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(47,479 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:05 AM Jun 2017

For Trump, Signs of a Softening Base

When Jennifer King, a church secretary in Oshkosh, Wis., cast her ballot for Donald Trump last fall, she had qualms about the untested businessman, but she liked the promise that Mr. Trump’s policies would improve the economy.

Now, after watching the president for nearly five months, Ms. King, long a Republican, is wondering if she would vote for him again. In her view, he has gone back on promises to protect Medicare, pursued trade policies that could hurt her community’s dairy industry and seems immature at times in the way he attacks opponents.

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But as Mr. Trump loses ground with Ms. King and voters like her, it could be a sign that his base is shrinking at a moment when the president would need plenty of political capital to push a legislative agenda through Congress.

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The Wall Street Journal has identified a pool of swing Trump voters—people like Ms. King—who said in Journal/NBC News surveys last fall that they preferred Mr. Trump with some reservations and concerns about his temperament. The Journal is interviewing this group periodically during the Trump presidency to measure their assessments of his performance.

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Most of these voters aren’t nearly as preoccupied as people in Washington with the probe into Mr. Trump’s alleged ties to Russia. Their concerns with the Trump presidency arise much more from his failure to deliver on key campaign promises and his erratic tweeting.

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Ms. Coats is concerned that the firestorm consuming Mr. Trump’s first months has gotten in the way of the president’s ability to deliver on his campaign promises such as the repeal of the Affordable Care Act.

“They did promise us a new health-care law, but I don’t even know what it is about—who is covered, what is covered,” Ms. Coats said. “What’s concerning me about everything is that we are—and rightly should be—investigating Trump more than taking care of the country.”

Although the White House’s big-ticket agenda items are far from completion, voters are beginning to feel effects of the Trump presidency in smaller ways.

Ms. Coats, a diabetic, recently qualified for federal disability payments and now is worried about the potential impact of Mr. Trump’s call for new restrictions on those benefits.

Ms. King worries about the economic impact of Trump trade policies: In pushing to review trade pacts with Canada, she believes he has hurt the dairy industry that is the livelihood of many of her neighbors.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-trump-signs-of-a-softening-base-1497605402

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For Trump, Signs of a Softening Base (Original Post) question everything Jun 2017 OP
Trump's base wil shrink to his core of radical true believers. Kaleva Jun 2017 #1
those sick brown people are not dying fast enough for the trump true believers so they might turn msongs Jun 2017 #2
One of Friday's Hardball panelists cited DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #3
If that's what pisses them off at him, I'll take it. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #5
Yeah, Dems can emphasise the grifting aspect DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #13
Rump's problem (okay, one of MANY) is that he sees the presidency Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #15
Congress now wants to increase funding for security details for more of them question everything Jun 2017 #19
So his base is going soft on him just when he needs it the most. Hmmmm... Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #4
Agreed. Dulcinea Jun 2017 #6
I guess the great orange savior isn't all he's cracked up to be. GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #14
Funny, if not so sad HAB911 Jun 2017 #7
Pointing out Trump's perversion is great fun with fundies dembotoz Jun 2017 #8
Ya know what? Fuck these stupid people to hell GusBob Jun 2017 #9
I think some of them are starting to realize Revanchist Jun 2017 #10
Are the idiot deplorables finally waking up? Gothmog Jun 2017 #11
A common refrain: Trump can't MAGA because of the Deep State dalton99a Jun 2017 #12
Well, it's SOMEBODY's fault gratuitous Jun 2017 #17
This is one of the reasons the Deep State conspiracy nonsense is such a problem stevenleser Jun 2017 #18
Maybe because tRump promised so much on Day One.... Grammy23 Jun 2017 #16

msongs

(67,405 posts)
2. those sick brown people are not dying fast enough for the trump true believers so they might turn
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:25 AM
Jun 2017

on him soon. he was voted in to eliminate any accomplishments achieved by that black man

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
3. One of Friday's Hardball panelists cited
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:51 AM
Jun 2017

a poll by a GOP polling outfit surveying Trump voters. These voters didn't care that much about Russia/election interference or Trump not releasing his taxes. What did turn them off was how much time Trump spent at Mar-a-Lago/how much it was costing taxpayers.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,176 posts)
5. If that's what pisses them off at him, I'll take it.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:21 AM
Jun 2017

I don't care much for it either, but I didn't need another reason to dislike him. They can have it, if that's what it takes.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
13. Yeah, Dems can emphasise the grifting aspect
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

of the Trump family. It's easy to say that's Ms $s going into Trump's pocket instead of going to create jobs or support medicare/medicaid/ss, etc.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,176 posts)
15. Rump's problem (okay, one of MANY) is that he sees the presidency
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jun 2017

as sort of an honorary position -- like being president of the local Rotary Club.

No one expects that the Rotary Club president abandon his personal business interests and focus full-time on the club's business. No one gets upset when their president makes business contacts -- and profits from them -- during their tenure. (Hell, I always assumed that's why many people join!) But he just can't wrap his feeble little mind around the differences between the two positions.

MHO, and I apologize to any Rotarians I may have offended -- it was just the first organization that came to mind, and it could just as easily have been the Moose, the Elks, the Odd Fellows, the Shriners, or the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
19. Congress now wants to increase funding for security details for more of them
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jun 2017

Well, just get the Trump brats off the roll and make him pay for all these play areas. This should release enough funds to protect all of members of Congress.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,176 posts)
4. So his base is going soft on him just when he needs it the most. Hmmmm...
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:08 AM
Jun 2017

No, I don't think I'll carry that line of thought any further. Feel free to provide your own punch line.

Dulcinea

(6,631 posts)
6. Agreed.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:42 AM
Jun 2017

The Donald's base doesn't care about Russia. They don't think it has anything to do with them. They care that he's not bringing their jobs & way of life back, and that he's not deporting all those black & brown people that make them uncomfortable. Of course, neither he nor anyone else can do that.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
9. Ya know what? Fuck these stupid people to hell
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:04 AM
Jun 2017

What in the fuck did these stupid jits expect? A DT conversion? What they saw is what they got.

He is not a decent republican, he is not a decent conservative he is not a decent christian he is not a decent man he is not a decent American he is not a decent human being

He is a fucking traitor Russian troll

Fuck the stupid people who voted for him to hell

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Well, it's SOMEBODY's fault
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:37 AM
Jun 2017

And you can bet that Fox and the other mouthpieces of the Nitwit Brigade will be trotting out a constant stream of scapegoats. The nice thing about the so-called Deep State is that it's nameless, faceless, and amorphous. In Orwell's book Animal Farm, it was Snowball; for 21st Century Republicans, right now it's Deep State.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. This is one of the reasons the Deep State conspiracy nonsense is such a problem
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jun 2017

and why I have been warning people about it.

Besides the fact that it is bullshit nonsense someone concocted to sell books to the gullible, we now see what I feared. It's now an excuse for a demagogue as to why he is not successful.

Once again, the President has complete authority over the executive branch and can fire anyone therein at will. The President is responsible for his success and failure. Not some fake conspiracy theory entity.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
16. Maybe because tRump promised so much on Day One....
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jun 2017

they will start to catch on that he was just blowing smoke. As time moves on and he has accomplished so little of what he promised, maybe it will dawn on them that he was all talk, no action. Again, as with so many of his problems, this is one of his own making.

Perhaps if he hadn't been SO specific about when all of his miracles would be done, he could defend himself better. But in true trumpian fashion, he had to go over the top with his claims and the fools at the rallies (plus the ones who were 't able to go but heard every golden utterance from his lips via TV) believed him. As the evidence mounts that he didn't and couldn't wave a magic wand on Day One and get it all fixed, their ardor might cool...just a tad. I think polls are starting to show a shift away from their Orange Savior, so there is hope.

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