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red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:26 PM Jun 2017

Senate Democrats Need To Go Nuclear On Trumpcare Right Now

Source:
The New Republic


Senate Democrats need to go nuclear on Trumpcare right now.
Senate Republicans are working to fast-track a health care bill in utmost secrecy before the
July 4 recess.

It's clear that the bill - which is shaping up to be as disastrous as the House-passed
American Health Care Act - won't be let out of the dungeon until the very last second to avoid scrutiny.
Republicans aren't planning to hold any hearings and they won't publicly release a draft of the bill because, as one senior GOP aide told Axios, "We aren't stupid."

If Mitch McConnell and the Republican majority want to pass a bill taking away health insurance from some 20 million Americans, there isn't much that Democrats can do about it in the end.
But they can delay the process - and activists are pushing them to do just that.
Groups like Indivisible and MoveOn want Democrats to withhold consent - a parliamentary maneuver that slows down Senate business - to trip up McConnell.

According to Jeff Stein at Vox, Senate Democrats don't have any current plans to do so.
They argue that "going nuclear" would only unify Republicans in their resolve and would, at most, stall the inevitable by a few weeks.

But those few weeks can be vital.
When the House passed the AHCA in May, speed was of the essence: Activists were caught flat-footed and were unable to put pressure on House members in full force.
The political theater of Senate Democrats making a last stand to defeat the bill would help garner more publicity for that effort.
More importantly, it would shine a light on what Republicans are doing:
They are jamming through a massive overhaul of the health care system IN SECRET, one that will likely kick millions of Americans off their health insurance, literally leaving some people to die by 2018.

More + links:
http://newrepublic.com/minutes/143300/senate-democrats-need-go-nuclear-trumpcare-right-now


"TRUMPCARE: Tell Democrats to shut down the Senate now"
http://act.democracyforamerica.com/sign/shut-down-the-senate-trumpcare/


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Salviati

(6,008 posts)
1. If it is inevitable, then the only thing you can do is fight against it as hard as you possible can.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jun 2017

So when it crashes and burns, people remember where you stood.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
4. and just how will they do that without the majority? Elections have consequences. We will see what
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:30 PM
Jun 2017

2018 brings

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. Actually GOP senate constituents need to go nuclear..
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:30 PM
Jun 2017

So target ad campaigns in 10 or 12 states with GOP senators especially those running in 2018 and 2020...good god democrats are piss poor strategists. Senate democrats have few options...but a massive media blitz is something else

still_one

(92,190 posts)
7. Thank you for describing the reality of the situation Bob. I doubt they will though, and suspect
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:36 PM
Jun 2017

some Democrats won't sign onto a nuclear option for legislation or bills

 

stephensolomita

(91 posts)
8. Not That Easy
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:36 PM
Jun 2017

It's hard to run a focused ad campaign when you don't know what's in the bill. I think preventing exactly that is part of the reason the bill is bring crafted in private.

 

stephensolomita

(91 posts)
6. Good Idea
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jun 2017

Excellent idea. I'm going to shoot off emails to my Senators, Schumer and Gildebrand. As it is, Trump sucks up all the oxygen in the room. If he's not getting the country's full attention, he tweets off something outrageous to bring it back. We must draw attention to what's going on behind closed doors. As for the fear of withholding consent uniting the Republicans? They're already united on the need to gut the ACA in order to free up money for their tax cut. Oh, did I say tax cut? Sorry, a slip of the tongue. I meant tax reform. Of course.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Agree entirely except that I don't actually think Schumer etc.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:52 PM
Jun 2017

need emails to act on their chosen strategy. My husband "corresponds" routinely with our Senators Perdue and Isakson.

Unexpectedly revealing, if alarming, message from from Sen. Perdue: "Turnarounds are messy. Turnarounds take time. Turnarounds often break some eggs in the early stages, but a successful turnaround starts with a serious change in direction.

President Trump immediately signified that change when he nominated Justice Neil Gorsuch to the United States Supreme Court. ...

In a successful turnaround, you have to be willing to take some steps that may seem unorthodox. That includes dismantling the current system and deciphering what is really necessary to survive." ...

Welcome to DU, btw.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
11. MoveOn.org called me last weekend for their nationwide call and I DID call a lot!
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jun 2017

They do monthly calls now instead of weekly. Last Sunday they were focused on calling the Senate about two items;
1. Senate ACA repeal.
2. Independent Investigation (besides Mueller's and the Senate and HOUSE committees).
I have been "resisting" since Nov. and from my experience the phone lines were busy or the mailboxes were full when I called the 11 Repub senators who may "swing". This is very good...people are finally realizing what McConnell and his 13 white, old men are up to. Of all the staffers that I actually did speak with only one was against the Senate Trumpcare bill (Heller-NV). If you look at the Supreme Court nomination and how they could vote along the same plan, the dems need to ALL vote "No" and I believe Schumer is aiming for that and it probably will happen. With the SCROTUS votes a few months ago it took Pence's vote to put Gorsuch over the top. If Heller voted "No" then we may have a chance. A VERY slim chance but a chance none the less. I have to hope this happens since I am one of those people that you hear about...actually dying and in very, very extreme pain. I found out that the health issues I've had for years is very serious when it was finally, correctly diagnosed last Aug. I am cool with the dying part but not the pain part. Pain meds don't work (none are strong enough) and the only short term relief is a series of surgeries until I eventually die. The silver lining is I won't have to suffer through experiencing 4 years of the Donald slowly killing my country. I will call, write, protest and RESIST until I no longer physically can.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
14. I just found this after doing a Google search
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 05:15 PM
Jun 2017

"Game Changing Strategy for Pain Relief Found"
Date: May 31, 2017
Source: Monash University (Australia)
Summary:
"Researchers have developed a new drug delivery strategy able to block pain within the nerve cells, in what could be a major development of an immediate and long lasting treatment for pain."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170531143659.htm

I think this research is so new that they haven't gotten to clinical tests on humans yet, but clinical trials on humans with severe, chronic pain may soon be conducted.
(You may want to check with your doctor about this)



Another online source for the latest research on severe and/or chronic pain is:
The American Academy of Pain Medicine
http://www.painmed.org/library/research-in-the-news/





I also found this:
(unable to post a link)
Google:
"Is Cannabis Better for Chronic Pain than Opioids?"

"Both THC and CBD in cannabis are known to elicit analgesic effects, especially when used together due to their congruent chemical synergies."

David__77

(23,402 posts)
13. Slowing things down should be the practice at all times.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 04:04 PM
Jun 2017

As little lawmaking should occur as possible.

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