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imanamerican63

(13,802 posts)
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:27 AM Jun 2017

So, is it the money, the blackmail or the collusion......

that will be the final blow for Trumputin? Only time will tell, but I think these are just a few of things that will come out. Like, who is involved and where it ends for most of leaders and some of Trump's own staff! Trump is a scared cat running in circles, tweeting statement after statement that show he knows he is trouble now. Pence and staffers are lawyering up. Only time will give us relief. Patience my friend and this soon will all be over!

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So, is it the money, the blackmail or the collusion...... (Original Post) imanamerican63 Jun 2017 OP
Hurry up Season 3 !! leftstreet Jun 2017 #1
About the lawyering up Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #2
Yes. spanone Jun 2017 #3
My bet is on the money... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #4
Agreed. Mad-in-Mo Jun 2017 #11
Money SweetieD Jun 2017 #5
Greed, Money.... HipChick Jun 2017 #6
i always thought it would be RICO..money laundering...racketering... samnsara Jun 2017 #7
1. Collusion with a foreign power/treason 2. Obstruction of Justice 3. Money laundering CanonRay Jun 2017 #8
It's the Lawyers, Guns and Money. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #9
How about....all 3? WhiteTara Jun 2017 #10
there's really only one thing that will bring him down: foxnews abandoning him unblock Jun 2017 #12
Money Laundering has been a Trump family business for years Botany Jun 2017 #13
$100 on the Trifecta! MineralMan Jun 2017 #14
Con man bingo - So many card options matt819 Jun 2017 #15
They would have leveraged his debts and sex tapes into collusion. BSdetect Jun 2017 #16

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. About the lawyering up
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jun 2017

They seem to be getting very, very good lawyers. Guess not being a cheap, lying, raging asshole does pay off.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
4. My bet is on the money...
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

I have always figured that Trump is a wholly owned subsidiary of Putin & Co. Most of his entourage is also implicated. Flynn is probably in an FBI safe house, singing like a canary.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
5. Money
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jun 2017

Trump's entire fortune is a house of cards and I think it is killing him that everything is going to be scrutinized.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
8. 1. Collusion with a foreign power/treason 2. Obstruction of Justice 3. Money laundering
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jun 2017

and illegal campaign contributions from a foreign power. I think that third one is as big as the others, because half the GOP leadership got money from Russian oligarchs. Just MHO, but we'll see.

unblock

(52,256 posts)
12. there's really only one thing that will bring him down: foxnews abandoning him
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:00 AM
Jun 2017

and it's not clear how that happens.

in terms of indictments and prosecutions, money is the easiest to prove. lots of digging, but there's a paper trail waiting to be found. not so easy to prove collusion, to distinguish it from a mere coincidence of interests. at least not without some of the aforementioned money paper trail. and blackmail? it's not illegal to be the victim of blackmail, even if you foolishly supplied the blackmail material. the question is what did you do to escape the wrath of the blackmailer? again, hard to prove anything without that money paper trail.

however, it's hard to see foxnews abandoning benedict donald because of something they'll call a "business deal". depends a bit on exactly what the paper trail turns up, i guess, but given the complexity of donnie's myriad shell companies, it's likely to be "too complicated". foxnews will just throw up their hands and say no one can know for certain it's so complicated and democrats are jumping to partisan conclusions, blah, blah, blah.


i keep thinking of that quote from edwin edwards, that nothing could sink him unless he's caught with a dead girl or a live boy.

so maybe we're back to the blackmail material after all -- though i'm not sure we'll ever be able to uncover that.

Botany

(70,519 posts)
13. Money Laundering has been a Trump family business for years
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jun 2017

The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

matt819

(10,749 posts)
15. Con man bingo - So many card options
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jun 2017

Money

Money laundering

Emoluments

Blackmail

Sycophancy

Hookers

Collusion

Lawyering up

Election tampering

Secretive condo purchases

China

Russia

North Korea

Qatar the terrorist state

Qatar the dedicated ally

Cuba for the Russians

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