There is simply.no.comparison with how ACA was created. Since several Republican amendments were adopted in the final package, it's mystifying how the Republicans can lie with a straight face that they weren't included as part of the process and didn't have a voice in the process. How many Democrats are likely to end up in AHCA? It shouldn't be that hard to guess. Granted, Democrats (rightly) don't want to be part of the process of repealing ACA but still. Plus, ACA was attacked vociferously by burgeoning Republican Tea Party and Republicans in general up to and since its passage, so it's not like they didn't know what was in the bill, though pretty much everything they said was a distortion or a lie and, 7 years hence, their most dire predictions have never come to pass and what they intend to do is take 7 years of progress and more Americans gaining health coverage and completely reverse it- and then some.

And the right wing echo chamber to give alternate facts a safe space

given that they accuse us of being "snowflakes" all the time.

If you ask me

I believe President Obama conducted a live question and answer session with the Republican Party. The ACA was discussed at town hall meetings. Were there not Republican Congressmen and Senators complaining about the number of pages of the bill. I thought sure I saw at least one Congressional Republican saying that any bill that was more than 1,000 pages was a bad bill, or something to that affect.

but patently, blatantly & demonstrably false.

point that we ceeded to try and get Repub buy-in.. Only to have Lucy to pull the damn football away again will never forget.

They lie and lie and lie - and then they still lie

rules to get the ACA passed with simple majority... Not here of course, but in all the damn articles and comments people are claiming that this suspension of the rules the Con's are proposing is the same way we passed it.

I soooo fucking wish that we DID suspend the rules, and get 51 vote majority, because if we DID do that, we'd have had the government option easily.. possibly even single payer.

HR3590 was hard fought WITH 60 votes for cloture!!!!

that a companion law, the "health care and education reconciliation act of 2010" was passed via reconciliation a week after the aca as part of the broader deal.


the reason for the two separate laws was that the senate had already passed, with 60 votes, the aca, but the house wanted changes. sadly, ted kennedy died and eventually was replaced with republican scott brown, so democrats could no longer reach 60 votes to pass a new version. so the house agreed to pass the version the senate had already passed as is, and make the changes they wanted via reconciliation.

it's rather tricky and arcane, but it was strictly following all the rules. republicans love to take advantage in such situation by lying and then forcing democrats to get bogged down in explaining complicated details... uh, like i just did....

He spent a full day trying to get a bipartisan health care bill. In that effort, he took single-payer and public option off of the table (with the help of Joe Lieberman). Remember, until the death of Ted Kennedy, the Democrats had 60 Senators.

McConnell and Boehner dug in. They decided that total obstruction on health care and everything else would bring them back from the disasters of 2006 and 2008.

By putting party and donors before the welfare of citizens, they proved this strategy to be successful. The Kochs and Roger Ailes used lies about the ACA as a cudgel to invent the Tea Party, and re-take the legislature, and eventually install an incompetent (I believe suffering from early dimentia) kleptocrat in the White House.

It is ironic that crafting their bill in secrecy will likely produce a product that can not find the 50 GOP votes it needs in the Senate.Too mean for some.....not mean enough for others. Even if it passes, they will still have some hard arm twisting in the House.

The voters will decide in 2018 what course we take. In my lifetime, I never been dissapointed when I over-estimate the stupidity of the American electorate.