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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWas there no one else who could have run against Handel?
I liked him very much but he was inexperienced and didn't live in the district. When you are trying to reverse decades of Republican rule, couldn't the Dems have found someone more formidable?
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)Ossoff got 93,000 alone. Fair and square.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)?
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)But if you can only get 500 votes doesn't really matter.
DK504
(3,847 posts)for living outside the district for his loss, but.... it would have helped. The distrcit also shows how fucking stupid these people are, to knowingly put this bitch in office that purges voter rolls and want to take away their healthcare.
Those are some seriously stupid pathetic rubes.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I didn't think Ossoff was quite ready for prime time. It was a tough race even for an experienced politician.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)If anyone out there thinks they can do better in any of the races coming up, go on and run!
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Was going to win this seat. Republicans outnumber democrats by around 10% and they are affluent people who vote.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)That allowed Handel to frame herself as separate and distinct from 45 even though they are clearly two peas in a pod.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)He let her skate
dawg
(10,624 posts)Seems like neither approach is a magic bullet.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)Everything we now know about Trump was already abundantly evident before the November election.
People want to criticize those who tried to stand against these devils. It's comforting, I guess, for them to think that if we'd only done this or that differently - we would've won.
But the truth is scarier and uglier than that.
There's no off-ramp on this highway to Hell. Things are going to have to get really bad before enough voters will be willing to make a change.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Where's the wall?
Where's the tax cuts?
Where's the stupendous healthcare plan?
All hiding under the new coal jobs?
Regardless of what we think of the REASONS people voted for him, he's failing
dawg
(10,624 posts)Most people don't follow politics like we do. As far as they are concerned, he's delivering.
The Obamacare repeal has been slowly moving forward. They like that he's been deporting people. They like that he's attempted to discriminate against Muslims. They love the fact that they were able to steal a Supreme Court seat.
They haven't paid any price for Trump yet.
And, I'm afraid, they, and we, are going to have to pay severely. Nothing will change with voters until devastation rains down upon us.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)I posted these article snips last night. Trump is already toxic for his candidates. She knew it and avoided talking about him during the campaign
I just don't get why Ossoff didn't nail her butt on the Trump association
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Republicans grapple with talking Trump on the trail
June 19, 2017
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About 230 miles away, Karen Handelthe Republican candidate in Georgias special electionstood next to trays of sweet-smelling barbecue and avoided even mentioning Trumps name under a barrage of questions from reporters.
But the upscale Atlanta-area district, which Trump barely won last year despite its traditional Republican lean, is not enamored with the new president. Republicans familiar with polling there say Trumps approval ratings are now underwater after suffering a slight drop since April.
Meanwhile, Handel has found herself walking a tightrope, willing to appear with Trump but also lobbing the occasional criticism at him, saying during a June debate with Ossoff that she would recommend some Twitter policy changes.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article157021054.html#storylink=cpy
Karen Handel welcomes Donald Trump's support, but she doesn't want to talk about it
May 1, 2017
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Karen Handel is still trying to have it both ways in the wake of Donald Trumps fundraiser for her. The Republican House candidate knows Trump dramatically underperformed in Georgias 6th Congressional District, but shes cant afford to alienate his base. So when Neil Cavuto asked, she had her weaselly talking points ready:
Hes the president of the United States, so to be able to have the Presidents support is a good thing, especially in a very solid Republican district, she said. With that said, its the press and the Ossoff folks and the Democrats who want to make this about the president. This is about the people of the 6th District.
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/1/1657872/-Karen-Handel-welcomes-Donald-Trump-s-support-but-she-doesn-t-want-to-talk-about-it
Karen Handel blasts Jon Ossoff as Pelosi clone while Trump rarely comes up
June 6, 2017
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Ironically, President Trump received scant mention during the one-hour faceoff, despite the facts that the race is viewed nationally as a proxy on his leadership and that the liberal grassroots have flooded Ossoff's campaign with millions of dollars to register their opposition to the administration. Ossoff never explicitly attempted to tie Handel to Trump, a move that his campaign aide said after the debate was by design.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/karen-handel-blasts-jon-ossoff-as-pelosi-clone-while-trump-rarely-comes-up/article/2625161
JI7
(89,249 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)He was a pretty darned good candidate for that district.
JHan
(10,173 posts)former9thward
(32,006 posts)Trump only won by 1.5%.
JHan
(10,173 posts)And the salient point is Ossoff's momentum is something to build on not dismiss. Price won it just 7 months ago by 23 points.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)being known in the biggest county is what created her margin. Although I think if Osdoff had lived in the district, he would have likely won.
JHan
(10,173 posts)pstokely
(10,528 posts)and they will try that again in 2018
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She helped Obama pass monumental legislation for two years. But I think that she should yield leadership to a new generation that is less vulnerable to republican attacks, people like Seth Moulton who are liberal and have military experience, them cutting the bloated military budget will be less of a problem than Pelosi and her current leadership team doing so.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)haele
(12,654 posts)GA-6 is a bunch of well-off white suburbs that was designed in 2010 to carry a "reliable" 9% GOP lead for all elections. The Mega-Mall Churches of Mammon (Prosperity Gospel branch) have the GOP in their back pockets - and Karen Handel is the darling of that group for her "principled stance" against Gays and Women's issues and her acting the role of "Lady of the Manor".
That Ossoff came close should be a warning for the GOP that they're losing a lot of their core cult membership, but they'll go on doubling down on the bigotry and economic cruelty because they believe Gawd is on their side, and this is a holy war.
Haele
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)he should run again in 2018.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Where left-wingers, liberals, progressives, left-of-center, and Blue Dog DINO's bash their brains in trying to beat "gerrymandering"!
Let's see if the US Supreme Court has something to say about political parties rigging elections in their favor!
samnsara
(17,622 posts)....we seem to always blame the candidate and the campaign. The truth (to me) is we are fighting ignorance, hate and a lot of fear. We are teachers of the world.
I'm atheist but spent a goodly amount of time in churches and studied world religions and seems that anyone who is a member of any of those great religions knows.....and celebrate... their history of struggling for their beliefs. The Christians and the Roman soldiers! Christians were killed and tortured and made to be insignificant but did they blame the messenger.. Jesus? They didn't say 'lets run another candidate....get another spokes person'...they didn't join the other side.. they fought and fought and fought and they had a simple message. And some of the newer religions.. such the Mormons.. look what they endured. They didn't retreat every time there was a loss.
So buck up...stay off MSM today....hunker down with like minded folks who will reinforce the RESIST message and don't give up!! We are NOT through we are NOT weakened we are NOT losing.
jmtcw