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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsComey strikes me as a self-righteous person who wouldn't be fun to be with.
And I'm just tickled pink that he's the one that Donny thought he could co-opt. They are absolute polar opposites. Comey may be self-righteous, but he's also pretty righteous. GO JIM!!!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Yuck.
You admire Comey?
I can't find the puke emoticon, but anyone who admires Comey is fucked up.
Professional? Yeah, a professional weasel.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)In what seem to have been some decidedly unorthodox circumstances.
That's my opinion, so sue me.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Didn't say a damn thing till he got fired.
Lmao you think that is "professional"
He is a scum and a coward.
He plays both ends against the middle, so yep, professional in that.
Yuck. He makes me sick. He and the shitgibbon are two sides of the same coin.
Sickened by the Comey love on this board.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Sure, I know we all could run the FBI way better.
LisaM
(27,832 posts)Don't get me wrong, I will be thrilled if he brings Trump down, but nothing about this should make any American voter happy.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Really? Aw gee, then, consider that you are always free to leave.
Lmao at the Comey lovers here.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)That's deep.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Bye now.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Try not to confuse quantity with quality.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)Don't think they need any additional help.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)so then you really haven't been paying attention at all.
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)...to your opinion. And everyone else is entitled to theirs.
What's fucked up is someone insisting others are fucked up for admiring a man who just put his ass on the line to be sued (whether or not Trump even remotely has an actual, legal case, he'll still drag it out in court with Comey as long as he can which could be a very large financial burden on Comey. Trump's been doing that for years to people.)
By the way, just because someone admires a man who purposely released a memo to get a special prosecutor assigned to our national nightmare does not mean we have "love" for him. We can respect his actions now and still despise his actions pre-election. We can judge by the character of the man in the moment and right now, Comey (and Mueller) is all we've got between America as we know it and the end of democracy.
So, instead of trying to find a puke emoticon, I'd suggest you grow up.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)He was very smart about the way he handled this. He gave DT enough rope to hang himself.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029180560
whathehell
(29,094 posts)So are the judgemental who can only think in black and white.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)and decides not to confront her employer about it.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He's a 6 foot plus man. Amazing that some compare him to our experience as women.
Smh
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)He didn't want to lose his job -- and with it the chance to continue the investigation.
In that sense he's like every person, man or woman, who hasn't stood up to an employer because he or she wanted to keep a job.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)The head of the FBI?
Seriously?
You have completely lost the plot if you compare this man to women who have been sexually harassed.
But go in with your Comey love. I won't even engage with someone who thinks the shitgibbon's pressure on Comey is in ANY way comparable to sexual harassment.
Ugh. You are all kinds of wrong here.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)allowed him to testify in front of congress.
Do you even believe this nonsense that you're posting?
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)could have claimed Executive Privilege and ordered him not to testify..
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pnwmom
(108,995 posts)But he was in the same imbalance of power vis a vis Trump that any woman is with regard to the person who could fire her.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Amazing you compare this man to any of us.
Fuck that.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)Like the writers in USA Today, Newsweek, HuffingtonPost, the New York Times, the LA times, and many more.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/09/james-comey-gretchen-carlson-both-found-way-alicia-shepard-column/102667250/
Now James Comey knows how women feel when the boss harasses them
Like Gretchen Carlson and many others, he was stunned, anxious and unsure what to do
http://www.newsweek.com/james-comey-donald-trump-workplace-harassment-russia-investigation-623949
WHY COMEY'S TESTIMONY AGAINST TRUMP IS LIKE LISTENING TO SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-comey-testimony-why-the-rhetoric-sounded-so-familiar-to-women_us_59397732e4b006105480817e
Why The Rhetoric Used To Question Comey Sounded So Familiar To Women
You said... I dont want to be in the room with him alone again, but you continued to talk to him on the phone.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/james-comey-and-the-predator-in-chief.html
As I listened to James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, tell the Senate Intelligence Committee about his personal meetings and phone calls with President Trump, I was reminded of something: the experience of a woman being harassed by her powerful, predatory boss. There was precisely that sinister air of coercion, of an employee helpless to avoid unsavory contact with an employer who is trying to grab what he wants.
http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-abcarian-comey-women-20170607-story.html
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I don't think I got to testify in front of congress.
How you fucking DARE to compare this asswipe to women. Nor do I care about any of your "sources" who compare a DIRECTOR of the FBI to another of us in regular life.
God, I hope you're not a woman.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)you disagree with.
It's clear that your mind is so closed to this you didn't read any of these women wrote about Comey, Trump, and their own similar experiences.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Goodbye now.
Go weep for poor Comey.
Pathetic.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)And that his testimony -- and the leaking that led to Mueller's appointment -- will help ensure that DT goes down.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But this tripe about Comey being comparable to a sexually harassed woman is fucking bullshit.
People being afraid of losing their jobs is nothing new. And is COMPLETELY different from sexual discrimination/harassment.
Whatever.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)And I have no idea why anyone here would be concerned with your assessment of their character. Cheers.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You are spot on.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)YW
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)when he KNEW Trump was under investigation for COLLUDING WITH A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO INFLUENCE AN ELECTION
WTF kind of professional is that?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Comey will come out of it looking like a villain. Totally possible.
But the one thread that seems to define the man's career arc is at least the attempt to do the right, or legally proper, thing without consideration of politics. If you remember, part of the reason Obama picked Comey in the first place, was Comey's standing up to Gonzales when Ashcroft was in the hospital and they were trying to use that to drive through approval for Bush's spying program.
Now, no, I don't think he should have released that stuff about Weiner's laptop 8 days out from the election. Didn't then, still don't. But I do think it has become clear that there was more shit circulating than we knew about at the time. Part of it may have been a desire to avoid being pegged as giving Hillary a partisan "pass" while looking ahead to the possibility of a much bigger, serious investigation into Trump turning into the major deal it appears it quite well may be. And remember, we all thought she was going to win. I'm just speculating, here.
Like I said, if and when we have all the facts and look back on it, we might go "fucking Comey, he was completely unfair and made these judgment calls that were way off base"... but right now I still don't think we know all the details.
I will say, that the big unforced error around the Clinton campaign back then (leaving aside the stupid and unnecessary server shit) was Bill Clinton meeting with Lynch on the tarmac, which led directly to her having to recuse herself. That was a goof move by someone who is certainly smart and informed enough to know better, and if it weren't for that imagine all the shit that could have been avoided.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)fuck that shit
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But the tarmac meeting was a total unforced error, which, had it been avoided, could have bypassed a whole world of noise.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)tarmac meeting. Put the kool aid down. Nobody asked him to "save civilization" by shitting on Hillary because Bill saw Loretta on a tarmac. That was his warped decision.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It was a stupid move on BC's part. Totally fucking stupid and unnecessary, and he should have known better. I voted for the guy twice, I even defended him after he ridiculously waved his finger at the American people about "I did not..." when he obviously did- because I didn't think the GOP had any business going through his underwear drawer at Taxpayer expense.
but the tarmac thing was just plain stupid. And it FORCED LL to take herself out of the equation, thereby shunting it off to Comey. It wasn't Comey's call.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,712 posts)He showed a sense of humor (sort of) during the hearing. Self-deprecatory sort of thing.
I think that's a mark of a person with a sense of humor. I'll bet when he relaxes, he's a lot more fun than when he's in front of a raft of Senators!
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)I'd rather let him have his privacy and appreciate what he's done to Trumpy.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)No one has to have a beer with him for him to do his job.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)sometimes are a lot of fun in private. But even if he's a stuffed shirt all the time, I'd rather be stuck in an elevator with Comey than with Trump.
monmouth4
(9,710 posts)malaise
(269,173 posts)I know a few folks like that
FenwayDonkey
(68 posts)tblue37
(65,488 posts)is hilarious.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Like Gore, most people don't get to see that side of her, either.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)That double bind criticism reminds me of the way she always was criticized for her legs and her choice of skirts, dresses, and tops, and then criticized for choosing her own feminized (especially by color!) version of the standard male business suit.
Our people, especially the women, but really, all of them, get shredded by the RW echo chamber no matter what they do, but then our "leadership" and our rank and file voters and foot soldiers just run away rather than offering full throated support (unlike the RW, which supports their own, no matter what).
As a result, our candidates, like Gore and Hillary, get frozen into a defensive crouch (as Hillary did), which is then interpreted as deceit or lack of charisma, or they become easily stampeded, as Gore was during the 2000 campaign, when he kept switching up his self-presentation and when he ran away from Bill Clinton's record.
JI7
(89,271 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)dweller
(23,662 posts)and a conversation ... he strikes me as highly intelligent, intuitive, honest ... all qualities I admire in a person
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)SunSeeker
(51,715 posts)I just can't see Comey as righteous. Self-righteous yes. Righteous? No.
His Hatch Act violating October 28 letter plainly cost Hillary the election.
JI7
(89,271 posts)most people don't pay attention to all the details and facts. they just look at headlines. and the media was treating it as if it was some huge serious issue . and at the same time they were saying trump was being presidential because he wasn't using twitter as much.
cilla4progress
(24,772 posts)boy. Just the way he moves.
Quixote1818
(28,976 posts)He so calmly and with humility admitted in the most sincere way that he kind of wished he would have handled it better. I never got the sense he was embellishing or anything, everything was a straight up candid down to earth answer. He very much seems like someone I would enjoy talking to and could respect.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)his or her boss.
"Now, Mr. President, you are pretty much obstructing justice here! That's a big no-no!"
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)I'm actually relieved she asked the question. It would have been asked in the media afterwards if she'd not put it out there anyway. Instead, she gave him the opportunity to answer in real time and subsequently, he showed his character and integrity.
IMO, Comey is honorable. He's also human. And at no time in his testimony did he reveal this more than when answering her question.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I figured out how to do that as a kid. In fact, that's what the justice system rewards, when you show remorse.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ugh.
How fucked up is that?
JI7
(89,271 posts)He fucked the election.
Can't believe the Comey kissing posts I'm reading here lately.
JI7
(89,271 posts)but he is the only type that could probably help bring down trump.
if someone else was in his place who was non white and/or female with the exact same facts/background the republicans along with the media help would destroy them.
dmr
(28,349 posts)I could never call him scum.
The other day, at the hearing, he was asked if after time to reflect would he do anything differently, he said no. I don't understand that. So, it still disgusts me.
But I still wouldn't call him scum. It's just hard to square that huge misjudgement with his other good qualities. He did good under Bush* and is doing good now.
I've thought long and hard over this because of his actions &
reasonings (July press conference & the October letter to Congress) have truly puzzled me.
But everything isn't always black and white.
I think a lot of people think the same way. So, the "kissing posts" you speak of are not DU'ers being wishy-washy, it is just a sign of relief there is someone with law enforcement credibility standing up and speaking out against someone who is truly slimy scum and a whole lot worse.
I still think he's as bad as the shitgibbon.
He only spoke up when he got fired.
If he'd done so earlier, I might have some respect.
I'll never forget what he did to Hillary.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)If you think he and Trump are cut from the same cloth, you are a very poor judge of character.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)I think this awful congress would have destroyed Hillary. Now it looks like Trump and the Congress are going down together. They are all just a bunch if crooks that don't care one whit about this country.
I love Hillary but I just don't think one even very strong woman could have beaten these awful, evil men.
Now the very best of the best law enforcement guys are going after them. And Trump made that possible because he is such a gross ,crooked ,stupid man.
JI7
(89,271 posts)and your post is very sexist.
need strong law enforcement to do the job a woman can't ????????????
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)because of it, families torn-apart, the destruction of our planet is "working with the best"
Cosmocat
(14,574 posts)People don't get how awful it would have been had she won - and before anyone twists what I am posting, she would have been a damn good potus.
But, the decades of slander including the campaign that deadened the minds of the people of thus country, the anger toward her was so great within their base, and the "middle third" was so tainted, they would just be slamming her now . ..
And people don't get it, but someone literally was going to end up getting killed if she had tried to seat a scj.
Demit
(11,238 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)These guys are just evil.
I felt the same way with Bush when it was Cheney and Rumsfelt and Rove. I wondered how such awful men could gave all found each other.
But these guys are way, way worse.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)The open. Ultimately, the truth will be known and their complicity will be obvious. There is going to be a whole lot of pain and suffering before that happened. But after this is over I don't think people will be so complacent. Those folks who stayed home or voted third party are now painfully aware of their role in this debacle. Hell, maybe some of those "white working class racists" will start to figure out how they have been twisted and manipulated with hate and fear to their detriment through the years, though I wouldn't bet on that.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Cosmocat
(14,574 posts)BEST case scenario is the country wtf and tuned in, but as you note, they drag us 5 steps into the rat hole, we might dig out 2 or 3 steps, but they rebound, the country gives them power and they drag us 5 steps further into the rat hole ...
janx
(24,128 posts)Right-wing infotainment did its job for decades, maybe 25 years, to such an extent that a whole lot of people were completely misinformed. And that is the main reason she lost the election.
It is a sad fact of life how gullible people are.
When 45 came down the escalator 2 years ago, I told people 2 things.
1) He was a VERY serious threat to win the nomination, because he embodied all that the republican party had devolved into.
2) I hoped not, but the country absolutely was stupid enough to make him POTUS.
People have short memories, they want to think the suspension from reality started with him. But, republicans have been brain washing this country for a LONG damn time now, it started as a milder form, the bullshit about "states rights" they pretty sounding talking points in the 90s that were pretty clearly bullshit, but hard to debate.
But they repeated them so often, they became reality TO THEM. All of it building around the surity of their riteousness, that the ends justified any means because they were the god loving true patriots.
By the time BHO got elected, they just gave up even trying to bullshit, they just flat out made shit up and screamed at the top of their lungs - BENGAZI!
This hole is so much deeper than most can not grasp.
We truly are in a post facts/reality world.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)I don't.
I do find his demeanor to be glomming onto the self-righteous.
His whole Aw shucks, Jimmy Stewart - in character - benign affability is misleading. Some would call his performance before Congress professional but I sensed an unpleasant undertone not to my liking.
But I enjoy his battle with Trump and I am rooting for Comey in that. I do think Trump tried to bully Comey and I think Comey proved that in his testimony. If Comey were to fade away after all is said and done, I wouldn't miss him.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)It's those fawning over him here who sicken me.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)Sometimes.
Comey is a conservative; a Reagan Republican. Just think of it as members of the GOP eating their own.
If they want to fight each other - I'm not playing peacekeeper.
It's understandable for people to attribute positive qualities to Comey - that he may or may not have - in the Comey v. Trump battle.
The understandable part being because it's Trump.
It's a fairly safe assumption that Trump is lying (as usual) and Comey is telling the truth about Trump.
But, yeah, fawning over a conservative/Reagan republican is more than a little icky.
I live in the same country with them but I'm not breaking bread with them.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)Liberals seem to have the delusional idea that Comey is going to bring Trump down. He's a bs artist and attention whore, just like Trump. Everything was fine and dandy with the orange buffoon until Trump fired him.
Comey plays both sides of the fence. This is all about him and his ego, not about the country. The sudden Liberal love of Comey is a stunning display of hypocrisy.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)His entire testimony was a ridiculous waste of time. He's a megalomaniac and is not on our side.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)headline "Liar in Chief" super-imposed over a picture of Trump.
Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)The only thing that matters to him is avoiding prosecution. He can't be shamed. If anything, he loves being "infamous."
He's a liar. He knows it, and he knows we all know it. He couldn't give less of a shit what we think.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Amazed how stupid people fall for this.
YCHDT
(962 posts)Bucky
(54,068 posts)He's a dilettante. A prima donna.
He might be the right person to complicate Donald Trump's life. And I'm happy for that. But I have approximately zero hero-worship for this guy. He politicized the 2016 election and gave us Donald Trump. The least he can do is help clean up the mess
apcalc
(4,465 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)should we talk about Judge Sirica's necktie, now !!!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Where is this coming from?
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... of Clinton's legal behavior with the world in the context of his FBI role?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Would be my assessment.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,405 posts)Between Comey and Trump, there's no contest on which is smarter.
Then there are the people who THINK they're very smart and often are among the most boorish people
you'll ever encounter.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)womanofthehills
(8,771 posts)after what Trump did to him - calling him a "nut job", finding out he was fired on the TV, Trump saying FBI was a mess, etc. CNN just came out with some Comey fast facts:
James Comey Fast Facts -
Comey has worked on or overseen a number of high-profile cases as a US attorney and FBI director, including the prosecution of Martha Stewart in the ImClone stock trading case, the investigations into the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia and of CIA Director David Petraeus for passing confidential information to his lover.
As a US Attorney, Comey created a unit devoted to prosecuting international drug cartels.
In college, he majored in chemistry and religion, and wrote a thesis comparing the theologian Reinhold Niebuhr to the televangelist Jerry Falwell.
Comey and his wife, Patrice, have served as foster parents. (They had 6 kids - 5 are alive)
Comey is six feet eight inches tall.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/us/james-comey-fast-facts/index.html
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)That being said his moral compass isn't broken unlike Trump's.
Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)If he is instrumental in the downfall of Trump, I'll root for that. This isn't sports, but much like I'll root for a rich asshole if he helps my team win, I'll root for Comey to help take Trump and his evil cabal down. I don't expect I'll be having a beer with either of them after the game is done.
More internet superlatives here. It's the "fer us ar agin us" thinking that exacerbates all of this crap. Show a little nuance.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)mainer
(12,029 posts)Can't help wondering what happens when a guy like that really lets loose.
no_hypocrisy
(46,192 posts)You wanna talk "dossiers"????
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I thought he was grossly disrespectful of President Obama and did what he pleased without regard to law or decency, not just in the email nonsense either. So I'm not surprised Trump fired him. Doesn't make either of them a hero though. More like one bully taking out another.
FSogol
(45,527 posts)indication he's like that at home or off the clock.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Yes, we can use him for our purposes now, but NEVER FORGET, he shares the most blame for all the turmoil the world is experiencing because of Trump as SCROTUS.
His sanctimonious arrogance and flair for the dramatic cost us bigly.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)For the letter he sent to Chaffetz. I agree with him that he had to send the letter. If he didn't send the letter, rogue FBI agents would have leaked it to the press and all hell would have broken loose. It would have been a BIGGER story then.
But that first press conference he gave? Terrible. Wrong. Horrible.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)lovemydogs
(575 posts)He has a deep sense of honor or honesty.
I am not sure if he would be fun. He may be with very close friends. But, does not have a large circle or is Mr. fun with many people. Very private and responsible
Wiseman32218
(291 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)But I'm not sure how its relevant.