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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVERY useful explanation of Obamacare
http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/vb8vs/eli5_what_exactly_is_obamacare_and_what_did_it/c530lfxThis is a concise summary of what the healthcare reform bill does and doesn't do, and when specific provisions go into effect. Great ammunition refuting common misconceptions, with citations. A great resource, bookmark this and use it often, and share.
intheflow
(28,476 posts)I've been waiting for something like this to emerge, easy enough for even the dumbest teabagger to understand. Sharing widely - and I hope this thread gets more legs on the Greatest Page. Thanks for finding and posting!
Abra
(45 posts)What Obamacare does:
It forces every American, under the eventual threat of government force, to purchase all-too-often worthless insurance at any price the insurance companies desire to charge. If you happen to be dirt poor, no problem, the government will borrow the money and hand that to the insurance companies while leaving your kids stuck with the bill.
What Obamacare does not do:
Provide anyone with healthcare or lower the price of healthcare. It does not stop insurance companies from continuing to crank their rates into the stratosphere -- it now enables them to do it even faster knowing that they have a captive customer base. Insurance companies can still continue to charge ludicrous co-pays, they can continue to deny claims, they can continue doing everything they have always done in the past to screw their customers over. They were given the world, the people were given the shaft.
It's not like I am not used to this, but I never thought I would see a Democrat President sign a Heritage Foundation proposal into law, and other Democrats defending it like it was some kind of liberal victory.
"It forces every American, under the eventual threat of government force, to purchase all-too-often worthless insurance at any price the insurance companies desire to charge. If you happen to be dirt poor, no problem, the government will borrow the money and hand that to the insurance companies while leaving your kids stuck with the bill."
...to "borrow the money" to help people afford health care than to bomb the shit out of other countries.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002921258
Oh, and "eventual threat of government force" is RW nonsense.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002881604
Are you kidding? You think the government is going to let you get away with not paying your fine/tax if you don't purchase a policy from a gleefully grinning insurance salesman? Get real.
I do not support borrowing money to buy bombs OR borrowing money to give to insurance companies.
If, in fact, we were borrowing money to provide actual healthcare, I would support it while questioning why we need to borrow the money at all. But again, that's not what Obamacare does.
Obamacare is a corporate subsidy disguised as an entitlement. As a liberal, I am opposed to corporatism. But that's just me.
"Are you kidding? You think the government is going to let you get away with not paying your fine/tax if you don't purchase a policy from a gleefully grinning insurance salesman? Get real."
...nonsense. "Government force" is RW nonsense.
"Obamacare is a corporate subsidy disguised as an entitlement. As a liberal, I am opposed to corporatism. But that's just me."
"Liberal"?