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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:43 PM Jun 2017

The Millennials Are Moving Left

The Millennials Are Moving Left
Labour's success in the British election is part of a growing trend across Western Europe and America. What's motivating it?
BY JOHN B. JUDIS June 9, 2017

British Prime Minister Theresa May’s bid to consolidate power has backfired. Her Conservative Party lost its governing majority in Thursday’s snap-election, forcing it to form a minority government with the Democratic Unionist Party of Northern Ireland. Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party, which gained 31 net seats while Conservatives lost 12, appeared to get its boost from young voters.

That assessment, if accurate, confirms a trend in American and Western European politics toward a radical turn among young voters that could over the next decade further undermine the political center.

What’s motivating these young leftists? The evidence points to underlying economic factors, and suggests that these voters will have a lasting influence on the fundamental structure of Western economies.

In the United States, rising student debt was a major issue among Sanders’s voters and earlier among the Occupy protestors. In some Western European countries, youth unemployment is extraordinarily high. While it’s 9.4 percent in the United States—more than double the average—and 11.9 percent in the UK, it’s 21.70 percent in France, 34 percent in Italy, and 39.30 percent in Spain. In addition, the way in which political and business leaders have managed the transition from an industrial to a post-industrial economy may also be leading the young to raise questions about capitalism.


Businesses in the U.S. and Western Europe have increasingly shifted from workforces of full-time, lifetime employees to contracted, temporary, and part-time workers; and labor markets are constantly being reshuffled, as cyber-capitalism creates new niches and specialties at the expense of old ones.

In their study of American job growth from 2005 to 2015, economists Lawrence Katz and Alan Krueger discovered that “all of the net employment growth in the U.S. economy from 2005 to 2015 appears to have occurred in alternative work arrangements.” These consist of temporary, part-time, and contracted work that does not, as a rule, include benefits or the prospect of permanent and long-time employment.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143239/millennials-moving-left

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The Millennials Are Moving Left (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2017 OP
They always were Left Quanta Jun 2017 #1
Speaking as a boomer on the tail end that never got a damn thing out of it workinclasszero Jun 2017 #2
I am 63 years old and I have always been left. Demtexan Jun 2017 #4
The young don't vote in part because we make it hard american_ideals Jun 2017 #8
Well duh kids! That was Hillary Clinton's exact policy on changes she would make for Voter Rights. mhw Jun 2017 #13
I've voted from the day I was eligible. cwydro Jun 2017 #16
What's your definition of "hard"? frazzled Jun 2017 #21
Need national holiday, automatic registration american_ideals Jun 2017 #23
You're speaking generally, I mean in particular frazzled Jun 2017 #25
"We will benefit from Trump depredations in future elections." workinclasszero Jun 2017 #26
I am a boomer who has always voted for Democrats. murielm99 Jun 2017 #5
Both my parents were liberal democrats. Demtexan Jun 2017 #9
Same here. I didn't know many conservatives in the 60's, that's moonscape Jun 2017 #10
Wtf? What thankless bunch of little shits. mhw Jun 2017 #12
Conservative power structures aren't blind to this trend. Beartracks Jun 2017 #3
This article is about the UK oberliner Jun 2017 #19
It also cites the UK as an example of a trend in both Europe and America. Beartracks Jun 2017 #27
but they don't vote in high numbers like the geezers pstokely Jun 2017 #6
in the UK and elsewhere in Europe JI7 Jun 2017 #7
Govern to their interests gratuitous Jun 2017 #11
I hope this is true bdjhawk Jun 2017 #14
Percentages Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #17
This article is about the UK oberliner Jun 2017 #20
Now, how do we get them to get out and vote? world wide wally Jun 2017 #15
Let's hope so. It's their future riding on it judesedit Jun 2017 #18
too bad the young don't vote... Sancho Jun 2017 #22
The 2017 UK election in one pic dalton99a Jun 2017 #24

Quanta

(195 posts)
1. They always were Left
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:47 PM
Jun 2017

Just seemed like weren't interested for awhile. Once the Millennials get fully engaged, the Boomers will be relegated to the dustbin, if they aren't progressive. As a GenX'er I can say that lol.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. Speaking as a boomer on the tail end that never got a damn thing out of it
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jun 2017

Please hurry up and get rid of those greedy hypocrites that are leaving this world in ruins for coming generations.

Trump himself and the republican party that most of them voted for will deal the final death blow to the baby boomers real soon.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
4. I am 63 years old and I have always been left.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:01 AM
Jun 2017

Older people vote more then younger people.

I have 40 something family members who are far right.

Even the 30 somethings that are republicans.

The older folks in my family are democrats.

Trump has a lot of young people who voted for him.

I lucky enough to have been around a lot real ass kicking democrats growing up.

You might learn something from us.




american_ideals

(613 posts)
8. The young don't vote in part because we make it hard
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:32 AM
Jun 2017

National holiday on election day
Auto registration
More mail/early voting


It's easy for retired people to vote. If we did the above a lot more young people would vote.

 

mhw

(678 posts)
13. Well duh kids! That was Hillary Clinton's exact policy on changes she would make for Voter Rights.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:24 AM
Jun 2017

Now they complain about voter issues & Citizens United?
That was Hillary's damn platform.
Geezus

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
21. What's your definition of "hard"?
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 07:25 AM
Jun 2017

I've been voting for 45 years, and haven't missed a federal, state, or local election yet. And I've done it in four different states. I've never found it in the least bit hard. It takes at most an hour out of my life once every two years. And every time we've moved I've had to go to the DMV to get registered. Not that hard. (My current state just passed an automatic registration law in the House.)

I know it's harder if you're, say, an African American voter in the middle of St. Louis who is forced to stand in line for several hours, or a black person whose voter status is challenged in a Deep South red state.

What have you, or millennials in general, found "hard" about voting? That once every two years you have to get up a half hour early to cast a vote at your local polling place? I'm not being snarky, just very curious.

american_ideals

(613 posts)
23. Need national holiday, automatic registration
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jun 2017

Yes, the GOP tries to make voting as hard as possible for its political opponents.

Many D leaning districts have long poll lines and long waits. That's not making voting easy. It should be trivially easy to know where to vote and voters should be automatically registered. Why is election day not a national holiday? The current situation disadvantages those who work.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
25. You're speaking generally, I mean in particular
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jun 2017

I am a D who has always lived in D-leaning districts. I have never had automatic registration. In fact, it used to be much harder to register. Yet it's not impossible: you take the time to do it. It's a one-time thing. And now most states have early voting with a month-full of days you can go to vote, and you can check everything (registration status, polling place location) and even get sample ballots to look at online.

Why does everything have to be automatic or available with the click of a button or done from home for this generation? (And I don't want to overgeneralize: my children are millennials (though very early ones, closer to Gen X than today's millennials) and they've registered to vote in multiple states and they go to the polls). Why is it not hard at all to go to the gym or a spin class or wait in line at a concert, or go to a crowded bar, but hard to go to a registration center or polling place? I truly don't understand it.

This does not mean I don't want it to be made as easy as possible with the things you suggest. But I'm going to maintain that these are not the real reason that the millennial vote hovers well below 50 percent for presidential elections and around 30 percent for midterms. It's probably nonexistent for local elections. I maintain that it's disinterest. Which is okay: when you're young and don't have much skin in the game, and don't think about schools for your kids and funding issues and haven't had the experience of knowing how the federal government operates or impacts your life or community or nation or world, and you're more into yourself than thinking about the good of the general public, you're not as interested. If and when they age into the work-home-children phase, they'll vote more. Automatic registration and national holidays are not going to change the turnout that substantially. It's about attitudes.

The reason more millennials voted in Britain is because of Brexit: they DID have real skin in the game by losing the ability to study or work throughout the EU freely or partake of other benefits. It was a rebound phenomenon. Just like we had great youth turnout after the Bush administration and its wars and surveillance, etc. Obama benefitted from that. We will benefit from Trump depredations in future elections. And then the impetus will wane again. It's always been like that, always will be.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. "We will benefit from Trump depredations in future elections."
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jun 2017

Hopefully you are correct.

Not only will the millennials have 'skin in the game' after Trump and his party give them 4 years of punishment, so will lots of idiot boomers who actually believed Don the con was gonna help them out!

murielm99

(30,765 posts)
5. I am a boomer who has always voted for Democrats.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:12 AM
Jun 2017

I am on the left, and always have been.

I am a liberal, not a progressive. I refuse to let the meaning of the word "liberal" to be redefined or ridiculed by anyone, left or right.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
9. Both my parents were liberal democrats.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jun 2017

My father was a union man.

My younger family members are greedy republicans.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
10. Same here. I didn't know many conservatives in the 60's, that's
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jun 2017

for sure, and most of my friends are still liberal - except a handful of wayward ones!

Perhaps it's simply that we remain friends with those we have the most in common with, similar world views.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
3. Conservative power structures aren't blind to this trend.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:56 PM
Jun 2017

That's why the GOP is actively gerrymandering, rigging, and disenfranchising (and has been for years) in order to -- unfairly and unethically -- protect their own power. One can only hope they have even less success than Theresa May.

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Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
27. It also cites the UK as an example of a trend in both Europe and America.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jun 2017

"That assessment, if accurate, confirms a trend in American and Western European politics toward a radical turn among young voters that could over the next decade further undermine the political center."

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Govern to their interests
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jun 2017

One of the things that Corbyn ran on was a return to the pre-1997 regime of free college tuition. In 20 years, the "skin-in-the-game" crowd had jumped tuition responsibilities from nothing to a thousand pounds to nine thousand pounds. English students were competing with American students for the debt burden of going to college.

That's just one thing. Right after World War II, a lot of veterans came back, ran for office, got elected, and instituted programs like the GI Bill to send their comrades off to college and get educated. If we freed up our college age folks to earn and learn without saddling them with six figures of debt, well . . . 65 years ago, we got some incredibly innovative new businesses. What would we do in a wired world today?

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
14. I hope this is true
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:28 AM
Jun 2017

but am a bit skeptical. I have been to three well educated millennial weddings this spring/summer and all of them included the bride pledging her submission to her groom's "leadership" in their marriage. And these are not Bible belt, Baptist or fundy church weddings. The brides don't seem like doormats and the grooms don't seem like insecure weenies but they sure go full speed into that crap. I live in a well educated suburb of Chicago and see a lot of millennials who are the young angry white men and women who fall in line with the same bullshit. Proud to be Trumpsters.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. Percentages
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 04:10 AM
Jun 2017

What you are describing is not going to end. Brides indeed tend to assume their husband's ideology, immediately or eventually. Angry white males are angrier and more simplistic than ever.

It's not an 80/20 trend. We are earning a few percent more than typical among the young. That's meaningful going forward and the reason the registration drives should be in full force right now, while Trump's approval rating is in the tank.

This is all about presidential approval. Newcomer voters are swayed by which party is in power when they turn 18, and whether that president is popular or unpopular. Since Bush was in the approval dumps post Katrina, and Obama was relatively popular for most of his 8 years, and now Trump is at record lows for a fresh president, we have had a 12 year run of favorable terrain. That's extremely meaningful down the road.

Situational influence and long term trends are often obscured by the obvious and now. For example, the 2016 electorate was the most liberal in decades, with 26% self-describing as liberal in the national exit poll. The gap of only 9 points between conservatives (35) and liberals (26) was the lowest margin in the decades I have researched the category. It has gone from 12 to 11 to 10 and now 9. I was stunned at 9. Granted, right now the liberals are concentrated toward the coasts but if the trend continues it will grip one meaningful state after another.

Young voters and especially young single women don't turn out in midterms, which is why our upside there is always very low compared to Republicans in a favorable midterm cycle. Our avalanche might be 25-35 seats while the GOP can double that.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
15. Now, how do we get them to get out and vote?
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:39 AM
Jun 2017

So many of them are convinced that their vote doesn't count in America.

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)
24. The 2017 UK election in one pic
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:42 AM
Jun 2017

Mr. Corbyn posed for selfies at a campaign event in Leeds on May 10. He went out of his way to attract the youth vote. Credit Phil Noble/Reuters
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/world/europe/britain-elections-youth-vote.html
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