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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeorge Will just ripped Trumpsky to shreds.
He says they've done tax reform. No they haven't, he put out a one-page outline.
He says they've done infrastructure. Not they haven't, they've put out an idea with no way to fund it.
Over and over, Will pointed out that Trumpsky has done NOTHING. He just makes speeches.
Wow. Who'd have ever thought I'd agree with George Will?
spanone
(135,886 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)niyad
(113,587 posts)SharonAnn
(13,779 posts)niyad
(113,587 posts)Golden Raisin
(4,614 posts)does not negate the previous 76 years of Will's being a conservative, pompous, bloviating, condescending, full-of-himself, know-it-all blowhard who loved the sound of his own voice lecturing the lowly unwashed.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)He knows Donny, two scoops, is not a conservative, and bringing the Republican Party down in flames.
Right now, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Those type conservatives, never Trumpers, have no media outlet. Thus, MSNBC, CNN
George Will,
David Frum
Jennifer Rubin,
Charlie Sykes,
William Kristol
all conservative never trumps watching the Republican Party and Paul Ryan, going down in flames.
They will be there to pick up the pieces on the Republican Party after the collapse
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)With years of demonizing the Democratic party, and fomenting the myth that it was Republicans that were the most fiscally responsible, and most capable of fighting the war on terror etc...even thought their records failed to support that. George Will was particularly smarmy when talking about any Democrat.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)The outrage by these imbeciles from Bush Senior until the end of Obama was breathtaking.
With no relation to the facts and not being intellectually honest,
they are upset at what came to be after they laid the groundwork that allowed the liar in chief do slip right in to the White House.
The seeds of fake news, inflated opinion of one's righteousness, big money makes might.
It's ironic that it got away from them and Donald Trump slipstreamed right to the White House.
Like Kennedy said: ride the tiger to victory, sure enough, you will end up inside
hibbing
(10,109 posts)The party is far from collapsing. They control the vast majority of statehouses, and with gerrymandering and voter suppression it will be a heavy lift to gain control of either house again.
Peace
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)Republicans have only 8 seats to defend, Democrats have to defend 25, including 10 in states that Trump won. Not losing any ground should be considered a huge victory. If Democrats regain the House - which is a lot more plausible, despite gerrymandering - and pick up 1 seat in the Senate, the media will still say that it was a draw from Trump since Democrats didn't win back both chambers... neglecting the near impossible odds in the Senate.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Democratic control of the House would stop the Republican agenda in its tracks.
MFM008
(19,820 posts)Disgust with the maggot in chief.
We don't know what will happen.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)But when it happens (like a saying I heard the other day about it).
It takes ages to happen, but when it does you say "I can't believe that happened so fast"
in politics, the fastest thing to bring down a ruling party is hubris, when the public sour on you, it happens across the board.
Democrats ran the country from the thirties through the early nineties, before they started pushing far liberal ideas in the late seventies early eighties.
Republicans control a vast amount of state houses and now the middle class know that they are just for the rich, and now maybe the Russians, when it turns it will turn hard.
hibbing
(10,109 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)By the late seventies, Reagan Democrats were sick and tired of everything related to affirmative action.
I'm not arguing the merits the need of such a policy, just the political reality from where elections have consequences.
I remember the Reagan revolution, Willie Horton, Bush Senior, and was part of the "new way" Clinton Democrats.
I spent many years researching why and how Republicans despite being financially irresponsible, deficit monsters, got peoples vote because they were known as something they absolutely weren't.
No good deed goes unpunished in politics, look at Obama care, great idea, what was possible, what got done, and how bad we have been punished.
JI7
(89,276 posts)PJMcK
(22,052 posts)I looked but couldn't find them. Do you have a link?
Thanks.
Atman
(31,464 posts)In the 12:00 hour, I believe.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)George Will and Krauthammer, you are pretty much screwed.
CincyDem
(6,390 posts)...Will and Krauthammer are smart guys. We've disagreed in the past and may in the future but at some level they have the intellectual capability to know burning it all down is not the answer. you can't just be the party of no. I think it was actually Will who said "you can not govern from no".
The problem is that trump's base appears republican but he's tapped into the energy of Lee Atwater's Southern Strategy...whatever bad is happening to white folk...it's minorities to blame. As long as Trump can keep the inertia of blame focused on "the others", it doesn't matter if he loses every republican with a brain.
That's what we're up against.
The biggest error we've made is to believe that the Civil War and eventual Civil Rights Act diminished white supremacy. If anything, it's been stoked.
Must win 2018...must win.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,571 posts)Lee Atwater. You can lay so much of the current hate and chaos right at that wretch's feet.
Did you know he was spinning right to his dying day? Wrote letters to, among others, Dukakis and Turnipseed, both of whom he roasted alive during campaigns. Told them that he had seen the light, as opposed to being blinded by greed and lust for power for so long....yada yada yada. Said he gained great insight and spiritual strength from his conversion to Catholicism and his copy of the Living Bible.
Later, Mary Matalin was one of the people that helped clean up his possessions and whatnot, and said that she found his oh-so-helpful Bible still in its plastic wrapper, never opened.
A lying POS right to the end.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)A woman told him that he had the vote of "every thinking person"
His response was classic Stevenson, "That's not enough, madam, I need a majority!"
DownriverDem
(6,232 posts)During Watergate it was both repubs and Dems that brought down Nixon. The repub loyalty is way stronger now. What will it take for current repubs to do the right thing? If they start praising pence, that will be a good indication that they are leaving trump. pence is a radical religious RWNJ repub. Don't think he'll be better.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)During Watergate, the Democrats controlled the House and Senate
Like Kasich said when he was offered the vice presidency.
You can control the domestic policy, you can control the foreign policy, do you accept the vice presidency.
Kasich: "what will you be doing?"
Donald Trump: "making America great again"
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)He was merely there to get the evangelical vote. Most Republicans are only pretend Christians. Its money they worship. They would be aghast at the idea of that cult having such influence. Wasn't it during Bush's term, when he appointed some evangelical leader to run a new department, and he later complained that fellow Republicans were whispering behind his back calling him and his evangelicals "the crazies"?
Yes here it is:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/14/usa.midterms2006
A former senior presidential aide has accused the Bush administration of using evangelical Christians to win votes but then privately ridiculing them once in office. The allegations by David Kuo, the former deputy director of the White House office of faith-based initiatives, come at a devastating time, when the administration is counting on born-again Christians to vote in sufficient numbers to save the Republicans' hold on Congress in the November elections.
In a book entitled Tempting Faith: an Inside Story of Political Seduction, to be published on Monday, Mr Kuo portrays the Bush White House's commitment to evangelical causes as little more than a cynical facade designed to win votes.
"National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ridiculous, out of control, and just plain goofy," Mr Kuo wrote
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)not until the leaks started adding up and Nixon was heard on tape saying "uh huh" to doing something illegal did Republicans finally start coming out against Nixon.
And, back then, Democrats had larger majorities in both the House & Senate than Republicans have now.
Moral Compass
(1,526 posts)First the Cubs win the World Series and now I often find myself in agreement with George Will. Surely this means the coming of the end of days.
jaxind
(1,074 posts)No wonder at the love-fest cabinet round table, tRUMP said he's done more than any more President ever. He really believes that by signing an executive order or just mentioning an agenda, he really believes that it's passed as legislation! Idiot!!
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)There is this, as well...
"Political commentator George Will in his latest column blasts President Trump as someone who is not able to "think and speak clearly."
"It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trump's inability to do either," Will wrote in The Washington Post.
"This seems to be not a mere disinclination but a disability. It is not merely the result of intellectual sloth but of an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence."
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/331882-george-will-trump-disabled-by-inability-to-think-speak-clearly%3Famp
Will is a conservative.
He knows Trump is nothing more than a carnival barker.
The enemy of the enemy of the Republic is my friend.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)WI'll is very comservative, but a serious person who sees that all these lies need to be called.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)Congressional pukes are more focused than the toddler-in-chief and, under pressure from the kochs and their ilk no doubt cooking up tax deform = funneling money upwards. All they have to do is present the finished product to D2S for his mark and the work is done.
Oh, and as far as Will goes: he spent decades laying the groundwork so that this debacle of an administration could come to pass, and now he acts shocked. Too little, too late.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)Jonah Goldberg of all people. That really surprised me.
And David Brooks has. nothing good to say.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)Republicans only seem to grow a brain and a heart when theyre no longer in Congress or in the employ of somebody in Congress or the administration. Ana Navarro, Jennifer Rubin, Charles Krauthammer, Nicolle Wallace, Steve Schmidt and a few others have been strongly anti-Trump for a while now.
IronLionZion
(45,541 posts)It's OK to agree with conservatives on the fact that this shithead has done nothing he's claimed to have done, just like with everything else in his life.
Let's see if he's even a billionaire. Release the tax returns.
PatSeg
(47,613 posts)a lot lately. It is such an odd sensation. David Frum too, Bizzarro World!
Warpy
(111,359 posts)who hasn't wandered off into gawd and senility like so many others. He always made a certain amount of sense, he just started off with faulty premises that doomed his reasoning.
That doesn't mean he's incapable of seeing a disaster unfolding in front of him.
Shoot, even Krauthammer has noticed.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)George Will doesn't just disapprove of a few things. He thinks Trump is unfit for office and a big fat untrustworthy liar, as well as other bad things.
KG
(28,753 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,684 posts)One of the few republicans with the guts to contradict Dumpy.
He actually tells the truth!
You see how easily the rethugs can impress us? All they have to do is be honest for two whole minutes!
I hate to admit this but *ush is growing on me too.
What a fucked up world we live in when *ush looks great compared to Dumpy.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)unblock
(52,332 posts)remember before he took office, they were complaining about his lack of experience, and that all he was good for was making speeches.
then they turned around and lined up behind someone with zero government experience; and, evidently, no good other experience either.
TomSlick
(11,110 posts)even a blind sow will stagger on an acorn now and then.
diva77
(7,659 posts)I'd like to see him dissect his legacy and correct/repent for all of the wrongs
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)anniebelle
(899 posts)Never thought I would agree with anything George Will had to say. I've also noticed even Bill Kristol sounds 'almost reasonable' these days. I truly hope there are still enough repukes that care more for our republic than their pitiful little jobs.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He just tweets insults at everybody who doesn't agree with him.
Nitram
(22,892 posts)calimary
(81,512 posts)Well, better late than never, I guess.
George Will may also not like the idea that trump is making his side of the aisle look pretty doggone horrible.
You damn well better be speaking out against this monster, George. You and everybody else in your tribe who still has an ounce of real (not just feigned) patriotism.