as a deserter, rove set a trap, and talk radio was certainot Jun 2017 #25
Yes, I know. I was talking since then - it's been so long ago Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #27
if it's ok with 1000 radio stations and no one complains then it's okay certainot Jun 2017 #24

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
3. It is overwhelming.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 07:30 PM
Jun 2017

Hard to concentrate on any one outrage before another pops up, sometimes in multiples.

8. Yep - we have to stay the course
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:05 PM
Jun 2017

Absolutely right! It's all so outrageous, it's hard to sustain my outrage -- and more keeps coming almost every day. I find I have to work to stay calm and go about my life as I keep going to meetings, talking with friends (and especially my spouse), committing to sustained action -- and behind it all, reading, listening, paying attention, and thinking critically and alertly. We can't let the behavior we're seeing become anything like normal. We have to keep working to change it -- to find effective ways (and voters and candidates) to change it.

Iplayoneontv

(77 posts)
9. We need to get them all out before an SC nom
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:26 PM
Jun 2017

The last few months of GW Bush's presidency felt like a dead zone to me where no one did shit.

I think the Republicans are running against a deadline. It's not the 2018 elections so what the fuck is it? Trump getting impeached would give them Pence. Are they afraid of Trump's delusional followers?

Plus, the shit with the Supreme Court. At the time, it felt like a fuck you to Obama but it was a huge risk. I'm wondering if they knew the end result. Conspiracy theories are getting too easy because who the fuck knows.

I was leaning stupidity but I'm leaning malice now.

Or both.

calimary

(81,459 posts)
14. Welcome to DU, Iplayoneontv!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:52 PM
Jun 2017

Malice. I'd say first on the list. Stupidity comes in a close second. Pettiness should be in there, too. Maybe tied for second. Or a three way tie for second - if you add Greed. But then you'd also have to add Selfishness, and Short-sightedness, too.

And at that point, the floodgates would have burst open and we'd almost literally be drowning in descriptives.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
11. Can You imagine a Democratic President and administration getting away with this shit
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jun 2017

The Thugs would be rioting in the streets and there would be 20 different impeachment hearings going at the same time.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
12. Excellent!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:40 PM
Jun 2017

Dan Rather and Bill Moyers make me proud that there
are good Texans still pursuing a decent course in
journalism!

calimary

(81,459 posts)
13. I love Dan Rather.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jun 2017

He was such a thorn in Nixon's side. And in GHWB's side. Bush-1's ne'er-do-well dry-drunk son got some revenge but you can't keep a good man down.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
16. Wrong. This Is The New Normal. It Will Take Tremendous Effort Simply To Get Back...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jun 2017

...to the state of affairs that existed at the end of the Bush administration.

This is the fallacy of Neoprogressives like Susan Sarandon who argue that the election of Trump is actually good for progressives because it gets people involved.

The reason why people are involved is because Trump and Republicans is rolling back rights, regulatory protections, and taking away benefits. By the time Democrats are able to get back to power, assuming we are not in the midst of a dictatorship, it will take tremendous effort simply to return to where we were at the end of the Bush administration, let alone the end of the Obama administration.

We will be dealing with a crippled EPA, huge cuts to Medicaid, no ACA, no revenues due to tax cuts to the rich, Republicans in the courts, etc. Think of how so much of President Obama's agenda was dedicated simply to avoiding a Great Depression following Dubya.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
18. No, it's NOT a new normal. Yes it will take time & effort to peel it back, but that's not normal.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:02 PM
Jun 2017

Resist. Persist. Triumph.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
20. Are we still in the Paris Agreement?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:28 PM
Jun 2017

Are the EPA regulations still going to be on the books? Will there be an ACA or Consumer Protection Agency when Trump is done? Will millions of poor people be without Medicaid? Finally, Gorsuch will still be a judge ready to kill any effort to repair the damage.

And that is what we will need to do. Repair the damage.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
21. Of course. It is not normal to be only with Syria outside of the Paris Agreement.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:30 PM
Jun 2017

Nicaragua is outside on the other side because they feel the agreement doesn't go far enough.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
26. Yep
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 07:04 AM
Jun 2017

This didn't start November 8th.

And, 45 isn't the cause.

This shit has been building the last quarter century, at least.

The vile, poisonous hatred that enabled 45 to get elected was in place LONG before he came down the elevator.

There are literally hundreds in Congress who are fully on board with it, thousands at the state levels, a hundred million og our neighbors, and another hundred million who are ok with it.

american_ideals

(613 posts)
23. Rather was fired after attack by conservative media
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:12 AM
Jun 2017

Presumably see news outlets are afraid of conservative backlash.

(Have you heard that before? That's a big point of the conservative propanganda machine -- to cow the real press )

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. he exposed gw bush as a deserter, rove set a trap, and talk radio was
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:35 AM
Jun 2017

used to generate the 'outrage' needed to intimidate the network

it only worked, like with many swiftboat victims, because dems ignore talk radio

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. if it's ok with 1000 radio stations and no one complains then it's okay
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:31 AM
Jun 2017

that's the way it's been for 30 years, since reagan killed the fairness doctrine, the right built its talk radio psyops, and liberals and dems made it a habit to ignore it.

it's the only reason trump even got close to the white house, like bush and palin before him.

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