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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you want Donald Trump impeached...
...there is only one way it is going to be done.
You have to change the Congress in 2018. I know that is a long time to wait but it is more apparent every day that Paul Ryan and the Republicans are going to do nothing to save us from this tyrant and criminal?
If you don't want him impeached, keep the Republicans in charge of the Congress. It's as simple as that.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Impeachment would mean nothing to him
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Money taken from Trumpy, assuming the best, is OWED to all of us. We have laws to protect us from thieves like him. They either work, or they don't.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Unlike Trump, the GOP will close ranks around Pence. They'll fight for him.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)we'll be able to keep Pence in check.
Winning the 2018 elections should be our constant goal, beginning the day after Trump's inauguration. If it's not your primary goal already, consider making it so.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)And make that the number one priority in 2018, we might still have a chance to save this country? Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Loathsome, yes. But he won't blow up the world at 4 AM.
athena
(4,187 posts)He would be a very unpopular president, making it likely that a Dem would be elected in 2020.
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)dalton99a
(81,488 posts)unless he barges into the House chamber, punches Paul Ryan and pisses on the carpet on live TV
kentuck
(111,095 posts)EL34x4
(2,003 posts)I'm not joking.
oxbow
(2,034 posts)They're too scared of his base taking them out in primary season. I'm thinking somewhere in the mid-20s oughta do it though...
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)the degree of self-incrimination and the investigations underway, I'm not prepared to write off this Congress.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)But, I have little faith in Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell - especially McConnell. He is like those pickled eggs in the big jar at the bar... He is pickled inside a big partisan bubble.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Marcuse
(7,482 posts)since he thinks harass is two words. It would take a super blunder like that to disrupt McConnell's winning game plan.
airmid
(500 posts)use Scalise shooting to tamp down protest and opposition. Time to dig in for the long game.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Remember Nancy " impeachment is off the table" Pelosi?
BumRushDaShow
(128,981 posts)there is a battle over who should be the ranking member of the House Judiciary committee, given Conyers wrote a whole book on impeaching Shrub only to nix it.
athena
(4,187 posts)Think twice before criticizing Nancy Pelosi.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/26/nancy-pelosi-turns-75-today-shes-still-the-most-effective-leader-in-congress/?utm_term=.890de7beab5c
"Here's a little secret about Congress: Nancy Pelosi remains the leader that inspires the most fear among her colleagues."
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"But I would argue that Pelosi's last five years in Congress are often overlooked when it comes to assessing her abilities as a pol. Anyone can be regarded as effective when they're on top; people who can continue to lead when times are bad are the true standouts."
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"And, it is true that no one in the House Democratic caucus or, aside from New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, any other congressional Democrat can raise money in the quantities Pelosi can. But to focus solely on Pelosi's fundraising ability is to miss the true story of the past few years: her iron grip over her caucus on contentious legislation."
kentuck
(111,095 posts)Does she take that into consideration?
athena
(4,187 posts)When you try a vote and it fails, you end up weakening your own party. The vast majority of DUers don't seem to realize this. Nancy Pelosi never talks about something unless she knows she has the votes to get it done.
It's easy to talk. It's easy to denigrate an extremely strong minority leader. It's much, much harder to actually *be* that strong minority leader and continue to have successes even when the other party controls the presidency, the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court.
Nancy Pelosi is one of the most liberal members of the House. I suggest you read more about her before you suggest that there is *anything* out there that she hasn't taken into consideration. The article I posted would be a good start. Here is another one:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-staying-power-of-nancy-pelosi/440022/
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)And don't get too optimistic too quickly. Even if we take control, it is an uphill battle.
broadcaster90210
(333 posts)Oh I want a Dem Congress of course, but the ONLY thing that will potentially save America (if it can be of which I am not sure) is the utter destruction of the GOP like the Nazis in Germany. And because of the willing ignorance of so many Americans, and rigged coting machines, we need a screaming GOP fool to kill off conservatism because it is clear the Left can't pull that off.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)moonscape
(4,673 posts)because the House in 18 is Dem, it doesn't mean it would get 2/3 in the Senate.
I can see us taking the House in 18 and losing some seats in the Senate. We have too much to defend in red districts and they have little.
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)Problem is: we need to drag about 5 other people each to the polls to participate in our democracy.