and the system of government that ALL of us rely on for our daily lives.

Too bad almost half the country is unaware of this.

Because she has the right to say whatever it is she wants to, but there are more pressing things to worry about than fat-shaming, like Bannon saying that he wants to de-construct this country, which would affect us ALL way more.

Has Chelsea made a statement about Bannon wanting to de-construct this country, or is it LESS worthy than talking about fat-shaming?

somewhere down the road, somebody determined that Chelsea is only allowed to make one statement ever, and she wasted it calling out Steve Bannon for fat-shaming.

But I sense anti-Clinton feeling as well.

I did almost spit out my coffee at the "only allowed to make one statement ever".

In fact, given the fact that poor Chelsea was hammered over her own looks when she was an adolescent, I say good for her to stand up when someone else gets criticized.

pretty much all of our politicians are no good and we need to start WAY over.

But that position is one neither I or we can afford to have at this time, is it!

Right now even the far left liberals like myself, the democratic socialist liberals, the tax rates need to almost be DOUBLE liberals, understand the situation we are in, and that we are a 2 party system, not a 3 party system.

That were it up to me I would never vote again for a Clinton or for that matter anyone with more than a million dollars in the bank, but it aint up to me, not now anyway.

What is up to me is I can do one of ONLY TWO THINGS each and every election day. I can vote against the fascist murderers, or I can not.

I choose to always vote against them.

I take that as a given. I am not the CEO of a major corporation. I didn't graduate from an Ivy League school with Skipper and Taffy.

But there are some politicians out there who are determined to END me, and in very unpleasant ways. Until I can cheerfully vote FOR someone, I will happily vote against them.

As I said, she has every right to say what she wants to say, but so do I and ....

I don't recall her saying anything about the way Ted Nugent threatened HER mother or threatened Pres. Obama, yet she was all over the Kathy Griffin thing denouncing her ASAP, and now she's commenting on this fat-shaming issue when Bannon said that he wants to de-construct this country?

So, Bannon fat-shaming Spicer is more important than him saying that he wants to de-construct this country?

She has called out the nuge, Bannon, Trump, and others. Stop using her call out of Bannon as an excuse for your anti-Clinton crap.

she should keep her opinion to herself and not smile while doing it........

There's a lot more pressing things for me than posting on DU.

"Has Chelsea made a statement about Bannon wanting to..."

Seems an inquisitive mind possessing sincerity on the topic would already know that rather than presupposing a negative. That being said, it seems intellectually shallow to presume that concern for A contains an implicit denial of concern for B, D, D and/or F.

Maybe I should say that fat-shaming just doesn't seem as important to ME as what treasonous tRumputin is doing TO this country, with aid and comfort from the GOP and the ruskies. You do realize that with the russian interference and with GOP-lead voter-suppression, that all 50 states maybe be affected the next time around, which means that we may not even get a fair chance to vote in 2018 and 2020?

No, I guess for some fat-shaming is WAY more important than ruskie interference is into our elections (Per Clint Watts, James Comey, John Brennan) or the fact that the GOP will be voter-suppressing Dems off the chain in 2018 and 2020, which will pretty much mean the end of the Dems as we know it. IF the thuglicans secure a few more State Houses, it's Koch Brothers, meet the Constitution, then what? Yes, the Supreme Court HAS made a few rulings that has made right 2 situations--one dealing with voter-suppression the other gerrymandering. However, what happens when the court starts ruling the other way (The court is has a 5-4 majority to the right) and allows other forms of voter-suppression that can and will be done to Dems all across this country? Like the GOP has any conscience when it comes to them having complete power, even if it means the ruskies will be screwing it's fellow citizens because they can meddle in our elections? You see that health care bill they're doing in the dark which they won't allow to be scored or seen by Dems or by anyone, right?

My bad, I guess fat-shaming is WAY more important than possibly losing health my care, being able to vote, or being voter-suppressed AGAIN courtesy of the treasonous GOP and treasonous tRumputin.

I mean, they are hypocritical and dangerous 100% of the time, so does that mean we can't pick any one issue in a day to poke at them for? You know, one today, and another one tomorrow? We have to snipe at each other because other issues didn't get noticed today by one person?

Christ on a trailer hitch, every Democrat in the country -- including every Clinton -- stays up nights worrying about the loss of healthcare and democracy.

But when Hillary talks about the Russians, she gets kicked in the teeth yet again for supposedly relitigating the election. I do hope you have been supporting Chelsea's mother in her calm, measured, and analytical post-election statements, and not indicating she should go gently into that good night.

Of course you have.

Why don't these people just go away?

I supported Hillary mightily (Phone banking in 2008/2016), and donated as well (And like many of us, I live on a very tight budget) during both of her runs as POTUS. In fact, I stayed working phone banks an extra 3 weeks during Summer/Fall 2016 even though I really needed oral surgery which I eventually got. I was in a great deal of pain phone-banking daily, up extremely early most mornings and not sleeping, but spoke with Hillary voters urging them to get out to vote for her/Kaine until I could no longer take the pain just days before Nov. 8th. So believe me, I don't suffer from Clinton derangement syndrome as some accuse me of--I respect, support and love Hillary for all she's accomplished and tried to accomplish--in the face of the misogyny, lies spewed and hatred ginned up against her over a 30 year plus period by the right, and even in some circumstances the so-called liberal media. After she took a much-needed break after being cheated out of the 45th presidency, Hillary's made her way back out on the scene to continue the fight for health care 25 years later--thank God & on her terms. To think that Dems ONLY get 10 hours per evil-McConnell to read through that POS, privileged, white male, right-winged, death bill is just .... I can't even wrap my head around it when I think about it. 1/6 of our economy being crafted by privileged, white, male, GOP senator in a dark in a closet named Mitch McConnell.

As for Chelsea, like I said, she has the right to tweet or speak on whatever her hearts desire. However, I said that in the scheme of things, a racist POS douche bag fat-shaming another GOP douche-bag doesn't mean as much to me as thinking about 23 million people (Myself included, even though I live in an extremely blue state:CA.) losing our health care. This health care situation has to be talked about 24/7, because it's literally a matter of life and death which could go down next week as McConnell rams it through, and I know you know that as I've read many of your posts here @ DU speaking about this country's health care debacle.

IF this POS bill is voted on and passed next week--just in time so thuglican Senators who ARE for this death bill can go home to enjoy THEIR 4th of July holiday--people will die as a result as early as 2018. Thankfully, there however "appears" to be a few Republican Senators (Mike Lee, deep red Utah, making face book videos/posts saying that he even hasn't seen the bill, and to call him if you've questions about it) who are having serious doubts about voting to pass a bill that McConnell crafted with lobbyists in a closet which we KNOW will mean money transferred from health care which means generous tax cuts going to the wealthiest/lobbyists who don't need that $$, and that's WHY talking about this death bill is more important for ME than even thinking about fat-shaming.

Perhaps you could post a list off issues that we can worry about, in order of acceptable priority?

That would be most helpful.

But fat-shaming doesn't mean one hill of beans to me at this time, especially not when my vote may not even count if the GOP has it's way with voter-suppression in 2018/2020, with aid and comfort from the russians who will have their interference/meddling down PAT come the next election cycles.

It's not like THIS crooked DOJ lead by lying AG beauguard would CARE about Dems being treated unfairly when it came to voting. We know the orange menace is in bed with and beholden TO the ruskies, putting our country and our democracy at risk we've never seen before.

I guess fat-shaming is more important than being voter-suppressed by the GOP or being able to vote fairly in my OWN country without having to worry about ruskie interference.

What, exactly, might Chelsea Clinton realistically do to combat voter suppression by the GOP? Or to influence the outcome of Mueller's investigation?


As it is, she's a private (though visible) citizen calling Bannon out for being an asshole, and she's both right and within her rights to do so.

And as I've said, Chelsea has the right to say what she feels but so do I, and I'm WAY more worried about that racist POS Bannon de-constructing this country than I am worrying about him as a douche bag fat-shaming another douche bag.

When I think about the fact that we're thisclose to losing health insurance thanks to the GOP in this country, calling out crazy, racist Bannon for fat-shaming that lying dupe Spicer doesn't mean squat to me.

I would imagine that Ms. Clinton does not share some of the items that are high on your list. Variety is the spice of life.

As for healthcare and Bannon and Spicer, I don't worry about any of it. Why? Because there is literally nothing that I can do about any of it, so worrying would serve no purpose whatsoever.

IF fat-shamer is WAYYYYY more important to Chelsea than 23 million losing their health care/and God knows HOW many potentially losing their lives because they don't have any health care thanks to treasonous thuglicans/tRumputin/Bannon types, then let me at least hold out "hope" that 23 million losing their health care/and God knows HOW many potentially losing their lives because they don't have any health care is at least a TINY bit more important to her.

Goof grief

"The White House using fat shaming to justify increased opacity."

Those are Chelsea's words. You've ignored the actual point of the tweet in order to justify attacking a Clinton

She tweeted about it, and the tweet will have zero impact except, apparently, to irritate you.

What would have been the impact if she'd tweeted about healthcare or Spicer? Zero.

Bannon isn't making proclamations about doing away with the courts.

I saw the thrust of the message calling out the opacity of communication and the utter ridiculousness of the excuse for doing so. I see nothing problematic with what she said.

because while Bannon should be ashamed for saying such a thing, there have been a number of threads here on our forum where posters have been called out by fellow DUers for "fat shaming" members of the Republican party, namely Trump himself. So the moral high ground is sort of off limits for some folks.

because they're so fat...it's a steep climb to get over them...

IS WHAT A DIRTY HYPOCRITICAL FAT SHAMER SHAMER WOULD SAY!

but not me.

On a serious note, fuck Steve Bannon.

And I will not disclose whether or not I chuckled at your take on being forced to "go high."

I see nothink!

/schultzie

wherever we go we will always be higher then them without trying.

implies that we can afford to descend a long way but be satisfied with still being superior to the Trump administration. Not good enough. Nobody should allow themselves to sink even close to that level.

Is that Bannon is using it to excuse the Trump's admin hostility toward informing the public--not merely the fat shaming itself, which she certainly realizes is a constant occurrence.

This is one of many things she's tweeted

Jeez the Clinton Derangement Syndrome is really strong

Second one on this thread

Bye Jacquette. Welcome to ignore.

I am not however, in thrall to the name Clinton. Or any politician. Not nowadays. And I reserve the right to say that.

May I? Do I have your permission?

Oasn: why do people feel the need to announce I'm ignoring you! with such fanfare? Just freaking do it....Or...don't let words on a computer screen send you screaming into the night

Link to tweet

My gods

A contained..

It must be mentally constraining for you to believe that one tweet indicates an entire narrative.

Chelsea seems like a very nice young woman, but to me she does appear to be politically tone-deaf.

Link to tweet

Chelsea STAYS on this loss of health care issue, because the fat-shaming one is a total loser--and I'm pretty sure that a majority of those 23 MILLION people potentially losing their health care thanks to the GOP and Bannon is way more important than scolding him for fat-shaming.

They are just rotten soulless bastards.

My gods, again

You're , Hekate

you have chosen to post a half dozen times about what a private citizen who holds NO public office chooses to comment about. Is that really worth your time, what with all the problems you could be solving instead of worrying about what Chelsea is doing?

that's even dumber than what _I_ posted...

He's got a lotta nerve saying Spicer got fat.

This is like a middle school where the kids torture and torment the outsider.

It is hard to feel sympathy for Spicer, but I am getting there.

people on his television shows

The right wing forces are going to savage her for this.

But Bannon, trying to shame anybody else for getting "fatter"? That's like trump accusing somebody of being "articulate."

Trump and Bannon have got to be the most insecure people