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no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:09 AM Jun 2017

One problem among others if Pence is installed as President if Trump resigns or is impeached.

Last edited Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Besides being a religious zealot/Dominionist, Pence could constitutionally serve the remainder of Trump's term and be allowed two four-year terms of his own with the assistance of Russian hacking or other circumstances.

We're talking about nearly 12 years of Pence.

Our situation is really a dilemma as far as what is less onerous.

See my follow-up post below. I WAS WRONG.

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One problem among others if Pence is installed as President if Trump resigns or is impeached. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 OP
I think that is the GOP plan. Installing him after 2018, when he will be eligible for the 2-4-4 secondwind Jun 2017 #1
I don't believe there is a Republican plan to impeach Trump HopeAgain Jun 2017 #8
there is no dilemma. we must first kill the cancer that currently ails us. nt. uncle ray Jun 2017 #2
Where Trump goes, Pence follows. nocalflea Jun 2017 #3
Allowed to run. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #4
We must not fail to impeach Trump simply because Pence is awful Orrex Jun 2017 #5
I agree completely... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2017 #14
Mike Pence was probably going to lose his reelection bid in Indiana DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #6
There are no easy answers to this crisis. MoonRiver Jun 2017 #7
No. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #9
Are you certain? Lyndon Johnson was prepared to run again for his second term in 1968 no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 #12
JFK was killed more than halfway through his term. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #13
At most 10 years, in theory unblock Jun 2017 #10
That problem will go away if Pence is investigated as he should be. nikibatts Jun 2017 #11
Admission of Ignorance. I was wrong. See below no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 #15
Will cross Pence bridge when Chickensoup Jun 2017 #16
He is not popular. He is unlikely to win a second term. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #17
I think the bigger problem is Mitt Romney DaleFromWPB Jun 2017 #18

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
8. I don't believe there is a Republican plan to impeach Trump
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:27 AM
Jun 2017

They are getting what they want and where they are not, it's due to splits in Congress. I don't think they will care about his shenanigans unless they believe it directly threatens individual legislators ability to get re-elected. So far they haven't been shown that.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
5. We must not fail to impeach Trump simply because Pence is awful
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:17 AM
Jun 2017

Set 'em up, knock 'em down. We'll take them one at a time.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
6. Mike Pence was probably going to lose his reelection bid in Indiana
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:19 AM
Jun 2017

It takes a special kind of incompetence for a Republican to lose in Indiana. I don't know where people get the idea that he is some master politician. He's a buffoon.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. There are no easy answers to this crisis.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:19 AM
Jun 2017

But I believe the demented fool has to be run out of office. Then, we take on the next problem.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
9. No.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:27 AM
Jun 2017

If he ascends to office before the halfway mark of Trump's four year term he can only serve the remainder of that term and be elected to one additional term.

no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
12. Are you certain? Lyndon Johnson was prepared to run again for his second term in 1968
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:32 AM
Jun 2017

except he opted not to because of the War.

unblock

(52,326 posts)
10. At most 10 years, in theory
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:28 AM
Jun 2017

He can't be elected twice if he serves more than 2 years of donnie's term.

no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
15. Admission of Ignorance. I was wrong. See below
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jun 2017
https://www.quora.com/If-the-vice-president-of-the-U-S-finishes-out-a-presidents-term-can-he-she-still-run-for-two-more-terms


The 22nd Amendment specifically addresses this issue.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

If a Vice President becomes President upon the death, resignation or impeachment and conviction of the sitting president, he or she can run for two full terms in their own right if and only if they have served less than two full years of the term of the president they replaced.  If they have served even a day over two years of a previous president's term, then they are limited to one additional term of their own.

This means that the longest someone can technically serve as president is 10 years; two four-year terms of their own after serving EXACTLY two years of a previous president's term.
 

DaleFromWPB

(76 posts)
18. I think the bigger problem is Mitt Romney
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

If Trump is removed, Pence can nominate Romney for VP.
He is popular enough to get confirmed easily
In 2020 Pence decides not to run and the field is clear for Romney

I'm not sure we have anyone charismatic enough to beat him this time.

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