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I'm getting sick of Tim Ryan sniping at Nancy Pelosi. How about you ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 OP
I am also tired of Tim Ryan and his sad snipes Gothmog Jun 2017 #1
I'd be ok if he'd just STFU. mountain grammy Jun 2017 #2
So the m$m has him on tv to snipe @Nancy? Shocking. Cha Jun 2017 #3
They snipe at anyone who is effective flyingfysh Jun 2017 #4
Count me in. nt babylonsister Jun 2017 #5
The guy needs to stop running for her position in Congress by running her down... Hekate Jun 2017 #6
Yep mcar Jun 2017 #7
Yep. delisen Jun 2017 #9
Does he want her job? procon Jun 2017 #8
He Tried & Lost Me. Jun 2017 #28
He's not impressive but maybe he'll help her elevate her game BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #10
The next vote to lead the Dem caucus BainsBane Jun 2017 #54
Not sorry about that BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #55
Me too...I can't abide this sort of thing...he is my congressman and I voted for him. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #11
I'm sick of the lack of support for women leaders. milestogo Jun 2017 #12
chuck todd of all pundits called him on it evidently.. Cha Jun 2017 #13
When he manages to get more than a dozen reps behind him then I'll take him seriously. -_- JHan Jun 2017 #14
Yes! Disgusting. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #15
When are we going to wake up? Baitball Blogger Jun 2017 #16
He needs to be sniping at Paul Ryan calguy Jun 2017 #17
The Dems have allowed their leader to be demonized by their opposition. trof Jun 2017 #18
He has found a way to get coverage. gordianot Jun 2017 #19
I don't pay any attention to nobodys. nt elmac Jun 2017 #20
I was sick of him the day after last year's election. He's been singing the same tune ever since. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #21
Yes, definitely.. whathehell Jun 2017 #22
Hah!!! See Cha's Post #13. lamp_shade Jun 2017 #23
Also, he apparently thinks the Russia investigation BadgerMom Jun 2017 #24
Tim Ryan and Tulsi Gabbard must face primaries. Dawson Leery Jun 2017 #25
Add Snarky Rice To That List Me. Jun 2017 #29
I am behind Nancy all the way... chillfactor Jun 2017 #26
If not for DU I would have never heard of him Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #27
Yes shenmue Jun 2017 #30
Yes he needs the stfu onecaliberal Jun 2017 #31
Agreed. Just as annoying as Sanders running around saying how "corrupt" Democrats are. Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #32
We're family. If he has a problem with her he should settle it when they caucus. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #35
Yo! wryter2000 Jun 2017 #33
Now Harold Ford is going in on her on MSNBC ecstatic Jun 2017 #34
Harold Ford - a.k.a. "Who?" a.k.a. "Wow, is he still around?" hatrack Jun 2017 #36
I am very sick of it nt Progressive dog Jun 2017 #37
Absolutely ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #38
and everyone else sniping at her on tv...the 'wet behind the ear group'.. samnsara Jun 2017 #39
Tim Ryan can kiss my grits! Little Star Jun 2017 #40
Oh yeah. He needs to get lost. skylucy Jun 2017 #41
So Rebl2 Jun 2017 #42
How do you spell STFU? George II Jun 2017 #43
yes niyad Jun 2017 #44
Pretty sure Republicans will treat him with the greatest respect dalton99a Jun 2017 #45
Well, he took a shot at being elected as Minority Leader. MineralMan Jun 2017 #46
Yeah, totally sick of it. No excuse for it. R B Garr Jun 2017 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #48
"Yond Cassius DOES have a lean and hungry look" B Stieg Jun 2017 #49
Hey Tim! Shut IT! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #50
Nancy Pelosi will be remembered in the history books. Tim Ryan who? still_one Jun 2017 #51
Pelosi's tenure as Speaker was remarkable, especially 2009-10. Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #52
That's a lesson in how not to become minority leader BainsBane Jun 2017 #53

Cha

(297,670 posts)
3. So the m$m has him on tv to snipe @Nancy? Shocking.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jun 2017

Wonkette: There's an actual reason why the GOP hates Nancy Pelosi,

which is that she’s incredibly good at her job.

Did you know that, according to CNN, there was a House Democratic caucus meeting on Wednesday, and Nancy Pelosi had the utter “who the fuck does she think she is” audacity to say that, even though they lost this year’s special elections, Democrats are looking really good in a lot of other districts currently held by Republicans? What the fuck, Nancy, with your “facts” and shit? What good are they even? “Facts” are for the “establishment,” a convenient label we use for whomever we feel like attacking that day!


More..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029239300#top

Hekate

(90,805 posts)
6. The guy needs to stop running for her position in Congress by running her down...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jun 2017

She earned her position as Speaker, she earned her constituents' votes, she earned her position as minority leader. And iirc she didn't denigrate others in order to build herself up. Nancy just works really hard and really smart.

He and his cohorts should try that.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. Does he want her job?
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:54 PM
Jun 2017

I don't get the point of his attacks unless he thinks he's going to win votes by repeating Republican talking points.

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
10. He's not impressive but maybe he'll help her elevate her game
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jun 2017

Competition is a fact of life in the real world. Unless you want us to be the Tenure Party.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
54. The next vote to lead the Dem caucus
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jun 2017

is at the beginning of the next congress. This guy has blown any chance he might of had at replacing her.

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
55. Not sorry about that
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jun 2017

I hope we can do better. Ryan IMO is not that good on his feet; I'm a white guy from Ohio is just another stale bit of ID politics at the end of the day.

Demsrule86

(68,685 posts)
11. Me too...I can't abide this sort of thing...he is my congressman and I voted for him.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:58 PM
Jun 2017

I called his office today. He could not be speaker as he is in sadly what is more red than purple Ohio...the Speaker has to come from a blue blue district. Why should we get rid of our speaker because the GOP said so. What the left doesn't get is a centrist will work with Trump.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
14. When he manages to get more than a dozen reps behind him then I'll take him seriously. -_-
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jun 2017

So far though... -_-

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
16. When are we going to wake up?
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jun 2017

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If the Republicans don't like her it means she is doing her job. The leaders will throw a name out like meat and their followers will attack it like pitbulls. This is just what they do. It is visceral.

calguy

(5,326 posts)
17. He needs to be sniping at Paul Ryan
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jun 2017

If he has a beef with Pelosi he needs to express it behind closed doors with the right people. Democrats in the house would do well to study the tactics used by Newt Gingrich in the 90's and start using them. Not only did the Newtster succeed in the GOP takeover of the house, he was also elected speaker for his efforts. So if Ryan wants to unseat Pelosi, Gingrich laid out a clear and effectively way to do it.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
24. Also, he apparently thinks the Russia investigation
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jun 2017

is overblown. People in Ohio aren't interested, according to him. When I Googled him, that news from 19 hours ago was the first to pop up

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
25. Tim Ryan and Tulsi Gabbard must face primaries.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jun 2017

Neither them care for the Russia investigation. We know there are two turncoats in our ranks.

Steven Maurer

(476 posts)
32. Agreed. Just as annoying as Sanders running around saying how "corrupt" Democrats are.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jun 2017

You can advocate for your ideas without making personal attacks on the morality of people yet to be persuaded.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
35. We're family. If he has a problem with her he should settle it when they caucus.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jun 2017

As it is he's giving succor to our enemies.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
34. Now Harold Ford is going in on her on MSNBC
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jun 2017

If only dems like Tim Ryan, Bernie, Rice, Ford, etc. put as much time and energy into explaining what's at stake if the ACA is repealed as they do tearing down other democrats, we'd be in a lot better shape right now. As I said before, I don't hear from these folks...and when they finally speak out, THIS is what the topic is?? Really??

samnsara

(17,636 posts)
39. and everyone else sniping at her on tv...the 'wet behind the ear group'..
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jun 2017

saying her time has passed have NO IDEA who they are dealing with.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
46. Well, he took a shot at being elected as Minority Leader.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jun 2017

Nancy Pelosi won, instead. I'm sure he didn't like that outcome. But, that is how leadership is chosen in the House of Representatives. In reality, none of us have any say in who House members elect to lead the Democratic caucus, except that we vote for our own district's representative.

Many DUers have Republicans representing their districts, so they can't even contact them about the Democratic leadership. Their reps don't have a vote.

If Tim Ryan had the support of a majority of his peers in the House, he'd be the Minority Leader. He is not the Minority Leader, because he did not have that support. Nancy Pelosi did.

I'm sure he thinks he'd do a better job, but he ran and lost. In January of 2019, there'll be another opportunity, if he wins re-election in his own district. He can try again.

R B Garr

(16,977 posts)
47. Yeah, totally sick of it. No excuse for it.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jun 2017

Bashing Democrats just to make a name for yourself is getting really, really old. Imagine if other Democrats started taking potshots at him and added in some regional bashing. Self-defeating and stupid.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
49. "Yond Cassius DOES have a lean and hungry look"
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jun 2017

Not sure how I feel about Ms. Pelosi's continuing in the leadership right now, but Ryan really started sounding very strident (and a little desperate?) to me in several interviews this am.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
52. Pelosi's tenure as Speaker was remarkable, especially 2009-10.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:57 PM
Jun 2017

In those two years, she shepherded through Obamacare, the first version WITH a public option, and the one without (to appease the Senate), cap and trade, Dodd-Frank, student loan reform, and the Lily Ledbetter Act.

Feel free to add to my list of I missed anything.

House Dems know this, which is why Tim Ryan couldn't beat her fair and square last January. Now he's trying to smear her to do an end around that vote. He should be ashamed.

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