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jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 06:25 PM Jun 2017

The only way to ensure victory in deeply red areas is to make them more diverse.

I've seen quite a few posts here today from well-meaning by naive people who believe that if Democrats simply fine tune or repackage their message to better suit the sensibilities of people in deeply red areas, we'd win more elections in such places. While that strategy may actually work in some instances, it naturally begs the question of how much of our core beliefs (our souls, as it were) are we willing to surrender simply to garner a few more seats in the Congress? Which groups do we throw under the bus to achieve this? African-Americans? LGBT Americans? Muslims? Latinos? Who? Would we even still be Democrats if we kowtowed to prejudices and fears of the people in these areas anyway?

No, my hunch is that we're never going to win the hearts and minds of these people because they see us and our beliefs as everything they despise about contemporary America. The only surefire way to win in these areas is not merely to expand our outreach to such places, but to expand and then energize our voter base there as well. I mentioned in an thread earlier that the key to achieving this may lie in a Supreme Court ruling from June, 2015, that asserted that federal housing laws allows for people to challenge housing practices deemed to have a harmful and injurious impact on minority groups.

In practice, this means that Housing Choice Vouchers to allow poor minorities to move into higher opportunity areas can be issued. Indeed, President Obama had HUD initiate such an effort last year in Maryland to help promote better housing mobility in that state. These vouchers not only help poor minorities find better housing and opportunities in wealthy and upper-middle-class suburban areas, but they help to diversify them as well. This program needs to be expanded and supported in every corner of the nation for the benefit of all.

In addition, we must continue to do our utmost to fight tooth and nail against Dumpo's xenophobic and racist immigration & travel ban. Resettling refugees from the Middle East, Africa and Latin America is not just the humane thing to do, but the smart thing to do if they are resettled in places that are Republican strongholds that currently lack diversity. Nothing will change much election wise until these areas actually reflect what the rest of America...the real America... really looks like. Who knows, it might even have the added benefit of making the provincial rubes and deplorables who mindlessly vote Republican out of hatred and fear more worldly and less afraid once they see that all human beings are the same.

What do you guys think?

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The only way to ensure victory in deeply red areas is to make them more diverse. (Original Post) jcmaine72 Jun 2017 OP
Sounds great, but... trentwestcott Jun 2017 #1
It's a pity about the vouchers. jcmaine72 Jun 2017 #2
I Think that 100,000 liberals moving to Wyoming would turn state blue delisen Jun 2017 #3
You first... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #4
haha ..but Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Jackson Hole.... delisen Jun 2017 #5
 

trentwestcott

(83 posts)
1. Sounds great, but...
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 06:51 PM
Jun 2017

I heard a story on NPR (The World maybe?) about a young divorced African-American mother of one who received a voucher after waiting over two years for it, and who was determined to use it to move to a better neighborhood but was unable to do so because no one in the nicer neighborhoods would accept her voucher, and there was nothing to be done about it. She wound up having to return her voucher after her time to use it ran out.

Vouchers sound great, but I think maybe what's needed might be more...radical? I'm talking about government owned housing, but not the typical project approach. I think once we get back in power we should direct HUD to start buying up properties in the suburbs and housing families there at low to no cost. If we can afford all the other pointless things we pay for then I don't think a few hundred thousand dollars is too much to spend to improve outcomes for a family with children. It's time to stop halfstepping on this stuff.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
2. It's a pity about the vouchers.
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jun 2017

I can't believe that poor woman had no legal recourse. I doubt HUD or any other government agency under this current administration would seek to ameliorate such an outrage.

Your plan to have HUD purchase properties in such areas sounds great. However, sadly, it's contingent on Democrats returning to power. And who knows if said Democrat will see this as a priority the way President Obama apparently towards the end of his presidency? Oh well...

delisen

(6,043 posts)
3. I Think that 100,000 liberals moving to Wyoming would turn state blue
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jun 2017

The gives us 2 senators, I more representative and help save America and the planet.

Let's think big and be imaginative. while we are fighting the selfish on the national stage, and combating the cyber warriors on the international stage, let's build the future we want for our country.

Some of the movers might be subsidized by crowd-funding and grants.

Some might go as a group and build an intentional community--that is a long American tradition.

Others may have retirement income or work-at -home income. I would also look at new non-polluting industry, and startups.

The aim is to have good people who love the earth and other people move to a place they would want to live in anyway.

Wyoming 580,000 population, Liz Cheney current representative. A little growth and a new representative in Wyoming can do a lot for the state and for America.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
5. haha ..but Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Jackson Hole....
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jun 2017

If I could crowd fund my way, I think I would go. It helps to have a business that can be run from anywhere.

Is there a liberal developer who might be interested in a low-impact resort community?

Maybe I can sell the idea to the Trumps as a Free Range Concentration Camp for Liberals -no guards and let them do whatever.

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