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MissMillie

(38,558 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:27 AM Jun 2017

Insurance... sucks

I once had a car that needed a windshield every year. It was a great car and it lasted me 8 years. But because of highway driving I would get hit w/ kicked-up rocks and the windshield would crack and if I wanted to pass inspection I would have to replace the windshield.

For the first 5 years I had full coverage on the vehicle and I would call the insurance company and they would pay for replacement. I would sign the slip that said they were charging the insurance company.... $900!!!!

In the last 3 years that I owned that car, I dropped my insurance to "liability only" and when I had to replace the windshield I paid for it out of pocket... less than $300.

Leads me to believe that those that have insurance subsidize those that don't have insurance.

So, I can't help but wonder what would happen to healthcare costs if EVERYONE had insurance.

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Insurance... sucks (Original Post) MissMillie Jun 2017 OP
or if no one did? newblewtoo Jun 2017 #1
Medical costs did seem to skyrocket MichMary Jun 2017 #2
Medical insurance has copays and deductibles Progressive dog Jun 2017 #3
And I have receipts from the 1970's for doctor office visits at $15 a pop. sinkingfeeling Jun 2017 #4
It happened with college tuition Motownman78 Jun 2017 #5

newblewtoo

(667 posts)
1. or if no one did?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:26 AM
Jun 2017

Comprehensive pays for windshields, is usually very inexpensive. It is not collision or liability both of which are far more expensive. If you dropped it as well as collision you probably did yourself no favor.

But following your example, if everyone had insurance a case could be made that costs would skyrocket to $900 for everyone!

Unless, of course you, enforced price controls. Would that it were that simple. How are you going to pay for all of the people who cannot afford this 'insurance' you propose everyone have? Who is going to run this program?

Those that can do pay do indeed subsidize those who cannot or won't. Doctors, nurses, the whole complex hospital system, does not operate for free; someone has to pay. The tough nut to crack would seem to be who, how much, and who will run the show.



MichMary

(1,714 posts)
2. Medical costs did seem to skyrocket
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jun 2017

after everyone started getting health insurance and/or Medicare. When that happened, docs and hospital could charge whatever they wanted, and the consumer didn't care because their bills were paid by the insurance company. Providers were no longer accountable to the consumers. I think that's the same thing that happened with colleges and financial aid.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
3. Medical insurance has copays and deductibles
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jun 2017

so you know exactly what it costs. Medicare and medicaid set the prices that providers can be paid and they must accept the amounts or not participate.
HMO's and PPO's negotiate prices with a provider network. Auto insurance companies do the same, they are not paying $900 for a $300 windshield.

 

Motownman78

(491 posts)
5. It happened with college tuition
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:00 AM
Jun 2017

College tuition skyrocketed when the student loan program went into effect.

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