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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTurnout in GA 6 was 57.97%
Let's stop with the low voter turnout stuff. The weather was horrible with monsoon like rain and street flooding as well.
http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/70059/Web02-state/#/
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)That's still pathetic. My earlier thread was based on earlier information. My point remains, however.
On edit: I have corrected the numbers in my earlier thread.
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)everywhere and even added new voters. My entire point is that we need to work on doing that as the first step and work on other things after we have succeeded. There are reasons why people who have taken the step to register still do not vote. We need to understand those reasons and give people new reasons to actually use their registered voter status and vote.
60% is a good turnout, but it's still not what it should be. Everyone who has registered should be voting. I think we should help give them reasons to do that.
We can do better than we do. We should do better than we do. I think we MUST do better than we do, frankly.
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)When Handel was SS she tried her best to keep Dems from running for office. Brian Kemp our current SS tried to limit early voting but
a Judge overruled him.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I'm afraid I can't help your state with that. That's one of the difficulties with our election system, which is state-run. There's no practical way to change that, frankly, so it's going to be up to citizens of each state to insist on fair elections. I'm not sure how that's going to happen, really, in some states.
In the meantime, strong GOTV efforts can overwhelm voter suppression attempts, if supported by legal actions by the party and close monitoring of election operations, with federal lawsuits filed in a timely way.
It's a real problem, I realize.
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)or party got the turnout higher, really. GOTV is a party-based thing. Democrats need to do a better job of getting people to the polls who will vote for Democrats. Screw the Republicans.
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)But more for a greater effort to get Dems to the polls. You'd be happy with an average turnout of 50% of registered voters with a 80% turnout of registered Dems and the Dem candidate won because of the succesful party GOTV effort.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)What I'd really like to see, very frankly, is 100% participation by all adult citizens in every election. That's my real goal. That is the only way we can truly say we are following the will of the people and the only way we can really say we are a truly democratic republic.
However, I see no way for that to become a reality, to be quite frank. Not even close. When we talk about elections, we only talk about the percentage of registered voters who bother to vote. We never really talk about all of those other citizens who are not even registered to vote.
I'd like to start by automatically registering every adult citizen in the United States. Almost all have Social Security Cards. In my opinion, if you have a Social Security number, you should automatically be registered. As of your 18th birthday, you can just show up, provide your SS# and cast your ballot.
I would also like to see a 100% mail-in ballot voting method. In reality the mailing address of almost all American citizens is known, one way or another. Through a wide variety of records, we have people's addresses. Heck, whitepages.com has that information on almost everyone, and can even list the family members and ages pretty accurately. Business databases, drivers license records, and many other sources can pin down a mailing address for almost anyone.
Send the ballots to them, and let them mail them back, postage-free. If you didn't get a ballot in the mail, you can still vote, as you should be able to do on election day if you didn't mail the ballot back. Oregon has a system like that. You'll still need to provide your SS#, which can easily enough be checked to ensure no duplicate votes took place.
Would a tiny percentage of people vote improperly? Probably, but not enough to make any difference, frankly.
We need a national reform of voting practices and methods. We need to take voting away from state and county control. That will probably take a Constitutional Amendment, just as one was needed to set the voting age at 18.
I have no doubt that I will not see such a thing happen. I'm too old and it will take too long for it to happen, but that's what I want. I want to see voter turnout of ELIGIBLE voters go above 80%. We'll still miss some. But, that would be far superior to the way it's done now. We need to make everyone who is eligible a registered voter and then make it so simple to vote that there would be no reason not to.
Then, we could call ourselves a democratic republic and mean it. That idea would scare a lot of people, I'm sure, but it's what we need. Then, we also need to change how campaigns are carried out and fund them publicly, set the times for them sensibly, and provide the technology to enable candidates to use our advanced communications technology to reach people.
So, that's what I'm really arguing for. I'll accept less, of course, out of necessity, though.
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)I'm not kidding. The thinking you put into this and the work you do is laudable!
moose65
(3,166 posts)That means that 42% of the eligible voters didn't vote, after all that money was spent there and that massive GOTV effort. Sheesh. It's hard to believe, really. I don't understand people at all. We need to get that up into the 60s to near 70!
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)delisen
(6,043 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)rgbecker
(4,831 posts)I was getting my turnout numbers from this link:
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/20/live-updates-all-eyes-on-georgias-6th-district-special-election/
I see from the S of S that if 2 out of every 38 who stayed home showed up and voted Democratic, Ossoff might have won.
Everyone should be getting ready for some severe weather in the future if the Republican science deniers continue to run the country.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)if we can get that kind of turnout for 2018, we can flip some seats, I'm sure.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)we're freaking doomed to repeat this shit.
winstars
(4,220 posts)just saying... white people are so funny!!!
Monsoon like rain, fuck that!
Swim to fucking vote, this could be your last chance!