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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts) Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:26 AM Jun 2017

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I hope I don't get in trouble for this...

But does this shooting make anyone else think "reichtag fire"? It's a horrible incident, but knowing trump, I'm afraid to see how he'll use this.

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I hope I don't get in trouble for this... (Original Post) liberalnarb Jun 2017 OP

4 wounded guys? That's not enough for a Reichstag fire. DetlefK Jun 2017 #1

I don't recall anybody being actually killed in the fire... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #11

It's not much symbolism either. DetlefK Jun 2017 #14

You are downplaying the ability of the RW echo chamber... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #17

It doesn't have to go down exactly the same way to Neema Jun 2017 #16

Not surprising MFM008 Jun 2017 #2

yup that's what I thought gopiscrap Jun 2017 #3

No jehop61 Jun 2017 #4

I don't think Trump recruited this guy to be the shooter. Kaleva Jun 2017 #5

no, it doesn't make anyone else think that snooper2 Jun 2017 #6

"no, it doesn't make anyone else think that." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #9

Looks like the shooter greytdemocrat Jun 2017 #7

Well,minimally, he will find a way to MAKE IT ABOUT HIM, *his* heroism, he probably shot the shooter UTUSN Jun 2017 #8

It's okay - violence is never an answer - but the political rhetoric today will asiliveandbreathe Jun 2017 #10

No BainsBane Jun 2017 #12

Most historians believe the Reichstag Fire was *not* a proverbial "false flag"... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #13

Yup. I think many DUers are underestimating this Neema Jun 2017 #15

They can only go so far with Gabby Giffords still around BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #18

It will move the needle for them a bit Cosmocat Jun 2017 #22

that was my first thought. niyad Jun 2017 #19

Join the line malaise Jun 2017 #20

The media is making a more giant mountain out of this molehill than usual. HughBeaumont Jun 2017 #21

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

1. 4 wounded guys? That's not enough for a Reichstag fire.

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:29 AM

Jun 2017

Wounded Bear

(58,721 posts)

11. I don't recall anybody being actually killed in the fire...

Reply to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:34 AM

Jun 2017

I may be wrong. It's about the symbolism, not the casualty count.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

14. It's not much symbolism either.

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:38 AM

Jun 2017

4 random republican Congressmen shot and wounded during a leisure-activity. That doesn't exactly say "The Libruls are coming!!!"

Wounded Bear

(58,721 posts)

17. You are downplaying the ability of the RW echo chamber...

Reply to DetlefK (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:45 AM

Jun 2017

to blow shit out of proportion.

Neema

(1,151 posts)

16. It doesn't have to go down exactly the same way to

Reply to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:44 AM

Jun 2017

be used in the same manner. The GOP milk everything dry.

MFM008

(19,820 posts)

2. Not surprising

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:29 AM

Jun 2017

For the maggot.
Unless we have to hear about his YUGE electoral victory.

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)

3. yup that's what I thought

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:30 AM

Jun 2017

probably recruited by Sessions and paid for by Trump

jehop61

(1,735 posts)

4. No

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:30 AM

Jun 2017

This is awful and worrying. But it will be forgotten next week after the fool does something else that's stupid.

Kaleva

(36,354 posts)

5. I don't think Trump recruited this guy to be the shooter.

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:30 AM

Jun 2017

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

6. no, it doesn't make anyone else think that

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:31 AM

Jun 2017

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)

9. "no, it doesn't make anyone else think that."

Reply to snooper2 (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:32 AM

Jun 2017

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)

7. Looks like the shooter

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:31 AM

Jun 2017

Is a Bernie supporter.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/gop-baseball-practice-shooter-identified-as-66-year-old-james-t-hodgkinson/

UTUSN

(70,744 posts)

8. Well,minimally, he will find a way to MAKE IT ABOUT HIM, *his* heroism, he probably shot the shooter

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:31 AM

Jun 2017

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)

10. It's okay - violence is never an answer - but the political rhetoric today will

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:33 AM

Jun 2017

move some stories off the front page - oh, and the breaking news thingy...this has been going on for a very long time...just google - "political rhetoric"..enlightening...everything from Timothy McVeigh, to Sharon engle, to timothy Leary...to the attempt on Giffords.....and many more....

Ever vigilant -

Hearts to the people of London....

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)

12. No

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:35 AM

Jun 2017

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)

13. Most historians believe the Reichstag Fire was *not* a proverbial "false flag"...

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

Jun 2017

....but rather a real act of vandalism that the Nazis exploited to their advantage to consolidate power and crack down on political enemies.

That's why all of Alex Jones' rants about "crisis actors" over the years that President Obama were so ridiculous. If President Obama were really an evil dictator looking for an excuse to take over, he wouldn't have needed any excuses or false flags.

Neema

(1,151 posts)

15. Yup. I think many DUers are underestimating this

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:42 AM

Jun 2017

story. The GOP will milk this for all it's worth. And yes, it could very likely be a reichstag fire.

BumRushDaShow

(129,544 posts)

18. They can only go so far with Gabby Giffords still around

Reply to Neema (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:53 AM

Jun 2017

and having faced the same from Loughner who targeted her specifically.

They could use it as a temporary diversion from the Sessions testimony and will try to enhance the alleged hyper-partisan angle with respect to the shooter, but it actually plays into the more highly discussed need for gun control (with the Pulse anniversary just happening earlier this week and the Megyn Kelly thing with Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook controversy), no matter what party (where apparently VA is completely open for gun/ammunition ownership).

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)

22. It will move the needle for them a bit

Reply to Neema (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:26 PM

Jun 2017

give them something that actually happened to point to in their deranged victimization.

People don't realize how close we are to having these asshole pass the Rubicon ...

niyad

(113,587 posts)

19. that was my first thought.

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:19 PM

Jun 2017

malaise

(269,187 posts)

20. Join the line

Reply to niyad (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:20 PM

Jun 2017

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)

21. The media is making a more giant mountain out of this molehill than usual.

Reply to liberalnarb (Original post)

Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:21 PM

Jun 2017

Anything to distract from RussiaGate and Beauregard Leghorn's disastrous lie-a-thon yesterday.

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