And sickened at these people's actions.

I had heard about other rallies but it's different to experience it in the flesh. It felt like I was dealing with monsters.

Fascism relies on coercion and violent threats

Then they show the yellow stripe on their backs.

40-odd years. (IOW, it didn't start with Trump.) But now that the rubber meets the road, they whine and mewl? Give me a friggin' break! If you can't stand the heat, you have no business anywhere near the kitchen.

And yes I agree it has been very clear who is inciting violence from the start of this campaign in those nazi campaign rallies- the fact that lunatic who incited violence was even allowed to run for office is actually illegal so I have no clue how he was even allowed to run. So much more to say here but you won't hear it on the news for the most part.

...yes, indeed. It do suck.


"I know first hand which political ideology and party promotes violence and it sure as fucking shit isn't the party of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. I don't remember Clinton or Sanders pushing their supporters to use violence as a political tactic.

I invite the right-wing talking heads running with this VA shooting story to kiss my ass. You don't get to stoke the flames of violent partisanship and then turn around and decry a lack of peaceful patriotic unity."

I didn't make it to any Trump rallies (@#%ing brave), but was at several protests and counter-protests during the Bush years. Spitting and mock feces-throwing, murder threats, assaults across the police line -- I learned that these hamheads are the worst kind of primates, utterly delusional and willing to hurt anyone smaller and less threatening than they are. Cowards at heart, the smallest, slowest and most profoundly stupid of our nation.

And you're right, such an experience will change your perceptions considerably. Glad you didn't get hurt.

Their phony protests don't change who they are or a thing about them. They are the hateful ignorants... and we see you.

proudly!

Was there any outrageous indignation from the RW? Hardly any of them commented on it.

Right into the lap of every reich wing turd yammering their face-hole about leftist violence, I would.
If I could launch a guided rocket timed to drop it in front of the cameras on every MSM news program, and print on the front page of every newspaper, I surely surely would.

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"I know first hand which political ideology and party promotes violence and it sure as fucking shit isn't the party of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. I don't remember Clinton or Sanders pushing their supporters to use violence as a political tactic."

Say it loud, say it proud. What you said, Gravitycollapse. It was NOT coming from our side of the aisle. Not EVER. The violence you saw erupting at political rallies was all trump-related. Never ONCE saw such a thing at a Hillary rally. And the only time I can recall Bernie supporters being involved was when THEY were attacked at a rally in Chicago I believe, by a bunch of trump goons looking to stir shit up in the audience. The Bernie people were NOT out there picking fights. They were there to show opposition to trump, as part of a non-violent MoveOn.org protest. Ruffians among the trump people had other ideas.

I have taken great pride, over the years, in pointing out that it is NOT our side that pulls this shit. WE aren't the violent ones. WE are the ones who chain ourselves to trees forcryingoutloud. WE are the ones trying to block bombs from being built, and chaining ourselves to fences around military compounds. WE are the ones who take to sleeping bags and makeshift camps in the middle of Manhattan with the Occupy movement, or out in the sticks in the freezing cold, opposing unwanted pipeline construction. THAT is who and what OUR side is. And nobody I know goes to any of these marches or protests or rallies - armed, with guns, knives, or clubs. That's just not who we are.

Neither Hillary nor Bernie EVER exhorted their crowds to get violent.
Neither Hillary nor Bernie EVER boasted that she or he could stroll out into the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and no one would care.
Neither Hillary nor Bernie EVER singled out a reporter in the crowd in a threatening or menacing way, WHILE stirring up audience anger against that individual by roaring about conspiracies and "fake news".
Neither Hillary nor Bernie EVER directed her or his goons to physically throw a reporter out of the press area during a live press conference.
And we've seen the clip of trump himself getting physical (and quite rude) with Montenegro's prime minister a few weeks ago when he introduced himself as an epic embarrassment to America at the NATO conference.

Moreover, I have NEVER seen t-shirts like the one that says "Rope. Tree. Journalist." or other exhortations of violence at ANY Democratic Party-sponsored, or progressive group-organized marches and protests and other gatherings that I've seen covered or I've seen for myself because I attended said marches, protests, and other gatherings. I've never seen black-clad commando gangs roaming around trying to rough up a crowd of protesters at any such events. Not EVER. That's what happens among the extremists on the other side of the aisle.

This shooter today - HE is not us, either. As upset as he professed to be over trump, I still stand by what I just said. He is not us.

And I hope Steve Scalise gets better. Soon! Nobody wants this. Even Republicans don't want this.

I offered to rip his head off his shoulders and shove it up his ass. If anyone messes with my immigrant daughter the way this guy did, I'll do the same thing.
We were standing in line to pick up her race packet because she enjoys running and we entered her in a kids road race. trump was appearing across the street at the same time so there was a crowded mess. She (my daughter) decided to play in a spray fountain with a bunch of other kids, mostly white. The trumpite said to me, "She shouldn't be here. She's not an American." I said," Get away from me. She's more patriotic than you ever will be." He said, "These immigrants are going to be gone when trump becomes president." That's when I told him that I'd gladly rip his head off his shoulders, etc He told me that "All you Liberals make me sick with your violence and hatred.". A cop came over and told that guy to go away and leave the kids alone after someone told him about our encounter.
So while I cannot really relate to what you all went through, I can say I empathize. Peace to you and yours and remember, we MUST keep up the fight. trump must go.

is political currency in the right wing.

Just finished an interesting book on virility and and the Mussolini regime.

The hypocrisy of the Republican party knows no bounds.

But now that a left-winger went over the edge and shot Republicans this incident can only be characterized as political violence. I don't have a problem with conservatives classifying this as domestic terrorism but we should do the same when right-wingers engage in political violence and not let it slide as just a case of mental illness.

I've stated this before on DU and I believe so now more than ever that if you haven't learned one, it's time. The political climate we are in has devolved to the point that people are constantly being assaulted for no reason other than their skin color or religious beliefs. I encourage you all to seek out a martial art that's best for you, it will teach you more than just self defense but also bring you clarity and boost confidence.

It's a lose lose situation. Getting beat up might be the best way to protect the movement as a whole.

if you are attacked you absolutely should defend yourself. You can learn a martial art like aikido, which is a martial art that is 100% defense based. There is no striking in aikido, it is simply about defending yourself by using your opponents momentum against them.

The Orange Dimbulb brings out the worst instincts in people.