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Raven

(13,891 posts)
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:54 AM Jun 2017

Was there no one else who could have run against Handel?

I liked him very much but he was inexperienced and didn't live in the district. When you are trying to reverse decades of Republican rule, couldn't the Dems have found someone more formidable?

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Was there no one else who could have run against Handel? (Original Post) Raven Jun 2017 OP
No, 4 other Dems ran in the April runoff. They got a total of 2,000 votes between them... Cattledog Jun 2017 #1
did those other 4 live in the district? pstokely Jun 2017 #3
Not sure about that but most likely yes. Cattledog Jun 2017 #17
Not blaming him DK504 Jun 2017 #7
I wondered the same thing. femmocrat Jun 2017 #2
At least he tried. Hats off to Ossoff from running. nikibatts Jun 2017 #4
No Democratic candidate GulfCoast66 Jun 2017 #5
He never ran ads tying Handel to 45. That was a big mistake, imo. LonePirate Jun 2017 #6
I don't get that leftstreet Jun 2017 #9
Lots of people said Hillary made a mistake by focusing too much on Trump's negatives. dawg Jun 2017 #14
This is post-election Trump. Different game n/t leftstreet Jun 2017 #15
The game hasn't changed. dawg Jun 2017 #16
No, I mean he's not delivering for his constituents leftstreet Jun 2017 #18
While it seems like it's been half a lifetime to us, it's only been a few months to them. dawg Jun 2017 #20
Trump was toxic for Handel leftstreet Jun 2017 #21
he is deporting and trYing to ban others from coming here JI7 Jun 2017 #25
He got 49% of the vote in the first round, including against other Dems. Yo_Mama Jun 2017 #8
zactly. JHan Jun 2017 #12
Ossoff outperformed in a beet red district people. JHan Jun 2017 #10
Not exactly beet red. former9thward Jun 2017 #23
We have not won that district since Carter. JHan Jun 2017 #24
Ossoff ran a strong race. But I think him living outside the district and Handel Blue_true Jun 2017 #11
I hope he runs again in 2018. JHan Jun 2017 #13
they would've ran they same ads connecting him to Pelosi no matter what pstokely Jun 2017 #19
Nancy Pelosi has done a lot for Democrats, she led brilliantly through the Bush years. Blue_true Jun 2017 #31
meh... Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #22
lol JHan Jun 2017 #26
I like it. Iggo Jun 2017 #30
No. We could have run a Ultra-conservi-dem and not won. It was a gerrymandered Red district. haele Jun 2017 #27
I think obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2017 #28
Welcome to the Deep Red South! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #29
any dem is going to have to go up against the trump effect.... samnsara Jun 2017 #32
Old football maxim: what could have happened, did. n/t Orsino Jun 2017 #33

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
1. No, 4 other Dems ran in the April runoff. They got a total of 2,000 votes between them...
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jun 2017

Ossoff got 93,000 alone. Fair and square.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
7. Not blaming him
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

for living outside the district for his loss, but.... it would have helped. The distrcit also shows how fucking stupid these people are, to knowingly put this bitch in office that purges voter rolls and want to take away their healthcare.

Those are some seriously stupid pathetic rubes.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. I wondered the same thing.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jun 2017

I didn't think Ossoff was quite ready for prime time. It was a tough race even for an experienced politician.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
4. At least he tried. Hats off to Ossoff from running.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:06 AM
Jun 2017

If anyone out there thinks they can do better in any of the races coming up, go on and run!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. No Democratic candidate
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jun 2017

Was going to win this seat. Republicans outnumber democrats by around 10% and they are affluent people who vote.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
6. He never ran ads tying Handel to 45. That was a big mistake, imo.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:15 AM
Jun 2017

That allowed Handel to frame herself as separate and distinct from 45 even though they are clearly two peas in a pod.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. Lots of people said Hillary made a mistake by focusing too much on Trump's negatives.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017

Seems like neither approach is a magic bullet.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
16. The game hasn't changed.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jun 2017

Everything we now know about Trump was already abundantly evident before the November election.

People want to criticize those who tried to stand against these devils. It's comforting, I guess, for them to think that if we'd only done this or that differently - we would've won.

But the truth is scarier and uglier than that.

There's no off-ramp on this highway to Hell. Things are going to have to get really bad before enough voters will be willing to make a change.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
18. No, I mean he's not delivering for his constituents
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

Where's the wall?

Where's the tax cuts?

Where's the stupendous healthcare plan?

All hiding under the new coal jobs?

Regardless of what we think of the REASONS people voted for him, he's failing

dawg

(10,624 posts)
20. While it seems like it's been half a lifetime to us, it's only been a few months to them.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jun 2017

Most people don't follow politics like we do. As far as they are concerned, he's delivering.

The Obamacare repeal has been slowly moving forward. They like that he's been deporting people. They like that he's attempted to discriminate against Muslims. They love the fact that they were able to steal a Supreme Court seat.

They haven't paid any price for Trump yet.

And, I'm afraid, they, and we, are going to have to pay severely. Nothing will change with voters until devastation rains down upon us.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
21. Trump was toxic for Handel
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jun 2017

I posted these article snips last night. Trump is already toxic for his candidates. She knew it and avoided talking about him during the campaign

I just don't get why Ossoff didn't nail her butt on the Trump association


....................
Republicans grapple with talking Trump on the trail
June 19, 2017

snip
About 230 miles away, Karen Handel—the Republican candidate in Georgia’s special election—stood next to trays of sweet-smelling barbecue and avoided even mentioning Trump’s name under a barrage of questions from reporters.

But the upscale Atlanta-area district, which Trump barely won last year despite its traditional Republican lean, is not enamored with the new president. Republicans familiar with polling there say Trump’s approval ratings are now underwater after suffering a slight drop since April.

Meanwhile, Handel has found herself walking a tightrope, willing to appear with Trump but also lobbing the occasional criticism at him, saying during a June debate with Ossoff that she would “recommend some Twitter policy changes.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article157021054.html#storylink=cpy

Karen Handel welcomes Donald Trump's support, but she doesn't want to talk about it
May 1, 2017

snip
Karen Handel is still trying to have it both ways in the wake of Donald Trump’s fundraiser for her. The Republican House candidate knows Trump dramatically underperformed in Georgia’s 6th Congressional District, but she’s can’t afford to alienate his base. So when Neil Cavuto asked, she had her weaselly talking points ready:

“He’s the president of the United States, so to be able to have the President’s support is a good thing, especially in a very solid Republican district,” she said. “With that said, it’s the press and the Ossoff folks and the Democrats who want to make this about the president. This is about the people of the 6th District.”

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/1/1657872/-Karen-Handel-welcomes-Donald-Trump-s-support-but-she-doesn-t-want-to-talk-about-it

Karen Handel blasts Jon Ossoff as Pelosi clone while Trump rarely comes up
June 6, 2017

snip
Ironically, President Trump received scant mention during the one-hour faceoff, despite the facts that the race is viewed nationally as a proxy on his leadership and that the liberal grassroots have flooded Ossoff's campaign with millions of dollars to register their opposition to the administration. Ossoff never explicitly attempted to tie Handel to Trump, a move that his campaign aide said after the debate was by design.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/karen-handel-blasts-jon-ossoff-as-pelosi-clone-while-trump-rarely-comes-up/article/2625161

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
8. He got 49% of the vote in the first round, including against other Dems.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

He was a pretty darned good candidate for that district.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
24. We have not won that district since Carter.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jun 2017

And the salient point is Ossoff's momentum is something to build on not dismiss. Price won it just 7 months ago by 23 points.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Ossoff ran a strong race. But I think him living outside the district and Handel
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

being known in the biggest county is what created her margin. Although I think if Osdoff had lived in the district, he would have likely won.

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
19. they would've ran they same ads connecting him to Pelosi no matter what
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:51 AM
Jun 2017

and they will try that again in 2018

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Nancy Pelosi has done a lot for Democrats, she led brilliantly through the Bush years.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jun 2017

She helped Obama pass monumental legislation for two years. But I think that she should yield leadership to a new generation that is less vulnerable to republican attacks, people like Seth Moulton who are liberal and have military experience, them cutting the bloated military budget will be less of a problem than Pelosi and her current leadership team doing so.

haele

(12,654 posts)
27. No. We could have run a Ultra-conservi-dem and not won. It was a gerrymandered Red district.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jun 2017

GA-6 is a bunch of well-off white suburbs that was designed in 2010 to carry a "reliable" 9% GOP lead for all elections. The Mega-Mall Churches of Mammon (Prosperity Gospel branch) have the GOP in their back pockets - and Karen Handel is the darling of that group for her "principled stance" against Gays and Women's issues and her acting the role of "Lady of the Manor".

That Ossoff came close should be a warning for the GOP that they're losing a lot of their core cult membership, but they'll go on doubling down on the bigotry and economic cruelty because they believe Gawd is on their side, and this is a holy war.

Haele

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
29. Welcome to the Deep Red South!
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jun 2017

Where left-wingers, liberals, progressives, left-of-center, and Blue Dog DINO's bash their brains in trying to beat "gerrymandering"!

Let's see if the US Supreme Court has something to say about political parties rigging elections in their favor!

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
32. any dem is going to have to go up against the trump effect....
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

....we seem to always blame the candidate and the campaign. The truth (to me) is we are fighting ignorance, hate and a lot of fear. We are teachers of the world.

I'm atheist but spent a goodly amount of time in churches and studied world religions and seems that anyone who is a member of any of those great religions knows.....and celebrate... their history of struggling for their beliefs. The Christians and the Roman soldiers! Christians were killed and tortured and made to be insignificant but did they blame the messenger.. Jesus? They didn't say 'lets run another candidate....get another spokes person'...they didn't join the other side.. they fought and fought and fought and they had a simple message. And some of the newer religions.. such the Mormons.. look what they endured. They didn't retreat every time there was a loss.

So buck up...stay off MSM today....hunker down with like minded folks who will reinforce the RESIST message and don't give up!! We are NOT through we are NOT weakened we are NOT losing.
jmtcw

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