these RW kooks expect people to stand still and allow themselves to be assaulted or worseby a bunch of Trumpian goons? Is that what they expect?

They've been told for years that people on the left are too afraid to use violence, and they've taken advantage of that! Now, the myth has been busted...some on the left have had enough and are doing to the right what the right has been doing to the left for decades!

Call it payback, karma, what ever...they are getting what they've been dishing out, and they aren't happy!!!

They've been dishing out intimidation tactics against the left for decades and they've never been called out. Same with voter suppression and gerrymandering. We're finally starting to call out their crap thanks to Orange Douche, and now they're calling us extremist? Get fucking real!

You can only push someone so far before they snap! Especially if you're an advocate for changes in the law that are a threat to the safety of their families!!!

The GOP has been bullying us for the last 40 years and getting rich off the lies, bullying, and conspiracy theories. We can only be pushed so far before we start to fight back, and we have to fight back.

trump comes out with a statement about easing off on the divisive rhetoric, Dems and repubs in D.C. start holding hands and talking cooperation, and even Ted Nugent promises to not shoot his filthy mouth off as much.

I'm with you: when things get bad, we have a right to fight back.

Levin, is probably a right-winger.

I think the reason why Hodgkinson wasn't attached to a "left wing extremist group": NONE EXIST!!!! That should be the talking point from this article. The right has tons of extremist groups like Focus On The Family, the Proud Boys, and the III%.Aside from Antifa, but they're as big of douchebags as the Proud Boys and III%ers.

There was a NY Times article posted here a few days ago, about reich wing fringe groups:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9154976

It mentions that Vice Media founder, Gavin McInnes, a big dRumpf supporter, founded the proud boys:

"The founder of the Proud Boys, Mr. McInnes, 46, a Canadian with a hipster-lumberjack aesthetic, is no stranger to controversy. He helped found Vice Media and edited its edgy magazine before leaving in 2007 over differences with his partners. In one episode that drew his colleagues’ ire, he told The New York Times in 2003, “I love being white.”

Mr. McInnes has seemed to find sophomoric pleasure in offending liberals, feminists, “beta male culture” and transgender people. His work is often inflected with a tone of crass, satirical bigotry that leaves him just enough room to declare it all a joke. While Mr. McInnes insists that the Proud Boys are “are a normal fraternal organization like the Shriners,” the sentiments that unify its members are often tinged with disrespect for nonwhite culture."
...

"Some groups like the Proud Boys have initiation rituals that include violent hazing and require an oath of fealty to Western culture. Their followers thrive on hyper-masculinity and celebrate when one of their brethren hits a leftist agitator. They mock Islam and purport to be soldiers against a “war on Whites,” while being mindful not to embrace overt white supremacy. Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime associate of Mr. Trump’s, has taken the Proud Boy oath.

The Alt-Knights were initially conceived as a paramilitary wing of the Proud Boys, designed to provide protection for audiences listening to conservative speakers like Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos, whose public events have been canceled because of threats of violence."


I know McInnes and his Vice partners 'split up' 10 years ago, but I'd take Vice's reporting about 'fears of a surge in lefty violence' with a grain of salt. Because they've had ample opportunity to do a story covering the nazi goon squad aims and actions of the guy with whom they had an acrimonious split, but instead theychose to do a story that seems to dovetail nicely with McInnes' fantasy that his people are about 'defending themselves' against the violent left, and are completely 'justified' by the existence of a violent leftist threat.

Planned Parenthood
The Sierra Club
Oxfam
Doctors Without Borders
Save the Whales
Meals in Wheels
National Public Radio
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting


Feel free to add to this list....


Do I need to add the sargasm thingy?

Trade unions

Hodgkinson sounds like the very definition of the disaffected loner. Not even his wife had a clue that he was ready to go on a violent rampage. Compare and contrast with organized violence from right wing groups, including the Tea Baggers, the III% numbskulls, Clan Bundy and their cohort, and the crowd at any Trump rally.

Three hundred thirty million in the nation, and idiots are calling ONE mass shooting a trend. And we also know that we can't attribute this one shooter as one who is representing "the left" anyway. There is no dogma, direct or otherwise, from "left" politics, that condones violence for political change. AND... Hodgkinson's behavioral history casts him within a very different profile than a political "activist". Hodgkinson had a history of nonpolitical violence-- a generalized coping strategy that expanded into the political realm.

I've seen no one on the left against the government as an institution.

I've seen a lot of people wanting Agent Orange out of the WH. I've seen wanting several congresscritters voted out of office.

I've seen plenty of people being vocal about their feelings on various things their congresscritters have done or not done.

The time for politeness is done. We need to be loud to be heard.

But protest is not violence, which is what this guy seems to be trying to put forward.

First of all, the layout of the website is horrible. I have a large monitor and weak eyes, so I make the text on the screen larger than most people. This has never been a problem until I opened this site. 2/3 of the headline disappears off to the left of the screen. This is horrendously bad design.

Second, there is no header. No "Home," "About Us," "Contact," or anything else you would see on any legitimate website.

Third, I went to who.is and looked up vice.com. It is owned and operated by Perfect Privacy LLC in Jacksonville, FL. It is apparently a company that shows you how to protect your privacy on the internet. There's nothing wrong with that, but their homepage smacks of the kind of company that sponsors hate radio along with gold sellers and male enhancement drugs.

The whole outfit screams "Shady! Scammers!" and, of course, "fake news."

On the plus side, it looks like the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism is real and legitimate. And it does not look at the left with the nearly the same stink eye that vice news does.

Someone should let SPLC know this. That's where I got this article from.

It seems that it does. I really don't know what to make of this article. I can forgive the lack of header, etc., but when I see such bad web design - that actually has to be programmed in! - it makes me wonder about the people putting the site up there.

I can't put my finger on why I think so, but there is something not quite right with this vice.com.

Fuck Vice.

about call themselves Antifa (anti fascist) They align themselves with anarchists And use neo-Nazi type violence against the white supremacists. The big difference is the left denounces violence.

While the right invites them into the White House.

"Obama, he's a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary [Clinton], you might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch."

"We need to ride onto that battlefield and chop their heads off in November." (The folks brandishing rifles in the background of the video above add another element of surrealism to the proceeding.)

I am heartbroken but I am not giving up. I think America will be America again when Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Dick Durbin, Michael Bloomberg and all of the liberal Democrats are in jail facing the just due punishment that their treasonous acts are clearly apparent.

I have obviously failed to galvanize and prod, if not shame enough Americans to be ever vigilant not to let a Chicago communist raised communist educated communist nurtured subhuman mongrel like the ACORN community organizer gangster Barack Hussein Obama to weasel his way into the top office of authority in the United States of America.






Nugent said of our current president, whom he once wished would “suck” on his “machine gun,” that “everything he does is insane,” and that “the guy is the Devil”:

Earlier today, Nugent tweeted, “Pimps whores & welfare brats & their soulless supporters hav [sic] a president to destroy America.”


https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.0V54aLyhmcnD-U5Wbs1ScgEcDb&pid=15.1

Remember her?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-mccain-worker-made-up-attack-story/

Seeing that the Conman's approval is dropping into the low 30's, the right has make some story up to pull down the left.

The Weather Underground didn't come out of a vacuum, it came out of a radical but non-violent student organization. I think we're headed back that way and I think it will make things very, very difficult for our side.

in a mass of mass shootings is a "sharp rise". I'll buy that as I can't recall any since Patty Hurst.

edit note: Not to say Hurst was a shooter but it's the closest thing I could think of w/o googling.