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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:57 PM Jun 2017

Comey strikes me as a self-righteous person who wouldn't be fun to be with.

And I'm just tickled pink that he's the one that Donny thought he could co-opt. They are absolute polar opposites. Comey may be self-righteous, but he's also pretty righteous. GO JIM!!!

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Comey strikes me as a self-righteous person who wouldn't be fun to be with. (Original Post) LAS14 Jun 2017 OP
He's a total professional. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #1
He's a coward by his own admission. cwydro Jun 2017 #20
He has behaved professionally, in this, in my estimation. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #21
Really? cwydro Jun 2017 #22
Until he was fired he was subject to the constraints of the position and the situation. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #25
But he wasn't subject to those constraints in July and October? LisaM Jun 2017 #102
"Sickened by the Comey love on this board" whathehell Jun 2017 #37
Nope. cwydro Jun 2017 #71
Wow.. whathehell Jun 2017 #107
Been here way longer than you bud. cwydro Jun 2017 #93
Lol.. whathehell Jun 2017 #108
He was a credible witness. White House is doing a great job smearing him emulatorloo Jun 2017 #53
There is absolutely NO comparison between Comey and Trump and if you think smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #64
You're entitled... Charlotte Little Jun 2017 #66
And what would he have accomplished by confronting DT? NOTHING. pnwmom Jun 2017 #68
"Anyone who admires Comey is fucked up"? whathehell Jun 2017 #32
Yeah, a coward -- just like a woman who is being sexually harassed pnwmom Jun 2017 #67
No comparison there. cwydro Jun 2017 #73
His height had nothing to do with it. His relative lack of power is the key. pnwmom Jun 2017 #75
Bull fucking shit. cwydro Jun 2017 #77
Yeah his "lack of power" cwydro Jun 2017 #79
He testified AFTER he got fired. Before he got fired, the President pnwmom Jun 2017 #80
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #82
You're being blinded by Comey's height and gender. pnwmom Jun 2017 #87
I'm a woman who has been sexually harassed. cwydro Jun 2017 #74
So am I. And so are millions of women who agreed with me. pnwmom Jun 2017 #78
Utter effing nonsense. cwydro Jun 2017 #81
I am a woman, and so are all those writers who wrote the pieces pnwmom Jun 2017 #85
I'm amazed you see this as similar or comparable. cwydro Jun 2017 #88
I'm not feeling sorry for Comey. I think he'll be just fine. pnwmom Jun 2017 #89
Happy to see the shitgibbon go down. cwydro Jun 2017 #91
Yeah. cwydro Jun 2017 #96
I admire Comey Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #105
"Professional" NCTraveler Jun 2017 #116
. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #69
fine, add it to the list. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #95
a total professional who helped to install Trump into the White House Skittles Jun 2017 #106
I don't think we know the whole story. If and when we do, it's entirely possible that Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #109
I think there is no question Hillary was treated with an extreme double standard Skittles Jun 2017 #110
Like I said, I don't think we know the whole story. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #111
I wish people would get off this tarmac excuse. Comey didn't have to do a damned thing about the Solomon Jun 2017 #113
It's not an excuse. Lynch made the decision herself, remember? Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #114
I'm not so sure about this. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2017 #2
I really don't care how Comey behaves in his private life. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #5
I agree... Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #11
More to the point, how could it possibly matter? whathehell Jun 2017 #33
It's been my experience that people who seem stuffy and humorless in public The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #3
An Irish Catholic guy from Jersey. Works for me...LOL..n/t monmouth4 Jun 2017 #13
+1,000 malaise Jun 2017 #44
The pundits said the voters would rather have a beer with W than Al Gore* FenwayDonkey Jun 2017 #4
And yet those who know Gore and have worked closely with him say he tblue37 Jun 2017 #8
I frequently hear the same about Hillary Clinton, too. GoCubsGo Jun 2017 #90
Yes, indeed. She is criticized for laughing or smiling, and then for not laughing or smiling. tblue37 Jun 2017 #92
they are the same reason shitty reality shows do well JI7 Jun 2017 #18
This took some stones. CentralMass Jun 2017 #6
he seems like a guy I would enjoy having a beer with dweller Jun 2017 #7
Milk, maybe. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #27
Karma would certainly be served if Comey takes Trump out of office...after putting him in it. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #9
yup, i had a bad feeling after this broke. and how the media was reporting it JI7 Jun 2017 #19
Choir cilla4progress Jun 2017 #10
The most revealing part was when Feinstein asked him why he didn't tell Trump it was inappropriate Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #12
Feinstein was being disingenuous. Tell me one subordinate anywhere who would say that to WinkyDink Jun 2017 #29
I didn't read it that way Charlotte Little Jun 2017 #72
Yes, he looked very sorrowful. Demit Jun 2017 #34
Now DU loves Comey? cwydro Jun 2017 #14
nope, but if he can help bring down trump i'm all for it JI7 Jun 2017 #15
He is scum. cwydro Jun 2017 #16
i agree, he is a jackass and typical sexist asshole JI7 Jun 2017 #17
I was, and still am, disgusted and angry at him over that, and yet dmr Jun 2017 #23
Good post. cwydro Jun 2017 #47
Do you see shades of gray or only black and white? smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #65
Sometimes things work out for the best. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2017 #24
no, there is nothing "best" about what happened. even if/when trump is brought down JI7 Jun 2017 #31
No, it wouldn't have. And I don't get how millions of people losing their health insurance and dying lunamagica Jun 2017 #38
It was a no win situation Cosmocat Jun 2017 #39
Literally? Explain, please. Demit Jun 2017 #40
That us what I was afraid of, too. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2017 #46
Her win would have made the GOP stronger. Now everything is being brought out into Dream Girl Jun 2017 #62
People said thty about W. And we know how that went lunamagica Jun 2017 #83
Right Cosmocat Jun 2017 #97
I could not agree more with your first two paragraphs. janx Jun 2017 #99
Yep Cosmocat Jun 2017 #115
Not everyone. And definitely not the entirety of. Solly Mack Jun 2017 #26
Good post. Thank you. cwydro Jun 2017 #51
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend... but they can be useful. Solly Mack Jun 2017 #61
It's disgusting lunamagica Jun 2017 #35
Because he's "On our side now!" Oneironaut Jun 2017 #41
Do you believe there is such a thing as obstruction of justice? - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #52
Yes, but Comey has nothing. Oneironaut Jun 2017 #57
That must be why Time Magazine's current cover features the KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #58
Do you really think Trump cares? Oneironaut Jun 2017 #60
Thank you. cwydro Jun 2017 #86
No ... not at all ... he's stupid (has bad judgment) but he's more credible than D2 Scooops YCHDT Jun 2017 #48
Agree. He's getting off on being sanctimonious Bucky Jun 2017 #98
Fun to be with? Who cares about that? apcalc Jun 2017 #28
exactly jodymarie aimee Jun 2017 #45
Doesn't strike me that way at all oberliner Jun 2017 #30
How else do you describe his decision to share his personal assessment.... LAS14 Jun 2017 #42
Poor judgement oberliner Jun 2017 #50
I guess you missed Comey's testimony last week as he had several moment of humor beachbum bob Jun 2017 #36
Moments of humor isn't enough to make me want to share a beer. LAS14 Jun 2017 #43
Very smart people are often very funny, too. mnhtnbb Jun 2017 #49
Comey is a prick but a honest prick Gothmog Jun 2017 #54
I thought he came off as sincere during his testimony - he must really be hating Trumps guts womanofthehills Jun 2017 #55
He looks like he would lecture not necessarily bust you for smoking a joint. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #56
IDGAF about his demeanor or personality... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #59
He's a slimy POS and he is not on our side! SecularMotion Jun 2017 #63
Get a few drinks in him and -- wowza mainer Jun 2017 #70
Trump's so lucky that he wasn't fucking around with J. Edgar. no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 #76
Something about that position seems to encourage delusions of power. ucrdem Jun 2017 #84
You are really only seeing his professional side. There is no FSogol Jun 2017 #94
This man is the reason we DON'T have President Clinton. Tatiana Jun 2017 #100
I utterly blame Comey for his grandstanding speech which exonerated Hillary. I don't blame him writes3000 Jun 2017 #101
I agree on all points. nt LAS14 Jun 2017 #117
He strikes me as someone who take his professionalism seriously lovemydogs Jun 2017 #103
After what he did before the election I don trust him at all!! Wiseman32218 Jun 2017 #104
I wouldn't want to go mountain biking with Nancy Pelosi either Kentonio Jun 2017 #112
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. He's a coward by his own admission.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 04:52 AM
Jun 2017

Yuck.

You admire Comey?

I can't find the puke emoticon, but anyone who admires Comey is fucked up.

Professional? Yeah, a professional weasel.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. He has behaved professionally, in this, in my estimation.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 05:08 AM
Jun 2017

In what seem to have been some decidedly unorthodox circumstances.

That's my opinion, so sue me.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Really?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 05:23 AM
Jun 2017

Didn't say a damn thing till he got fired.

Lmao you think that is "professional"

He is a scum and a coward.

He plays both ends against the middle, so yep, professional in that.

Yuck. He makes me sick. He and the shitgibbon are two sides of the same coin.

Sickened by the Comey love on this board.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. Until he was fired he was subject to the constraints of the position and the situation.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:28 AM
Jun 2017

Sure, I know we all could run the FBI way better.

LisaM

(27,832 posts)
102. But he wasn't subject to those constraints in July and October?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:57 PM
Jun 2017

Don't get me wrong, I will be thrilled if he brings Trump down, but nothing about this should make any American voter happy.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
37. "Sickened by the Comey love on this board"
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:08 AM
Jun 2017

Really? Aw gee, then, consider that you are always free to leave.

emulatorloo

(44,186 posts)
53. He was a credible witness. White House is doing a great job smearing him
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:16 AM
Jun 2017

Don't think they need any additional help.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
64. There is absolutely NO comparison between Comey and Trump and if you think
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jun 2017

so then you really haven't been paying attention at all.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
66. You're entitled...
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

...to your opinion. And everyone else is entitled to theirs.

What's fucked up is someone insisting others are fucked up for admiring a man who just put his ass on the line to be sued (whether or not Trump even remotely has an actual, legal case, he'll still drag it out in court with Comey as long as he can which could be a very large financial burden on Comey. Trump's been doing that for years to people.)

By the way, just because someone admires a man who purposely released a memo to get a special prosecutor assigned to our national nightmare does not mean we have "love" for him. We can respect his actions now and still despise his actions pre-election. We can judge by the character of the man in the moment and right now, Comey (and Mueller) is all we've got between America as we know it and the end of democracy.

So, instead of trying to find a puke emoticon, I'd suggest you grow up.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
68. And what would he have accomplished by confronting DT? NOTHING.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jun 2017

He was very smart about the way he handled this. He gave DT enough rope to hang himself.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029180560

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
32. "Anyone who admires Comey is fucked up"?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:55 AM
Jun 2017

So are the judgemental who can only think in black and white.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
67. Yeah, a coward -- just like a woman who is being sexually harassed
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

and decides not to confront her employer about it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
73. No comparison there.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jun 2017

He's a 6 foot plus man. Amazing that some compare him to our experience as women.

Smh

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
75. His height had nothing to do with it. His relative lack of power is the key.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jun 2017

He didn't want to lose his job -- and with it the chance to continue the investigation.

In that sense he's like every person, man or woman, who hasn't stood up to an employer because he or she wanted to keep a job.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
77. Bull fucking shit.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jun 2017

The head of the FBI?

Seriously?

You have completely lost the plot if you compare this man to women who have been sexually harassed.

But go in with your Comey love. I won't even engage with someone who thinks the shitgibbon's pressure on Comey is in ANY way comparable to sexual harassment.

Ugh. You are all kinds of wrong here.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
79. Yeah his "lack of power"
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jun 2017

allowed him to testify in front of congress.

Do you even believe this nonsense that you're posting?

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
80. He testified AFTER he got fired. Before he got fired, the President
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:17 PM
Jun 2017

could have claimed Executive Privilege and ordered him not to testify..

Response to pnwmom (Reply #80)

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
87. You're being blinded by Comey's height and gender.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jun 2017

But he was in the same imbalance of power vis a vis Trump that any woman is with regard to the person who could fire her.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
74. I'm a woman who has been sexually harassed.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jun 2017

Amazing you compare this man to any of us.

Fuck that.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
78. So am I. And so are millions of women who agreed with me.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jun 2017

Like the writers in USA Today, Newsweek, HuffingtonPost, the New York Times, the LA times, and many more.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/09/james-comey-gretchen-carlson-both-found-way-alicia-shepard-column/102667250/

Now James Comey knows how women feel when the boss harasses them
Like Gretchen Carlson and many others, he was stunned, anxious and unsure what to do

http://www.newsweek.com/james-comey-donald-trump-workplace-harassment-russia-investigation-623949

WHY COMEY'S TESTIMONY AGAINST TRUMP IS LIKE LISTENING TO SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-comey-testimony-why-the-rhetoric-sounded-so-familiar-to-women_us_59397732e4b006105480817e

Why The Rhetoric Used To Question Comey Sounded So Familiar To Women
“You said... ‘I don’t want to be in the room with him alone again,’ but you continued to talk to him on the phone.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/james-comey-and-the-predator-in-chief.html

As I listened to James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, tell the Senate Intelligence Committee about his personal meetings and phone calls with President Trump, I was reminded of something: the experience of a woman being harassed by her powerful, predatory boss. There was precisely that sinister air of coercion, of an employee helpless to avoid unsavory contact with an employer who is trying to grab what he wants.

http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-abcarian-comey-women-20170607-story.html

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
81. Utter effing nonsense.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jun 2017

I don't think I got to testify in front of congress.

How you fucking DARE to compare this asswipe to women. Nor do I care about any of your "sources" who compare a DIRECTOR of the FBI to another of us in regular life.

God, I hope you're not a woman.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
85. I am a woman, and so are all those writers who wrote the pieces
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jun 2017

you disagree with.

It's clear that your mind is so closed to this you didn't read any of these women wrote about Comey, Trump, and their own similar experiences.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
88. I'm amazed you see this as similar or comparable.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jun 2017

Goodbye now.

Go weep for poor Comey.

Pathetic.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
89. I'm not feeling sorry for Comey. I think he'll be just fine.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:33 PM
Jun 2017

And that his testimony -- and the leaking that led to Mueller's appointment -- will help ensure that DT goes down.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
91. Happy to see the shitgibbon go down.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jun 2017

But this tripe about Comey being comparable to a sexually harassed woman is fucking bullshit.

People being afraid of losing their jobs is nothing new. And is COMPLETELY different from sexual discrimination/harassment.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
105. I admire Comey
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:15 PM
Jun 2017

And I have no idea why anyone here would be concerned with your assessment of their character. Cheers.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
106. a total professional who helped to install Trump into the White House
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 01:07 AM
Jun 2017

when he KNEW Trump was under investigation for COLLUDING WITH A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO INFLUENCE AN ELECTION

WTF kind of professional is that?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
109. I don't think we know the whole story. If and when we do, it's entirely possible that
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 04:00 AM
Jun 2017

Comey will come out of it looking like a villain. Totally possible.

But the one thread that seems to define the man's career arc is at least the attempt to do the right, or legally proper, thing without consideration of politics. If you remember, part of the reason Obama picked Comey in the first place, was Comey's standing up to Gonzales when Ashcroft was in the hospital and they were trying to use that to drive through approval for Bush's spying program.

Now, no, I don't think he should have released that stuff about Weiner's laptop 8 days out from the election. Didn't then, still don't. But I do think it has become clear that there was more shit circulating than we knew about at the time. Part of it may have been a desire to avoid being pegged as giving Hillary a partisan "pass" while looking ahead to the possibility of a much bigger, serious investigation into Trump turning into the major deal it appears it quite well may be. And remember, we all thought she was going to win. I'm just speculating, here.

Like I said, if and when we have all the facts and look back on it, we might go "fucking Comey, he was completely unfair and made these judgment calls that were way off base"... but right now I still don't think we know all the details.

I will say, that the big unforced error around the Clinton campaign back then (leaving aside the stupid and unnecessary server shit) was Bill Clinton meeting with Lynch on the tarmac, which led directly to her having to recuse herself. That was a goof move by someone who is certainly smart and informed enough to know better, and if it weren't for that imagine all the shit that could have been avoided.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
111. Like I said, I don't think we know the whole story.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 04:38 AM
Jun 2017

But the tarmac meeting was a total unforced error, which, had it been avoided, could have bypassed a whole world of noise.

Solomon

(12,319 posts)
113. I wish people would get off this tarmac excuse. Comey didn't have to do a damned thing about the
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 05:59 AM
Jun 2017

tarmac meeting. Put the kool aid down. Nobody asked him to "save civilization" by shitting on Hillary because Bill saw Loretta on a tarmac. That was his warped decision.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
114. It's not an excuse. Lynch made the decision herself, remember?
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:19 AM
Jun 2017

It was a stupid move on BC's part. Totally fucking stupid and unnecessary, and he should have known better. I voted for the guy twice, I even defended him after he ridiculously waved his finger at the American people about "I did not..." when he obviously did- because I didn't think the GOP had any business going through his underwear drawer at Taxpayer expense.

but the tarmac thing was just plain stupid. And it FORCED LL to take herself out of the equation, thereby shunting it off to Comey. It wasn't Comey's call.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,712 posts)
2. I'm not so sure about this.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:06 AM
Jun 2017

He showed a sense of humor (sort of) during the hearing. Self-deprecatory sort of thing.

I think that's a mark of a person with a sense of humor. I'll bet when he relaxes, he's a lot more fun than when he's in front of a raft of Senators!

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
5. I really don't care how Comey behaves in his private life.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:12 AM
Jun 2017

I'd rather let him have his privacy and appreciate what he's done to Trumpy.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
33. More to the point, how could it possibly matter?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:59 AM
Jun 2017

No one has to have a beer with him for him to do his job.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
3. It's been my experience that people who seem stuffy and humorless in public
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:06 AM
Jun 2017

sometimes are a lot of fun in private. But even if he's a stuffed shirt all the time, I'd rather be stuck in an elevator with Comey than with Trump.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
90. I frequently hear the same about Hillary Clinton, too.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jun 2017

Like Gore, most people don't get to see that side of her, either.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
92. Yes, indeed. She is criticized for laughing or smiling, and then for not laughing or smiling.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jun 2017

That double bind criticism reminds me of the way she always was criticized for her legs and her choice of skirts, dresses, and tops, and then criticized for choosing her own feminized (especially by color!) version of the standard male business suit.

Our people, especially the women, but really, all of them, get shredded by the RW echo chamber no matter what they do, but then our "leadership" and our rank and file voters and foot soldiers just run away rather than offering full throated support (unlike the RW, which supports their own, no matter what).

As a result, our candidates, like Gore and Hillary, get frozen into a defensive crouch (as Hillary did), which is then interpreted as deceit or lack of charisma, or they become easily stampeded, as Gore was during the 2000 campaign, when he kept switching up his self-presentation and when he ran away from Bill Clinton's record.

dweller

(23,662 posts)
7. he seems like a guy I would enjoy having a beer with
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:19 AM
Jun 2017

and a conversation ... he strikes me as highly intelligent, intuitive, honest ... all qualities I admire in a person

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
9. Karma would certainly be served if Comey takes Trump out of office...after putting him in it.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:44 AM
Jun 2017

I just can't see Comey as righteous. Self-righteous yes. Righteous? No.

His Hatch Act violating October 28 letter plainly cost Hillary the election.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
19. yup, i had a bad feeling after this broke. and how the media was reporting it
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 04:47 AM
Jun 2017

most people don't pay attention to all the details and facts. they just look at headlines. and the media was treating it as if it was some huge serious issue . and at the same time they were saying trump was being presidential because he wasn't using twitter as much.

Quixote1818

(28,976 posts)
12. The most revealing part was when Feinstein asked him why he didn't tell Trump it was inappropriate
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:01 AM
Jun 2017

He so calmly and with humility admitted in the most sincere way that he kind of wished he would have handled it better. I never got the sense he was embellishing or anything, everything was a straight up candid down to earth answer. He very much seems like someone I would enjoy talking to and could respect.
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
29. Feinstein was being disingenuous. Tell me one subordinate anywhere who would say that to
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:34 AM
Jun 2017

his or her boss.

"Now, Mr. President, you are pretty much obstructing justice here! That's a big no-no!"

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
72. I didn't read it that way
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jun 2017

I'm actually relieved she asked the question. It would have been asked in the media afterwards if she'd not put it out there anyway. Instead, she gave him the opportunity to answer in real time and subsequently, he showed his character and integrity.

IMO, Comey is honorable. He's also human. And at no time in his testimony did he reveal this more than when answering her question.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
34. Yes, he looked very sorrowful.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:01 AM
Jun 2017

I figured out how to do that as a kid. In fact, that's what the justice system rewards, when you show remorse.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. He is scum.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 04:41 AM
Jun 2017

He fucked the election.

Can't believe the Comey kissing posts I'm reading here lately.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
17. i agree, he is a jackass and typical sexist asshole
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 04:43 AM
Jun 2017

but he is the only type that could probably help bring down trump.

if someone else was in his place who was non white and/or female with the exact same facts/background the republicans along with the media help would destroy them.

dmr

(28,349 posts)
23. I was, and still am, disgusted and angry at him over that, and yet
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 05:58 AM
Jun 2017

I could never call him scum.

The other day, at the hearing, he was asked if after time to reflect would he do anything differently, he said no. I don't understand that. So, it still disgusts me.

But I still wouldn't call him scum. It's just hard to square that huge misjudgement with his other good qualities. He did good under Bush* and is doing good now.

I've thought long and hard over this because of his actions &
reasonings (July press conference & the October letter to Congress) have truly puzzled me.

But everything isn't always black and white.

I think a lot of people think the same way. So, the "kissing posts" you speak of are not DU'ers being wishy-washy, it is just a sign of relief there is someone with law enforcement credibility standing up and speaking out against someone who is truly slimy scum and a whole lot worse.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
47. Good post.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:58 AM
Jun 2017

I still think he's as bad as the shitgibbon.

He only spoke up when he got fired.

If he'd done so earlier, I might have some respect.

I'll never forget what he did to Hillary.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
65. Do you see shades of gray or only black and white?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jun 2017

If you think he and Trump are cut from the same cloth, you are a very poor judge of character.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
24. Sometimes things work out for the best.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:08 AM
Jun 2017

I think this awful congress would have destroyed Hillary. Now it looks like Trump and the Congress are going down together. They are all just a bunch if crooks that don't care one whit about this country.

I love Hillary but I just don't think one even very strong woman could have beaten these awful, evil men.

Now the very best of the best law enforcement guys are going after them. And Trump made that possible because he is such a gross ,crooked ,stupid man.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
31. no, there is nothing "best" about what happened. even if/when trump is brought down
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:49 AM
Jun 2017

and your post is very sexist.

need strong law enforcement to do the job a woman can't ????????????

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
38. No, it wouldn't have. And I don't get how millions of people losing their health insurance and dying
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:09 AM
Jun 2017

because of it, families torn-apart, the destruction of our planet is "working with the best"

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
39. It was a no win situation
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:21 AM
Jun 2017

People don't get how awful it would have been had she won - and before anyone twists what I am posting, she would have been a damn good potus.

But, the decades of slander including the campaign that deadened the minds of the people of thus country, the anger toward her was so great within their base, and the "middle third" was so tainted, they would just be slamming her now . ..

And people don't get it, but someone literally was going to end up getting killed if she had tried to seat a scj.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
46. That us what I was afraid of, too.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:50 AM
Jun 2017

These guys are just evil.

I felt the same way with Bush when it was Cheney and Rumsfelt and Rove. I wondered how such awful men could gave all found each other.

But these guys are way, way worse.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
62. Her win would have made the GOP stronger. Now everything is being brought out into
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:02 PM
Jun 2017

The open. Ultimately, the truth will be known and their complicity will be obvious. There is going to be a whole lot of pain and suffering before that happened. But after this is over I don't think people will be so complacent. Those folks who stayed home or voted third party are now painfully aware of their role in this debacle. Hell, maybe some of those "white working class racists" will start to figure out how they have been twisted and manipulated with hate and fear to their detriment through the years, though I wouldn't bet on that.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
97. Right
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jun 2017

BEST case scenario is the country wtf and tuned in, but as you note, they drag us 5 steps into the rat hole, we might dig out 2 or 3 steps, but they rebound, the country gives them power and they drag us 5 steps further into the rat hole ...

janx

(24,128 posts)
99. I could not agree more with your first two paragraphs.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jun 2017

Right-wing infotainment did its job for decades, maybe 25 years, to such an extent that a whole lot of people were completely misinformed. And that is the main reason she lost the election.

It is a sad fact of life how gullible people are.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
115. Yep
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 07:32 AM
Jun 2017

When 45 came down the escalator 2 years ago, I told people 2 things.

1) He was a VERY serious threat to win the nomination, because he embodied all that the republican party had devolved into.

2) I hoped not, but the country absolutely was stupid enough to make him POTUS.

People have short memories, they want to think the suspension from reality started with him. But, republicans have been brain washing this country for a LONG damn time now, it started as a milder form, the bullshit about "states rights" they pretty sounding talking points in the 90s that were pretty clearly bullshit, but hard to debate.

But they repeated them so often, they became reality TO THEM. All of it building around the surity of their riteousness, that the ends justified any means because they were the god loving true patriots.

By the time BHO got elected, they just gave up even trying to bullshit, they just flat out made shit up and screamed at the top of their lungs - BENGAZI!

This hole is so much deeper than most can not grasp.

We truly are in a post facts/reality world.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
26. Not everyone. And definitely not the entirety of.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 06:28 AM
Jun 2017

I don't.

I do find his demeanor to be glomming onto the self-righteous.

His whole Aw shucks, Jimmy Stewart - in character - benign affability is misleading. Some would call his performance before Congress professional but I sensed an unpleasant undertone not to my liking.

But I enjoy his battle with Trump and I am rooting for Comey in that. I do think Trump tried to bully Comey and I think Comey proved that in his testimony. If Comey were to fade away after all is said and done, I wouldn't miss him.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
61. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend... but they can be useful.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jun 2017

Sometimes.

Comey is a conservative; a Reagan Republican. Just think of it as members of the GOP eating their own.

If they want to fight each other - I'm not playing peacekeeper.

It's understandable for people to attribute positive qualities to Comey - that he may or may not have - in the Comey v. Trump battle.

The understandable part being because it's Trump.

It's a fairly safe assumption that Trump is lying (as usual) and Comey is telling the truth about Trump.

But, yeah, fawning over a conservative/Reagan republican is more than a little icky.

I live in the same country with them but I'm not breaking bread with them.



Oneironaut

(5,524 posts)
41. Because he's "On our side now!"
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:37 AM
Jun 2017

Liberals seem to have the delusional idea that Comey is going to bring Trump down. He's a bs artist and attention whore, just like Trump. Everything was fine and dandy with the orange buffoon until Trump fired him.

Comey plays both sides of the fence. This is all about him and his ego, not about the country. The sudden Liberal love of Comey is a stunning display of hypocrisy.

Oneironaut

(5,524 posts)
57. Yes, but Comey has nothing.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:57 AM
Jun 2017

His entire testimony was a ridiculous waste of time. He's a megalomaniac and is not on our side.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
58. That must be why Time Magazine's current cover features the
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jun 2017

headline "Liar in Chief" super-imposed over a picture of Trump.

Oneironaut

(5,524 posts)
60. Do you really think Trump cares?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

The only thing that matters to him is avoiding prosecution. He can't be shamed. If anything, he loves being "infamous."

He's a liar. He knows it, and he knows we all know it. He couldn't give less of a shit what we think.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
98. Agree. He's getting off on being sanctimonious
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jun 2017

He's a dilettante. A prima donna.

He might be the right person to complicate Donald Trump's life. And I'm happy for that. But I have approximately zero hero-worship for this guy. He politicized the 2016 election and gave us Donald Trump. The least he can do is help clean up the mess

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
42. How else do you describe his decision to share his personal assessment....
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jun 2017

... of Clinton's legal behavior with the world in the context of his FBI role?

mnhtnbb

(31,405 posts)
49. Very smart people are often very funny, too.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:06 AM
Jun 2017

Between Comey and Trump, there's no contest on which is smarter.

Then there are the people who THINK they're very smart and often are among the most boorish people
you'll ever encounter.

womanofthehills

(8,771 posts)
55. I thought he came off as sincere during his testimony - he must really be hating Trumps guts
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jun 2017

after what Trump did to him - calling him a "nut job", finding out he was fired on the TV, Trump saying FBI was a mess, etc. CNN just came out with some Comey fast facts:

James Comey Fast Facts -

In 1977, Comey and his younger brother were held at gunpoint in their parents' home by a man suspected of a series of rapes in the area.

Comey has worked on or overseen a number of high-profile cases as a US attorney and FBI director, including the prosecution of Martha Stewart in the ImClone stock trading case, the investigations into the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia and of CIA Director David Petraeus for passing confidential information to his lover.

As a US Attorney, Comey created a unit devoted to prosecuting international drug cartels.

In college, he majored in chemistry and religion, and wrote a thesis comparing the theologian Reinhold Niebuhr to the televangelist Jerry Falwell.

Comey and his wife, Patrice, have served as foster parents. (They had 6 kids - 5 are alive)

Comey is six feet eight inches tall.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/us/james-comey-fast-facts/index.html

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
56. He looks like he would lecture not necessarily bust you for smoking a joint.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

That being said his moral compass isn't broken unlike Trump's.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
59. IDGAF about his demeanor or personality...
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jun 2017

If he is instrumental in the downfall of Trump, I'll root for that. This isn't sports, but much like I'll root for a rich asshole if he helps my team win, I'll root for Comey to help take Trump and his evil cabal down. I don't expect I'll be having a beer with either of them after the game is done.

More internet superlatives here. It's the "fer us ar agin us" thinking that exacerbates all of this crap. Show a little nuance.

mainer

(12,029 posts)
70. Get a few drinks in him and -- wowza
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:49 PM
Jun 2017

Can't help wondering what happens when a guy like that really lets loose.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
84. Something about that position seems to encourage delusions of power.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jun 2017

I thought he was grossly disrespectful of President Obama and did what he pleased without regard to law or decency, not just in the email nonsense either. So I'm not surprised Trump fired him. Doesn't make either of them a hero though. More like one bully taking out another.

FSogol

(45,527 posts)
94. You are really only seeing his professional side. There is no
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jun 2017

indication he's like that at home or off the clock.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
100. This man is the reason we DON'T have President Clinton.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:48 PM
Jun 2017

Yes, we can use him for our purposes now, but NEVER FORGET, he shares the most blame for all the turmoil the world is experiencing because of Trump as SCROTUS.

His sanctimonious arrogance and flair for the dramatic cost us bigly.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
101. I utterly blame Comey for his grandstanding speech which exonerated Hillary. I don't blame him
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 09:51 PM
Jun 2017

For the letter he sent to Chaffetz. I agree with him that he had to send the letter. If he didn't send the letter, rogue FBI agents would have leaked it to the press and all hell would have broken loose. It would have been a BIGGER story then.

But that first press conference he gave? Terrible. Wrong. Horrible.

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
103. He strikes me as someone who take his professionalism seriously
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 10:02 PM
Jun 2017

He has a deep sense of honor or honesty.

I am not sure if he would be fun. He may be with very close friends. But, does not have a large circle or is Mr. fun with many people. Very private and responsible

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
112. I wouldn't want to go mountain biking with Nancy Pelosi either
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 05:51 AM
Jun 2017

But I'm not sure how its relevant.

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