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trentwestcott

(83 posts)
10. That's it.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:35 PM
Jun 2017

All this investigating that's going on may or may not amount to much, but if we only get ONE thing done between now and 2020 it needs to be protecting the integrity of the vote, period. I'm going to be pretty upset if we pour all this attention and energy into chasing our collective tails on an investigation that doesn't pan out and then in the meantime we have to "trust" the electronic voting machines again. I'm not saying we should pull away from the investigation, but we should be matching the amount of fury that we're putting into the investigations with a movement to secure the vote via a paper ballot system.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
2. Voter caging, voter ID, gerrymandering, etc. These are how GOP win elections
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:22 PM
Jun 2017

That and a healthy dose of public idiocy.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
8. Voter caging, voter ID, gerrymandering, etc. These are how GOP win elections.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:47 PM
Jun 2017

You didn't need the ruskies to get involved with this particular election in a Ruby red district which was drawn up FOR thuglicans.

But make no mistake about it, the ruskies will be around in 2018 and in 2020 with new and improved meddling techiques. Don't take my word for it.

16 US intelligence agencies said that they meddled into our 2016 GE, are still MEDDLING in some ways and working hard to improve what they can do to affect our elections right now per Clint Watts, and that they'll be back--James Comey/John Brennan.

It's bad enough that our voting apparatus IS so damn vulnerable, but on top of that Dems are screwed 1,000 ways from Sunday in 2018 and 2020 unless something "miraculous" happens IE: We come out to actually vote an our votes count and aren't voter-purged, voter-crosschecked, gerrymandered, voter ID'd off of voting data bases and voter rolls and whatever ELSE thuglicans and their new buddies the ruskies use to make Dems votes "disappear" during the next rounds of votes in 2018 and 2020.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
6. Uh...I wouldn't make that proclamation yet!!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:30 PM
Jun 2017

How can you know at this point the results were not hacked - and that the Russians were not involved?!

Anything that helps Trump - is perceived by Putin as helping Putin!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. It's a heavily Repub district, so yeah.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:32 PM
Jun 2017

If we whine that every election we lose is because of Russia, we look stupid. And we become a laughing stock.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
9. I think the same thing goes for whining the election was stolen
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:29 PM
Jun 2017

every time we lose. It was a heavily Republican district we had little chance of winning in the first place.

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