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Sympathy for the President, a Weak, Sick Old Man
In the wake of the shooting in Alexandria, Virginia, where Republican members of Congress were targeted by an angry, abusive left-wing gunman, calls have gone up on both sides of the mainstream political spectrum for there to be less violent rhetoric and more seeking of common ground. President Trump himself called for such comity shortly after calling the Democrats "obstructionist" and shortly before he accused Democrats and Hillary Clinton of having their own ties to Russia.
But I'm going to rise above petty partisan concerns in order to say something that, while not exactly nice, is completely sympathetic to Donald Trump:
The President is a sick old man who is being taken advantage of by the people around him.
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Trump's health is failing. Physical and mental. If that wasn't obvious from his constant asides and inability to stay on point, here is one of his answers during the press conference: "I can tell you that there are many American investors right now going to Romania and investing. In fact, I was given a chart just before our meeting, and we have people going over to Romania and investing, and they werent doing that a number of years ago." A "number of years ago," Romania was a Soviet bloc country that didn't allow investment from the west. He might not know. He might not care. Or, equally likely, he might be completely divorced from the reality of the situation.
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If he wasn't a wealthy media figure, Trump would be in a home or hospital, getting the care he needs. Instead, he is allowed to continue in this charade of leadership because it allows the people around him to get what they want, whether it's a repeal of the Affordable Care Act to please the GOP congressional whores, the reversal of humane executive orders on immigration to satisfy the racist nativists, the juice to seal deals for his terrible children, and more. Nobody really freaks out when Trump makes the pronouncements he does because they all know that, ultimately, he's just a mascot and not the one in charge. That was made perfectly clear when he turned over determinations about troop levels in Afghanistan to Secretary of Defense Mattis.
They will keep Trump propped up, even if he becomes a zombie version of himself, Strom Thurmond-like, in order to keep their agenda going or until he's so tainted by scandal that he becomes a vortex, taking down everyone with him. They will push that weak, sick old man until they've used him up.
And, frankly, I couldn't really be bothered to give a single, sad fuck about that shitstain of a human other than to recognize that this is likely what's happening.
So that's my attempt at being nice to Donald Trump.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/06/sympathy-for-president-weak-sick-old-man.html
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)We always knew this would be the most facesaving move for the GOP - 25th amendment, or DJT resigns for medical reasons.
Question is whether DJT has too much pride to do it.
brush
(53,778 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)climbing back into the cart, etc., doesn't take a great deal of stamina.
brush
(53,778 posts)trump is mentally weak but not physically. He is fat and overweight though.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Not dissing golf. It's a popular sport for a reason, but compare the shape of both pro golfers and pro tennis players after a full, hard fought match. Golf is probably the ONLY sport Trump can perform, and then only because of the cart, which he needed even to follow other world leaders on a walk. Could you see him playing table tennis with the Chinese if it ever came to that? Fat and overweight IS weak, both physically (and mentally, in some cases) Again, not dissing golf, just making a point about the physical physical toll it takes By the time someone is of sufficient age to be POTUS, golf is usually a preferred sport.
brush
(53,778 posts)as there is almost continual physical exertion for hours without breaks hardly. I would include basketball, soccer and boxing as well.
Golf is nowhere near that but after 4 hours of it you feel it, even if you're in a cart. You're constantly in and out of the cart, walking to you ball, climbing down into bunkers, swinging, climbing out. There are elevation changes. There's energy expended.
You are right that golf in a cart is about the only sport trump can manage though because he's in terrible shape. He's not weak though. He has the strength to hit the ball pretty good, but because he's in poor physical shape, he can't withstand that exertion for very long.
If you walk in golf, especially if you carry your own bag, you will get a workout.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)If he ever reads this, he will blow a gasket for sure!
Cirque du So-What
(25,939 posts)but it would seem that interjecting excerpts into his twitter feed is a good way to ensure that Cheeto Benito lays eyes upon it.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Just like my old dad used to do. A Fox News devotee, he'd watch and yell. Was convinced Obama was going to ruin this country completely. Believed everything he saw on that channel and nobody else. Died 18 months into Obama's first term.
Donnie Quixote is divorced from reality in a similar way. They get old and weak and wish that things were the way they used to be--they wish they were the way they used to be--young and fit and capable.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Panich52
(5,829 posts)let sane folk run DC
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Enoki33
(1,587 posts)as he is allowed to continue to enrich himself, family and Putin style close associates at America's expense. He once said he was possibly the only person who could make money from running for the presidency. And he did. We are looking at classis corruption that unless stopped will morph into brazen kleptocracy. The third world is littered with such examples.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)... especially if Democrats weld the tRump and Republican brands together repeatedly, frequently and incessantly.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)if he was not doing so much damage to the country and the world.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)he was a cruel greedy one who cheated on his wives, robbed his business partners and subcontractors, ignored at least one of his children and lied whenever it could advance him, re the birther crap.
He's always been morally sick; now he's just old.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Well said. It would be sympathy for the devil.
Zero sympathy here.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)an faded blue bathrobe and it will be clear to everyone, even in Red states.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)They seem to have no contact with reality.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)is focused, as he always has been, on how much money he can make. He is very good at conning the vulnerable. That to him is the value of politics.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)One on one interviews will be tightly controlled, and no one will actually take his cellphone away. Dementia is a sad way to go but Trump was scum well before the symptoms started.
dalton99a
(81,488 posts)But hey, there was so much money to be made - and all the freebies!
Chemisse
(30,811 posts)They were foisting a sick fuck on the world.
But just imagine the money to be made; far more important to the Trump crew than their father's health and sanity or even the fate of the world.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It was not complex. He operated exactly like he has done in his business dealings. The majority of Republicans in the top offices realized that he was a disaster in the making. However, he simply gave them an ultimatum: You either support me or I will run as an Independent. The hatred of the Democrats that they preached to their constituency left them no option, if they refused Clinton would be elected, so they caved to his demands. Even though he belittled them on the campaign trail, after his election those who had run against him came licking his boots and kissing his fat ass. If anyone thinks that they will impeach him, unless he is guilty of murder, they are delusional in my estimation of the situation.
The country is so deeply divided many scholars of the political situation warn that the inability of the two parties to negotiate in the best interest of the nation is seriously threatening its future. The cause can be without prejudice attributed directly to the transformation of the Republican Party into a ultra-rightwing nut house that has absolutely no contact with reality. They have demonized liberals as immoral hedonists, baby killers, anti-Americans that have absolutely no right to even be citizens. They hope of the nations founders, E Pluribus Unum, has been trampled under foot by radicals who have captured the local governments, state houses and the federal government and are determined to obliterate the filthy Godless liberals.
Good luck young Americans, you will need it.
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Family dynamic is not about autonomy. Had they tried, I think DT would have turned on them. Do you think the loyalty oaths were something he just started?
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)He deserves no sympathy. He's been using people his whole life. The fact that he is old and possibly ill with a disease or neurological decline like dementia, which ironically, the symptoms are much the same for a malignant narcissist as one in decline from dementia, is just a precipitate to his eventual end. Malignant narcissists don't age well. Had he not taken office he would have had less stress, which may have made life more manageable for him. While campaigning he got up and just said whatever grandiose piece of crap that made him feel special, fed his black hole of an ego, thinking when he was president, he could be king. And all the people, especially Obama, would pay. In order to maintain his narcissistic fantasies, in the face of conflict and opposition, he resorts to lies and attacks. Business as usual. He plays the victim.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)My Mom was a malignant narcissist and when I encounter one nowadays all the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Narcissists become truly horrible in old age and will commit the most outrageous acts imaginable. Once my Mom beat up the little old lady next door for having the audacity to try to give my Mom some Christmas cookies. I saw the bruises and the police were called. When the officer showed up at her door, my Mom morphed into this sweet senior type and pretended to be completely at loss. When he left, she reverted true to form and said, "How dare that old woman call the cops on me!"
I can just imagine if my Mom had been running the country at the time. She and Trumpf are evil twins separated at birth. Scarey stuff!
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:48 AM - Edit history (1)
Of course Trump would most likely hate being called a sick old man..
weydowner
(100 posts)Soon there will be the humble contrite sinner who will appeal to the generous public to forgive him his flaws like a pious pseudo-Christian tele-evangelist who has been caught in an airport toilet with a handsome young escort.
Dupes like Don Lemon will put on his forgiving tone and tell us that we should forgive him because he is being Presidential and honest, ignoring the last 71years when this greedy amoral mega-narcissist lied and conned his way up the greasy pole.
Even the false teary eyes, helped by a hidden onion, and CNN and MSNBC panels of pundits will discuss whether the pathetic old man is being genuine for the first time in decades.
I wish I wasn't such a Cassandra figure, but I seem to have seen it again and again.
And does anybody doubt whether he can do this?
sarge43
(28,941 posts)The Trump Redemption Tour, stay tuned.
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)He's got a lot of problems, not the least of which is he had no idea what he was getting into when he thought up his latest career move. I think he thought it would just be good for business.
But his smug ass does care. He got "hired" for the "job" and he thinks he can treat it like any other line on his resume. Good for busiess, indeed. Thing is, he's being managed by GOPers who are far smarter than he is, and they know how the political system works. A nice short document that has Trump's name on it a few times will keep his attention. A little stroking of his ego, and then a policy position that he won't read, and he'll agree to anything they say because they're praising him and he trusts them.
He's like a slot machine. Insert praise and out comes every regressive policy that the GOP have been desperate to enact for the last few decades.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Nail meet hammer
TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts).
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DFW
(54,384 posts)The first line will be "Please allow me to introduce myself....."
madokie
(51,076 posts)and totally spot on with this
Yonnie3
(17,441 posts)What if the media, all of congress, and all the electorate expressed their (fake) sympathy for the sick old man. A non stop, 24/7, marathon of sympathy would put him over the edge quickly.