General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsmany reasons to oppose a Mike Pence presidency
but his skill at lying is the biggest
On Oct. 3 2016, Mike Pence took to the stage for his first and only US vice presidential debateand calmly lied through his teeth about Donald Trump for 90 minutes. He lied about whether Trump had said more countries should have nuclear weapons. He lied about Trump saying he wanted to punish women who had abortions. He lied about Trump defending dictators. He lied about Trump doing business with Russia. Every time his opponent, vice-presidential candidate Tim Kaine, brought up a statement by Trumpa public, documented statement, the veracity of which Americans could easily validatePence did not embellish. He simply smiled and lied.
Seven months later, Pence is still lying, only now the lies have become more dangerous. Today, Americans face a dual threat from Pence: first, in his capacity as vice president and as a key player in an administration rife with scandal and possibly treasonous activity; and second, as the potential inheritor of the tarnished presidency as talk of impeachment accelerates. Mike Pence spent months trying to hide the truth about Donald Trump. It is important that Americans do not make the same mistake with Pence.
Impeaching Trump, in other words, would not free the US from the dark specter of collusion and betrayal that has swept over it since Trump took power. Although Trump has lowered the bar for president immeasurably, Americans must not forget that behind Pences smooth smile is a calculating politician with a track record of oppressive policymaking and a knack for dishonesty. The answer to the question Trump or Pence? is always neither.
https://qz.com/992053/will-donald-trump-get-impeached-mike-pence-would-not-be-a-better-us-president/
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,184 posts)He'll be stuck in the position of either pardoning his successor who the evidence I think will ultimately show significant collusion with Russia as well as an obstruction of the investigation over that collusion....or letting him stand criminal trial, reminding America every single day about the character of the man who chose him to be his Vice President.
Then you'll have questions about him. I think there will be some evidence comes out about him having some knowledge of what was going on as it happened, although I don't think it will be enough to convince people to turn on him and impeach him along with Trump. It will, however, continue to linger and haunt what will hopefully be his short presidency.
If things go the way they are going now and excluding the possibility that Trump himself doesn't try some heinous anti-democratic power grab that would consolidate to his benefit, 2018 and 2020 should be very good to us, and very bad for Mike Pence and the rest of the Republicans.
Bring Pence on. He'll be a wounded animal.
Demsrule86
(68,593 posts)We must work to take the House or Senate back in 18...and of course any part of Congress still in GOP hands and the presidency in 20. That is are only avenue to stop the GOP...not just Trump, but all of them.