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I can't help but loathe these people.
So does Stein, with the benefit of hindsight, have any regrets? I dont think so, she tells me by phone from her home in Lexington, Massachusetts. Decrying fake news, citing the sabotage of Bernie Sanders and talking up the tremendous campaign she could have run with more money, Stein is projecting a Trump-worthy level of defiance. I consider it a great honor that the party and our prior campaign for president is suddenly being attacked outside of an election season, she says.
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I thought I might be able to find some daylight between Stein and other Green Party leaders, who I expected might be troubled at any role they might have played in helping elect a man who once claimed climate change was a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese.
I was wrong.
In some ways, Trump is one of the best things to happen to this country because look at how many people are getting off their posteriors, says Sherry Wells, the Green Partys Michigan chairwoman. So part of me is giggling.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/20/jill-stein-green-party-no-regrets-2016-215281
Didn't I read somewhere a while back that Jill Stein made millions this last year?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)People who voted for stein had every right to do that. People who stayed home, OTOH, are the ones who should be held responsible.
I'm saying that still thinking stein and her voters are idiots, but that's their right.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)in that category...they are miserable people who hurt everything they touch...fuck them. This time as in 2000, they have blood on their hands... this person is a giggling sociopath just like the GOP types...hope she suffer 1000 times worse than those she threw under the bus.
kcr
(15,318 posts)Actually, I would argue that voting for Giggles was worse. There are various reasons why many people stayed home, and not all of them had to do with wanting to screw with our elections. Our country doesn't make it easy for a lot of its citizens to vote, neither through the process itself nor efforts to educate and engage voters. Our media is much to blame. But voting for Jill Stein was a deliberate act to thwart the victory of the more liberal party. People have every right to condemn anyone who made that choice.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)and they are of course within their rights to promote the most racist, anti-democratic, hateful regime to ever exist in America. That is what they wanted, and that is how they voted.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)It's ridiculous to lay the blame for Trump on people who DIDN'T vote for him.
3_Limes
(363 posts)Her word-for-word, pitch perfect repetition of the Kremlin line on the '16 election bothers me a lot. Sure, it could be an innocent coincidence.
But it's not.
And that puts her on the same shelf as Flynn, Manafort, Kushner & Co. They're all enemies of American democracy.
nini
(16,672 posts)Well fuck off Sherry
Not all of us are in a position to ride out a full economic meltdown etc.. So nice this is all amusing because of their purity.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)all the more so since she got to pocket millions of dollars she raised but never spent on recounts.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)They should change their name...they have done more damage to the environment than Exon(Change your damn name liars!) with their spoiling of elections...a giant fuck you to Stein, Saradon and all other greens who are the enemy as much as any Republican.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)They understand there have been novels written about such things . . . based on actual history . . .
NCjack
(10,279 posts)go for a political home? I think the apportionment would be 1/2 LIB, 1/4 DEM, 1/4 GOP. That is, no advantage to DEM or GOP.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)Why would anyone assume those votes would go to Democratic candidates? If those people wanted to vote for the Democrats on the ticket, they would have.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Some probably don't count as Green pals anymore, and some might just not have admitted to second thoughts.
Some of them will even be voting Democratic next time.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Of course they don't regret it. They worked hard to install fascism in America. It's their greatest success.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)if they are poor or middleclass. Part of her is giggling while Blacks and Hispanics stand an even greater chance of being gunned down with no justice after. Part of her is giggling while Trump roll back environmental protections to pre Nixon era.
Archae
(46,344 posts)Stein is an anti-vaxxer.
REP
(21,691 posts)And I really, truly dislike that sanctimonious hypocrite - but Clinton won the popular vote decisively. People will argue forever (it seems) about the electoral vote, but I think most will agree Green voters didn't move the needle in any state.
I think some Green voters are delusional; I think (perhaps hope) that the majority are idealistic and naïve. Stein herself is a moron; if she had more power or influence she'd be a dangerous moron. Green voters are an easy target but I don't think they're really the problem or the enemy. For one reason - there's just not enough of them.
Me.
(35,454 posts)If Trump had lost by a narrow margin, I doubt the GOPers would blame the Libertarians
Trump / Pence Republican 62,984,825 46.09%
Clinton / Kaine Democratic 65,853,516 48.18%
Johnson / Weld Libertarian 4,489,221 3.28%
Stein / Baraka Green 1,457,216 1.07%
McMullin / Finn Independent 731,788 0.54%
Castle / Bradley Constitution 203,010 0.15%
Cha
(297,571 posts)was worse than trump and not to vote for her even in swing states.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)You'd be right, all 3 states Judas Stein got more votes than the difference Hillary Clinton lost by in each state.
So no
Cha
(297,571 posts)Waste" party.
And, I could have told this.. They're brainwashed by Stupid Liars. Of course they don't give a shite about the Planet, the People who are fucked by Fascistrumps.. only their own little feet stomping.
Me.
(35,454 posts)How come many of these disrupters have last names that start with S.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)"Green".
If they were, they could not have allowed votes for maggot to even happen.
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)Stein is friends with Putin for a reason
DinahMoeHum
(21,806 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)Ralph Nader in 2000 gave Florida to Bush allowing the Supreme Court to give it to him.
Jill Stein in 2016, gave Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, to Donald Trump.
The Green party, did more to cause global warming than any single Republican president
LisaM
(27,827 posts)I don't think they should be allowed to call themselves "Greens". They assisted with putting a global oil plutocracy in charge.
trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)she is a friend of Putin ???
Me.
(35,454 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)shame on people who voted for her sorry ass
revmclaren
(2,529 posts)and Stein is giggling!
Pathetic loathsome people!!!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)They knew full-well that a President Trump would be a distinct possibility and that his agenda would be detrimental to the planet. They knew what also happened in 2000's election. Yet JS still decided to run for president, and her camp still attacked the major party that is closest to their supposed beliefs far more than the GOP. These people seem to have the "tanking" mentality. It is similar to baseball, where some fans think that if their team can't win it all, it might be better to lose out, have a fire sale, and rise up with better prospects. They won't openly admit it, but the Greens and their followers think their best chance of getting 100% of what they want is for the GOP to continue winning and setting the country back (instead of Democrats winning), and for enough people to start voting Green once everything is in ruins.