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kentuck

(111,095 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:51 AM Jun 2017

If you want Donald Trump impeached...

...there is only one way it is going to be done.

You have to change the Congress in 2018. I know that is a long time to wait but it is more apparent every day that Paul Ryan and the Republicans are going to do nothing to save us from this tyrant and criminal?

If you don't want him impeached, keep the Republicans in charge of the Congress. It's as simple as that.

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If you want Donald Trump impeached... (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2017 OP
I want him broke. The Trump brand worthless leftstreet Jun 2017 #1
Lots of things mean nothing to Trumpy. Except money. Besides, Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #27
And then we get Mike Pence. EL34x4 Jun 2017 #2
However, if Democrats control Congress after 2018, MineralMan Jun 2017 #5
Yep. If we could convince enough Republicans and Independents of the necessity to get rid of him...? kentuck Jun 2017 #6
Pence is SANE Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #15
Agreed. He also lacks charisma. athena Jun 2017 #20
yes except he and his cronies will try and implement pseudo Christian sharia in all laws luvMIdog Jun 2017 #26
Republicans will not impeach him dalton99a Jun 2017 #3
What if he starts slinging shit like a pissed-off monkey? kentuck Jun 2017 #4
If Trump did this, his approval ratings would go up. EL34x4 Jun 2017 #10
They'll impeach if his polls keep dropping oxbow Jun 2017 #19
Predictions in this era are mighty hard to make. Given the abysmal trajectory of Trump 150 days in, FreepFryer Jun 2017 #7
It would be nice to have a Congress that would stand up for the people over the tyrant. kentuck Jun 2017 #8
A little egg salad sounds delicious! :) FreepFryer Jun 2017 #9
He's just crooked or maybe he's part of the "being russian blackmailed" gang? The Wielding Truth Jun 2017 #16
Since we are speculating, what if the tyrant were to grab Secretary Chao? Marcuse Jun 2017 #23
And we need to keep the Congress busy till them. Sad to say, but they are going to airmid Jun 2017 #11
Don't bet the farm. colorado_ufo Jun 2017 #12
I think this is why BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #13
Unlike most people on DU, Nancy Pelosi knows to count the votes. athena Jun 2017 #21
But if anti-Trump votes give the majority to the Democrats in the House...? kentuck Jun 2017 #24
My point is that she doesn't yet have the votes. athena Jun 2017 #28
Just to jog the memory. colorado_ufo Jun 2017 #25
I honestly don't know if I do broadcaster90210 Jun 2017 #14
Can't argue with that. kentuck Jun 2017 #29
I don't see 45 resigning if he is impeached. But, if he is, moonscape Jun 2017 #17
I'd be surprised if anyone here didn't vote and vote D. Ligyron Jun 2017 #18
IMO, Getting a 2/3 vote in the Senate will be almost impossible. CK_John Jun 2017 #22

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
27. Lots of things mean nothing to Trumpy. Except money. Besides,
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:09 PM
Jun 2017

Money taken from Trumpy, assuming the best, is OWED to all of us. We have laws to protect us from thieves like him. They either work, or they don't.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
2. And then we get Mike Pence.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:54 AM
Jun 2017

Unlike Trump, the GOP will close ranks around Pence. They'll fight for him.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
5. However, if Democrats control Congress after 2018,
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jun 2017

we'll be able to keep Pence in check.

Winning the 2018 elections should be our constant goal, beginning the day after Trump's inauguration. If it's not your primary goal already, consider making it so.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
6. Yep. If we could convince enough Republicans and Independents of the necessity to get rid of him...?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jun 2017

And make that the number one priority in 2018, we might still have a chance to save this country? Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

athena

(4,187 posts)
20. Agreed. He also lacks charisma.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:55 PM
Jun 2017

He would be a very unpopular president, making it likely that a Dem would be elected in 2020.

dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
3. Republicans will not impeach him
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jun 2017

unless he barges into the House chamber, punches Paul Ryan and pisses on the carpet on live TV

oxbow

(2,034 posts)
19. They'll impeach if his polls keep dropping
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jun 2017

They're too scared of his base taking them out in primary season. I'm thinking somewhere in the mid-20s oughta do it though...

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
7. Predictions in this era are mighty hard to make. Given the abysmal trajectory of Trump 150 days in,
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jun 2017

the degree of self-incrimination and the investigations underway, I'm not prepared to write off this Congress.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
8. It would be nice to have a Congress that would stand up for the people over the tyrant.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jun 2017

But, I have little faith in Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell - especially McConnell. He is like those pickled eggs in the big jar at the bar... He is pickled inside a big partisan bubble.

Marcuse

(7,482 posts)
23. Since we are speculating, what if the tyrant were to grab Secretary Chao?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 04:06 PM
Jun 2017

since he thinks harass is two words. It would take a super blunder like that to disrupt McConnell's winning game plan.

airmid

(500 posts)
11. And we need to keep the Congress busy till them. Sad to say, but they are going to
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jun 2017

use Scalise shooting to tamp down protest and opposition. Time to dig in for the long game.

BumRushDaShow

(128,981 posts)
13. I think this is why
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jun 2017

there is a battle over who should be the ranking member of the House Judiciary committee, given Conyers wrote a whole book on impeaching Shrub only to nix it.

athena

(4,187 posts)
21. Unlike most people on DU, Nancy Pelosi knows to count the votes.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jun 2017

Think twice before criticizing Nancy Pelosi.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/26/nancy-pelosi-turns-75-today-shes-still-the-most-effective-leader-in-congress/?utm_term=.890de7beab5c

"Here's a little secret about Congress: Nancy Pelosi remains the leader that inspires the most fear among her colleagues."
...
"But I would argue that Pelosi's last five years in Congress are often overlooked when it comes to assessing her abilities as a pol. Anyone can be regarded as effective when they're on top; people who can continue to lead when times are bad are the true standouts."
...
"And, it is true that no one in the House Democratic caucus — or, aside from New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, any other congressional Democrat — can raise money in the quantities Pelosi can. But to focus solely on Pelosi's fundraising ability is to miss the true story of the past few years: her iron grip over her caucus on contentious legislation."

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
24. But if anti-Trump votes give the majority to the Democrats in the House...?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 06:09 PM
Jun 2017

Does she take that into consideration?

athena

(4,187 posts)
28. My point is that she doesn't yet have the votes.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:00 PM
Jun 2017

When you try a vote and it fails, you end up weakening your own party. The vast majority of DUers don't seem to realize this. Nancy Pelosi never talks about something unless she knows she has the votes to get it done.

It's easy to talk. It's easy to denigrate an extremely strong minority leader. It's much, much harder to actually *be* that strong minority leader and continue to have successes even when the other party controls the presidency, the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court.

Nancy Pelosi is one of the most liberal members of the House. I suggest you read more about her before you suggest that there is *anything* out there that she hasn't taken into consideration. The article I posted would be a good start. Here is another one:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-staying-power-of-nancy-pelosi/440022/

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
25. Just to jog the memory.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jun 2017

And don't get too optimistic too quickly. Even if we take control, it is an uphill battle.

broadcaster90210

(333 posts)
14. I honestly don't know if I do
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jun 2017

Oh I want a Dem Congress of course, but the ONLY thing that will potentially save America (if it can be of which I am not sure) is the utter destruction of the GOP like the Nazis in Germany. And because of the willing ignorance of so many Americans, and rigged coting machines, we need a screaming GOP fool to kill off conservatism because it is clear the Left can't pull that off.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
17. I don't see 45 resigning if he is impeached. But, if he is,
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

because the House in 18 is Dem, it doesn't mean it would get 2/3 in the Senate.

I can see us taking the House in 18 and losing some seats in the Senate. We have too much to defend in red districts and they have little.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
18. I'd be surprised if anyone here didn't vote and vote D.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

Problem is: we need to drag about 5 other people each to the polls to participate in our democracy.

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