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orangecrush

(19,611 posts) Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:23 PM Jun 2017

DONALD TRUMP, FELIX SATER AND THE MOB: LAWYERS PUSH TO UNSEAL COURT DOCUMENTS

Lawyers seeking to unseal documents related to the criminal past of a former business partner of President Donald Trump said in federal court on Monday that the documents may contain evidence that Trump committed fraud.

The sealed documents are from a federal case against Felix Sater, who Trump reportedly tapped as a senior advisor for his real-estate business in the 2000s even after Sater’s earlier role in a Mafia-linked stock scheme became public.

“A fellow named Donald Trump is now president and he had a business associate named Sater. The public needs to know the length of their relationship and the nature of the relationship and what kind of person [Sater] is,” attorney Richard Lerner said in Brooklyn federal court Monday afternoon. “By allowing this regime of secrecy to continue, it’s facilitating what may have been fraud by President Trump.”

It was unclear from the court proceeding what acts by Trump could possibly be construed as criminal. But after court ended, Lerner told Newsweek that if Trump knowingly did real estate with a convicted felon, that could constitute financial fraud.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/trump-sater-mafia-mob-bayrock-russia-court-brooklyn-fraud-behar-627408%3famp=1

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DONALD TRUMP, FELIX SATER AND THE MOB: LAWYERS PUSH TO UNSEAL COURT DOCUMENTS (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 2017 OP

So what did the judge order done?? sharedvalues Jun 2017 #1

Sounds like they closed court to continue discussion, so we don't know yet. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #6

I have been waiting all day to hear about this! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #2

Sorry I missed it orangecrush Jun 2017 #9

No worries! Just meant that was really hoping to hear anything about it! Glad you posted this! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #10

Deja vu all over again... Rollo Jun 2017 #3

Last time we came out of it o.k. orangecrush Jun 2017 #8

A Department of Justice lawyer told Judge Pamela Chen that unsealing the documents could be unsafe f Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #4

I could see why orangecrush Jun 2017 #7

After over three hours of public arguments, the judge closed the courtroom to reporters and observer Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #5

Thanks for this. MelissaB Jun 2017 #12

... orangecrush Jun 2017 #13

...3....2....1.....AND TWITTER EXPLODES!!!! lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #11

Yeah orangecrush Jun 2017 #14

BREAKING: "Pardoning Exploration Task Force Formed To Research Options" Pluvious Jun 2017 #15

... orangecrush Jun 2017 #16

To say nothing of Joseph Weichselbaum sandensea Jun 2017 #17

Anything? Any new news on this? Decision? Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #18

No news yet orangecrush Jun 2017 #20

Parody Account skwira001 Jun 2017 #19

Thank you! They are good. How did you find them? LOL! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #21

There is this which David Cay Johnston retweeted: Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #22

Thank you orangecrush Jun 2017 #23

Orangecrush I read some of those threads to get more information but... Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #24

Thank you orangecrush Jun 2017 #25

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)

1. So what did the judge order done??

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:27 PM

Jun 2017

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

6. Sounds like they closed court to continue discussion, so we don't know yet.

Reply to sharedvalues (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:53 PM

Jun 2017

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

2. I have been waiting all day to hear about this!

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:30 PM

Jun 2017

Had an OP about it earlier this morning.

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

9. Sorry I missed it

Reply to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:01 PM

Jun 2017

It will be interesting to say the least.

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

10. No worries! Just meant that was really hoping to hear anything about it! Glad you posted this!

Reply to orangecrush (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:07 PM

Jun 2017

Rollo

(2,559 posts)

3. Deja vu all over again...

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:34 PM

Jun 2017

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

8. Last time we came out of it o.k.

Reply to Rollo (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:00 PM

Jun 2017

This time???

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

4. A Department of Justice lawyer told Judge Pamela Chen that unsealing the documents could be unsafe f

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:40 PM

Jun 2017

A Department of Justice lawyer told Judge Pamela Chen that unsealing the documents could be unsafe for Sater or others.

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

7. I could see why

Reply to Madam45for2923 (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:58 PM

Jun 2017

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

5. After over three hours of public arguments, the judge closed the courtroom to reporters and observer

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:53 PM

Jun 2017

After over three hours of public arguments, the judge closed the courtroom to reporters and observers and held additional arguments on whether the documents should be unsealed.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)

12. Thanks for this.

Reply to Madam45for2923 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:14 PM

Jun 2017

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

13. ...

Reply to MelissaB (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:57 PM

Jun 2017

Very welcome!

And my thanks to those fighting for us!

Which, considering the type of people they are going after, could literally be dangerous.

Brave folks.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)

11. ...3....2....1.....AND TWITTER EXPLODES!!!!

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:13 PM

Jun 2017

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

14. Yeah

Reply to lindysalsagal (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:58 PM

Jun 2017

I don't think 45 wants those records unsealed....

Pluvious

(4,315 posts)

15. BREAKING: "Pardoning Exploration Task Force Formed To Research Options"

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:58 PM

Jun 2017

I just hope us Tax Payers aren't footing the bill.

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

16. ...

Reply to Pluvious (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:59 PM

Jun 2017

sandensea

(21,657 posts)

17. To say nothing of Joseph Weichselbaum

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:08 AM

Jun 2017

Thrice convicted for drug trafficking offenses, and reputedly a partner in Trump's (failed) forays into the casino bidness.

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

18. Anything? Any new news on this? Decision?

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:11 AM

Jun 2017

Waiting! waiting! ....

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

20. No news yet

Reply to Madam45for2923 (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:42 PM

Jun 2017

If you hear anything, please message me, I would appreciate it.

skwira001

(45 posts)

19. Parody Account

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:06 AM

Jun 2017

Please follow @felix_sater on twitter. This is a great parody account with a playlist pinned explaining everything you need to know about this man.

Also, @johnsweeneyroar is the one who interviewed Trump. Pinned on his feed is a summary video including the interview.

Be sure to follow those 2 accounts and RT the pinned tweets.

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

21. Thank you! They are good. How did you find them? LOL!

Reply to skwira001 (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:56 PM

Jun 2017

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

22. There is this which David Cay Johnston retweeted:

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 06:54 PM

Jun 2017

Link to tweet

Here's the result of the hearing #FelixSater - for those of you in this thread that are interested.

Link to tweet

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

23. Thank you

Reply to Madam45for2923 (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:21 PM

Jun 2017

And could you please interpret the tweets for those like myself who are twitter challenged?

One seems to say no results after 4 hours, the other seems to say docs will be released.

Your help is appreciated!

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

24. Orangecrush I read some of those threads to get more information but...

Reply to orangecrush (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:37 PM

Jun 2017

I know almost as much as you but I gathered that some documents unsealed but only Mueller gets access.
I am waiting to hear more honestly. Maybe David Cay Johnston or Rachel Maddow will explain further.
Just thought to post in case people can make sense of it or had more to add... or just to update something!

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)

25. Thank you

Reply to Madam45for2923 (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:11 PM

Jun 2017

I really appreciate the update!

Please keep us posted!

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