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meow2u3

(24,774 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 09:51 AM Jun 2017

Bombshell Report Reveals Mitch McConnell Allowed Russia To Attack The US To Help Trump

In a tone that would become familiar in the following months, Republicans and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) allowed Russia to interfere in the election to help Trump by expressing skepticism about the intelligence that Russia was meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

The Washington Post reported:
“The Dems were, ‘Hey, we have to tell the public,’?” recalled one participant. But Republicans resisted, arguing that to warn the public that the election was under attack would further Russia’s aim of sapping confidence in the system.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) went further, officials said, voicing skepticism that the underlying intelligence truly supported the White House’s claims. Through a spokeswoman, McConnell declined to comment, citing the secrecy of that meeting.

Key Democrats were stunned by the GOP response and exasperated that the White House seemed willing to let Republican opposition block any pre-election move.

Sen. McConnell’s doubt of the intelligence is the same tactic that has been used by Trump and his administration since the Russia scandal heated up. The other problem is that the Obama White House let McConnell block them and did nothing. Looking back with 20/20 perspective, it is easy to say that Obama should have issued a warning about Russian election meddling without the Republicans on board, but his concern that the Russia issue would turn into a partisan one that could destroy the integrity of the election was legitimate.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/23/bombshell-report-reveals-mitch-mcconnell-allowed-russia-attack-trump.html

McTurtle sure as hell was in on the fix. Indict, try, and convict him so the Senate would have to expel him!
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Bombshell Report Reveals Mitch McConnell Allowed Russia To Attack The US To Help Trump (Original Post) meow2u3 Jun 2017 OP
I realized he was in on the fix at least from the beginning of 2016 when he wouldn't allow shraby Jun 2017 #1
Bingo. dalton99a Jun 2017 #2
Point well taken meow2u3 Jun 2017 #4
Me too! itcfish Jun 2017 #42
Plus, he and others were getting millions of dollars in laundered Russain mob money. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #76
That super PAC money went to pay for a lot of targeted congress races. Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #96
ANd his wife became Secretary of Trabsportation malaise Jun 2017 #3
McConnell needs jail time..k and r. Stuart G Jun 2017 #5
No, he needs to DIE IN JAIL...his remaining years in general population. (n/t) Moostache Jun 2017 #9
His REAL name Scarsdale Jun 2017 #17
Amen! calimary Jun 2017 #77
oh boy all this stuff is happening before 4th July bdamomma Jun 2017 #6
Next to Trump, there isn't anybody who I would love to see behind bars more smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #7
Add Lyin' Ryan Scarsdale Jun 2017 #18
Yeah, right after being reelected, Chaffetz decides to Alice11111 Jun 2017 #78
Oh, yes! In order, Trump, McConnell, Ryan. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #79
Strong reports swirling that there ARE tapes of Ryan and Mitch talking to Russians dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #90
Oh please,yes! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #91
I believe that if there were somehow, tapes of Ryan and Mitch talking to the Russians, this politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2017 #94
I'd love to see him behind bars MORE than Trump. maddiemom Jun 2017 #31
Me NEITHER. And that asshole's in it Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #71
I agree! n/t USALiberal Jun 2017 #89
relative bargaining power of GOP to keep exposure down is directly related to their certainot Jun 2017 #8
Truth Oden Jun 2017 #30
The evidence will come soon enough. Volaris Jun 2017 #41
investigations need to tie it to limbaugh and sons too! certainot Jun 2017 #53
It's why McCONnell blocked Merrick Garland for SCotUS. Turtle knew the fix was in. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #10
He also knew Scarsdale Jun 2017 #19
His family got paid off personally when his wife got a cushy cabinet post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #20
Not that she needs the income. maddiemom Jun 2017 #33
No, but her family runs one of the largest shipping companies in china... Volaris Jun 2017 #44
Good Point. maddiemom Jun 2017 #45
Both McConnell and Ryan knew Botany Jun 2017 #27
Yes McConnell was in from the get-go FakeNoose Jun 2017 #70
BURN the GOP and the Oligarchy to the ground! lastlib Jun 2017 #88
So what's the best case scenario here? awesomerwb1 Jun 2017 #11
Another depressing thought is baggers on the juries letting these crooks off. Ligyron Jun 2017 #49
Oh, just a little mild treason. byronius Jun 2017 #12
A little treason never hurt anyone? Scumbag McConnell BSdetect Jun 2017 #13
McConnell to resign in disgrace. My xmas wish. oasis Jun 2017 #14
Never happen Scarsdale Jun 2017 #21
Another BOMBSHELL Wednesdays Jun 2017 #15
You know, it took many years, but Denny Hastert Texin Jun 2017 #16
Addison "Mitch" McConnell Scarsdale Jun 2017 #22
So....still waiting for Cheney to be convicted LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #63
So glad this is being surfaced again. I remember last summer/fall when Obama wanted... iluvtennis Jun 2017 #23
In retrospect it would have been great. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2017 #24
Yep, agree that was the rationale. Why give Trump red meat to add to his "election is rigged" lies iluvtennis Jun 2017 #25
"I wish Obama has put his sense of being fair to the side" BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #32
Well stated...agree Obama has laid the bread crumbs to try to expose Dumpty iluvtennis Jun 2017 #51
He allowed the preparation for the casting of a wider net BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #55
Agree but Obama was timid with repubs all along Oden Jun 2017 #34
No he wasn't! He was Fierce & Released everything except classified info to the public & documented. Sunlei Jun 2017 #73
This explains a lot. Gives one a sick disgusting feeling. Where Enoki33 Jun 2017 #26
So McConnell worked with a foreign entity to manipulate our elections... Catmusicfan Jun 2017 #28
He's already commited many acts that SHOULD be considered treason, just to obstruct Obama. maddiemom Jun 2017 #38
They are all complicit mcar Jun 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author maddiemom Jun 2017 #35
This might be the way to finally get traitor McTurtle out. Keeping my fingers crossed. brush Jun 2017 #36
Somehow, Mitch was the ring leader in all of this. Initech Jun 2017 #37
Sorry, love Obama, but he totally and 100% blew it on this decision. lark Jun 2017 #39
This actually frightens me. Obama and the Dems LET the 'Cons do this and get away with it!! chimpymustgo Jun 2017 #62
yep, more rolling over by dems, and with elections totally hacked, we'll probably never have any TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #69
+ 1 red dog 1 Jun 2017 #80
K&R... spanone Jun 2017 #40
Looking back-really if Obama had been a Republican we would have accused him of allowing this. 58Sunliner Jun 2017 #43
+ 1 red dog 1 Jun 2017 #82
Since the Republicans own the yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #46
Yeah, and then we have to worry about the jury pools. Ligyron Jun 2017 #54
well this is where the lawyers are supposed to screen yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #56
Precisely. Ligyron Jun 2017 #57
We need to stop shifting the blame from McConnell to Obama Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #47
republican traitors against America should be... Achilleaze Jun 2017 #48
He needs to be removed but this isn't going to do it. Kablooie Jun 2017 #50
"it is easy to say that Obama should have issued a warning about Russian election meddling..." Yes; WinkyDink Jun 2017 #52
Most of that is not new info. But maybe people will pay more attention now that we are further Amaryllis Jun 2017 #58
and ' the White House seemed willing to let Republican opposition block any pre-election move. ' elleng Jun 2017 #59
Ah, Kentucky! dobleremolque Jun 2017 #60
Someone has interview Obama in-depth about this matter. Efilroft Sul Jun 2017 #61
Just don't know where this is going bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #64
... and McConnel's wire gets a cabinet position in King Cons admin ... hmmm YCHDT Jun 2017 #65
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #66
Don't mince words, it's treason DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #67
well, if obama thought it would be "political" then obviously repugs are gonna say the same thing; TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #68
Republicans ordered the dossier over a year ago. They KNEW our Democracy was under attack. Sunlei Jun 2017 #72
It is ALL about the winning for McConnell, NOT how you play the game. He only wants to win, and will OnDoutside Jun 2017 #74
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #75
I thought we already knew that months ago nt doc03 Jun 2017 #81
K&R red dog 1 Jun 2017 #83
Ping May Mitch is the VERY EPITOME of a fifth column. sandensea Jun 2017 #84
I'm convinced and have been... ( surprised?) SJMULE Jun 2017 #85
For awhile I have been wondering if the reason Mitch resisted an investigation wasnt to cstanleytech Jun 2017 #86
Would most people believe it or care? kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2017 #87
Don't get me wrong, Obama was a good President for working people but YOHABLO Jun 2017 #92
And now he is positioned to lead the next Russian destabilization attack Generic Brad Jun 2017 #93
Kand REC riversedge Jun 2017 #95
This was an act of war Botany Jun 2017 #97
K & R onecent Jun 2017 #98
This explains why everyone is so bent on blaming Obama for it right now. GoCubsGo Jun 2017 #99

shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. I realized he was in on the fix at least from the beginning of 2016 when he wouldn't allow
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jun 2017

a confirmation of the person Obama nominated for the Supreme Court.
He knew then if he waited, trump would win and then appoint an extreme right winger.

meow2u3

(24,774 posts)
4. Point well taken
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:00 AM
Jun 2017

I never realized why McTurtle refused even a hearing for Merrick Garland. Now I see why--it was all because a traitor is running the Senate.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
96. That super PAC money went to pay for a lot of targeted congress races.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 03:24 AM
Jun 2017

The Russians financed a coup, and one of our political parties was their partner.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. His REAL name
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

is ADDISON. Where did Mitch come from, I wonder. Maybe we should stop calling him Mitch, and use ADDY instead?

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
6. oh boy all this stuff is happening before 4th July
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:09 AM
Jun 2017

we will have some major fireworks in DC. Lawyer up to all the culprits who committed these illegal acts.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. Add Lyin' Ryan
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jun 2017

too. Oh while we are at it, Devin Traitor Nunes. Chaffetz has already seen the handwriting on the wall, he is getting out while the gettin' is good.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
78. Yeah, right after being reelected, Chaffetz decides to
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jun 2017

Spend more time with his family, and describes how his daughters had left for college

They were up to their noses, and most of us knew it.
What kind of noble official acted like MM and Ryan in DTs election.

I would like to see them all in prison for life, including Sessions and Pence.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
79. Oh, yes! In order, Trump, McConnell, Ryan.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jun 2017

Then Pence, Sessions and all the rest of them - I pretty much hate them all, but those are my top three.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
90. Strong reports swirling that there ARE tapes of Ryan and Mitch talking to Russians
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jun 2017

about the election.
Gonna be a big boom when those surface.
Mueller still in process of gathering and sorting thru all the IC info. on a global scale.
Isn't gonna happen as fast as we would like, but it is widespread investigation.
Also, NY State AG, in going after RICO charges on Trump and his Russian money-laundering pals, always focuses on destroying the operation , not just making arrests.
Fines and penalties are usually about 3 times the amount laundered.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
94. I believe that if there were somehow, tapes of Ryan and Mitch talking to the Russians, this
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 02:44 AM
Jun 2017

whole shit would be over in one fell swoop if revealed, and I'm a fervent follower of DU. I just don't see how something like this remains secret. Now I've seen the threads about Ryan and McConnell taking Russian money in illegal PACs but that seems more preposterous than the threads coming from the "Louise" woman who drops tidbits on alleged Grand Jury indictments frequently and gets slammed every time she is mentioned as running a con on DU'ers.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
31. I'd love to see him behind bars MORE than Trump.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jun 2017

He wields more actual influence. He has already caused a lot of damage to the country, more than Trump has the imagination or time to do, aside from actually pushing the nuclear button---God help us!

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
71. Me NEITHER. And that asshole's in it
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jun 2017

up to his gross, buggy, bifurcated, double-glazed empty eyeballs. Mitch McConnell needs to be outfitted in a stiff orange jumpsuit, sprayed in the face with de-lousing spray, and shunted into the general population of Pelican Bay prison.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
8. relative bargaining power of GOP to keep exposure down is directly related to their
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

being able to control national messaging from 1000 radio stations that the left continues to ignore

"obama deep state is colluding with hillary suggesting trump is stealing the election but there's no evidence!" etc

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
41. The evidence will come soon enough.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:54 AM
Jun 2017

Bobby 3-Sticks ain't no amateur. When the hammer comes down on this, the evidence will be AIRTIGHT, and the entire GOP leadership will go down with their Dear Leader. Ryan, McConnell, Sessions, Bannon, PREBIUS, probably some House members that Ryan funneled laundered Russian money to via pacs...EVERYONE.

When this hammer drops, it's gonna crack a lot of skullz. Can't fucking wait.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
53. investigations need to tie it to limbaugh and sons too!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jun 2017

as far as collusion, the trump team studied talk radio in lead up to campaign according to sam nunberg (gabriel sherman - new york magazine 4/3/16)— did trump figure that out or did the russians explain most of their trolling on his behalf was going to piggyback talk radio? how long have the russians been feeding the talk radio gods through breitbart, etc.

trump is the talk radio president and he is putin’s president — limbaugh has been denouncing the collusion as absurd, he’s up to his eyeballs making excuses for trump. is trump or the russians paying him?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
19. He also knew
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jun 2017

about the Russian money. Some was "laundered" through the RNC. Addison "Mitch" knew a lot more than he will ever admit. Crooked as HELL.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
44. No, but her family runs one of the largest shipping companies in china...
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jun 2017

So guess whos gonna get to ship all that steel for the private contractors hired to repair all the bridges for the trillion dollar infrastructure bill Trumpy said he would pass.

Conflict of interest to these people means a russian mob bank made an accounting error somewhere, and somebody didn't get paid what they were promised.

Botany

(70,589 posts)
27. Both McConnell and Ryan knew
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jun 2017

Both McConnell and Ryan knew

God only knows how wide and deep this corruption goes. Ryan is in a
CYA mood right now.

How did McConnell know if he waited until after the election he would have
somebody else to vote for for SCOTUS?


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028671176 (NY Times Article)

Paul Ryan & Republican Establishment Used Hacked Info From Russia Against Democrats:

Let's not forget that a super PAC tied to Paul Ryan used material provided by Russia's hacking of the DNC and DCCC.

It was known that Russia had stolen material from the DNC and DCCC and a Paul Ryan Super PAC and as well as other Republican groups used it.

It wasn't just Hillary Clinton being attacked. It wasn't just Trump benefiting. There's potentially more collusion than just that between Trump's team and Russia.

********
It was a coup and we had and still have treason.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
70. Yes McConnell was in from the get-go
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:40 PM
Jun 2017

But I remember back a year ago, in the weeks leading up to the Republican convention.

Trump had pretty much sewn up the nomination, all they had to do was nominate him as their candidate. And yet for those few weeks Ryan was not wanting Trump, he was even putting out negative press releases about him. Ryan said he'd look at anybody other than Trump for the GOP candidate.

Why was that? McConnell was balls-in for Trump and somehow he got Ryan to go for him too. How did he do that? It's always bothered me and made me wonder how they got him. Eventually Ryan did decide on Trump but he's always been sort of lukewarm.

Ryan had to have known all the shit about Trump that we're just finding out now.

What's the deal with these guys? How did Ryan get his arm twisted? McConnell we know about - Putin's just outright blackmailing him and using him. But Ryan is a mystery, what do they have on him, and how did they buy him?

Inquiring minds want to know.


lastlib

(23,309 posts)
88. BURN the GOP and the Oligarchy to the ground!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jun 2017

Round up any survivors and ship 'em off to re-education/labor camps. Permanently!

. . . .

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
11. So what's the best case scenario here?
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:38 AM
Jun 2017

Can he get indicted? If so by whom, state or federal? Can he be pardoned?

The amount of crap these POS have gotten away with is mind boggling. Sometimes I think this crap is so vast it will be impossible to take down.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
49. Another depressing thought is baggers on the juries letting these crooks off.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jun 2017

Forget about the actual evidence against them.

Still, we have to try and maybe the average Merican will wise up after their healthcare is gone.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. Never happen
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:10 AM
Jun 2017

Addison "Mitch" McConnell has made himself a multi millionaire in this "job" He is too greedy to quit.

Texin

(2,599 posts)
16. You know, it took many years, but Denny Hastert
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:56 AM
Jun 2017

finally was prosecuted and jailed for his sexual abuse - rape - of underage boys and he is now a broken old man in stir. The same was true of gangster Al Capone who died of syphilis in federal prison on tax evasion/fraud. It shouldn't, but it continually amazes me that people like McConnell and Trump seemingly get by forever with criminal acts, but it does eventually catch up with them. There will be a great day of reckoning for them and others of their ilk - serial criminals all - and I don't mean in The Great Bye and Bye either. The tRump clan are no better than the Madoff mob. And McConnell is no better than Snowden or Assange. Perhaps, someday Yertle can join those two on their Men Without a Country world tour soon.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
22. Addison "Mitch" McConnell
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jun 2017

might enjoy being locked up with those tough men. Many of them have more integrity than he ever had. The millions of $$$ he has made by screwing this country will mean nothing behind bars.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
63. So....still waiting for Cheney to be convicted
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jun 2017

These assholes get away with it more often than naught. Now underage sexual crimes is another matter because it involves victims who will mature and (not always) become braver about telling their story.
If it is another criminal act involving money, witnesses and cohorts can be bought off. Haliburton made billions off of no-bid self-awarded contracts, where many of the rebuilding projects were not even completed.

His revealing the identity of a covert CIA operative? All they do is have a fall guy cop to the crime and then pardon him a few months later, Scooter Libby.

What is more important is to not let history be re-written. Even if these traitors die in a gold gilded bed with everything they ever wanted materially, they will, they must, be regarded historically along with Benedict Arnold.

iluvtennis

(19,876 posts)
23. So glad this is being surfaced again. I remember last summer/fall when Obama wanted...
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jun 2017

...to come with a bi-partisan announcement and press conference about the Russian interference, but McConnell said no. Then Obama (playing Mr Fairness/Nice guy) didn't do unilateral dissemination for fear that he would be tagged with trying to turn the election in Hillary's favor. What a mess. For one time, I wish Obama has put his sense of being fair to the side and came out strong with this info last summer.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
24. In retrospect it would have been great.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jun 2017

But I don't think anyone gave Trump a snowball's chance in hell of taking the election. I'm sure Obama knew what depths McConnell would go to, and decided it wasn't worth it since Hillary could pursue it after she was elected.

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
32. "I wish Obama has put his sense of being fair to the side"
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:35 AM
Jun 2017

After 8 years of unprecedented obstruction, RW media craven hatred, and the fact that the M$M refused to do their jobs when they did no fact-checking during the entire election cycle, he was stuck between the rock and hard place. If he had aggressively intervened, then the media shutdown against the Democrats' assertions would have been solidified due to them declaring it, using the simpleton terms, "partisanship" and "sour grapes". And given that Democrats neither own nor control any major media outlets, then the info gathered would have been summarily dismissed and buried. Because. "Partisan". Plus it would have taken years to get to where we are right now regarding investigations - especially when you have the leaders of both chambers of Congress out to block with their cutthroat moves and having the committees stall.

What has happened is that the election process proceeded and the intelligence-gathering continued. And what he DID do was make sure as much evidence as could be gathered was distributed and preserved away from being completely purged, and that has been dribbled out to bring the subject front and center. And the additional piece is that there are now 3 different topics of investigation - the Russian "meddling" in the election, the "money laundering and potential espionage", and most recently, the "obstruction of justice". So we may get a three-some out of it - assuming Mueller is allowed to continue.

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
55. He allowed the preparation for the casting of a wider net
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jun 2017

particularly since that "net" now includes a number of current Department/Agency heads.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
73. No he wasn't! He was Fierce & Released everything except classified info to the public & documented.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jun 2017

Released everything except classified info to the public & WELL documented in archives. Here's one example of public disclosure, there are scores more.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/11/press-briefing-press-secretary-josh-earnest-1112017

Enoki33

(1,588 posts)
26. This explains a lot. Gives one a sick disgusting feeling. Where
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jun 2017

do we go for justice from such a powerful cabal? They are certainly not going to investigate themselves. Maybe 2018 will answer.

Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
28. So McConnell worked with a foreign entity to manipulate our elections...
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jun 2017

Would that not make him a Traitor?

Response to mcar (Reply #29)

Initech

(100,105 posts)
37. Somehow, Mitch was the ring leader in all of this.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jun 2017

When Scalia died he knew the fix was in, and that he could obstruct and rig the courts. Fuck this fucking asshole, he belongs behind bars.

lark

(23,158 posts)
39. Sorry, love Obama, but he totally and 100% blew it on this decision.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jun 2017

It's probably the worst decision he ever made. The election was totally hacked for partisan purposes and now they have the apparatus in place, no election will ever be safe again until and unless the Repugs hang for their treachery. If Drumpf remains president and Ryan and the Turtle keep their positions, I think Dems will find we never win anything again, as all elections will be totally hacked and all media will just support them by saying Dems are losers and no one likes them and all polls are just wrong. We need to take our country back from Russia and traitorous Repugs.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
62. This actually frightens me. Obama and the Dems LET the 'Cons do this and get away with it!!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jun 2017

This makes NO SENSE! Sure - everyone KNEW Hillary would win. But then they stole it. And the Senate, and the Supreme Court! And our COUNTRY!

And NOBODY DID ANYTHING.

So, maybe we'll have months, years of investigations...and maybe...a few lower level folks will go to jail. But seriously, do we still believe in Santa Claus?

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
69. yep, more rolling over by dems, and with elections totally hacked, we'll probably never have any
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:40 PM
Jun 2017

substantial power again.

58Sunliner

(4,410 posts)
43. Looking back-really if Obama had been a Republican we would have accused him of allowing this.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jun 2017

"it is easy to say that Obama should have issued a warning about Russian election meddling without the Republicans on board, but his concern that the Russia issue would turn into a partisan one that could destroy the integrity of the election was legitimate. "
BS on this. He was the president. He should have sounded the alarm. Loud and clear. I am glad he kept documents, but that could easily have been interpreted as covering his ass.
I have to wonder if they threatened him. His job was to inform the people of credible threats, not worry about how we might react. Who knows-maybe we would have had more people vote. Hiding the truth should not have been his choice to make. Like we are little children unable to deal with reality.

yuiyoshida

(41,864 posts)
46. Since the Republicans own the
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:17 PM
Jun 2017

House, Senate, and White house, I suspect nothing will be done to him, unless it become a criminal matter then the Department of Justice must step in and do what must be done. The FBI maybe.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
54. Yeah, and then we have to worry about the jury pools.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jun 2017

Libel to be a couple baggers on each jury who would never convict a Repuglican. That's my fear.

Many hurdles to overcome but nevertheless - we persist!

yuiyoshida

(41,864 posts)
56. well this is where the lawyers are supposed to screen
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jun 2017

people out...both attorneys have to decide whether or not a jurist is suitable. If you have two corrupt attorneys than there is nothing that can be done. 書がない!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
47. We need to stop shifting the blame from McConnell to Obama
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:22 PM
Jun 2017

Republicans held Obama and the Democrats hostage on this issue. The GOP had two ways to play this: if Obama said nothing, they would say nothing. If Obama drew attention to the Russian attack, the Russiablicans would have destroyed him (and Hillary) in the press. It was a no win situation.

The cheaters cheated and got away with it. They may still.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
50. He needs to be removed but this isn't going to do it.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jun 2017

There is nothing illegal in expressing an opinion even if you are doing it disingenuously to help your party.

To know about the threat and advise that nothing be done might have some weight if Democrats had done something but the fact that Democrats took his advice and did nothing, while knowing the threat existed, indicates that his opinion was the opinion of the government in general so it wouldn't be any more illegal than Democrats not acting on the threat.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
52. "it is easy to say that Obama should have issued a warning about Russian election meddling..." Yes;
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jun 2017

yes, it is. And fully warranted, IMO. Because...how's that silence workin' out for us, huh?

The "integrity of the election" was, is, and apparently will remain an ACT OF WAR, at the very least.

WAR AND TREASON**, at the most.

**By Trump and his collaborateurs.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
58. Most of that is not new info. But maybe people will pay more attention now that we are further
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jun 2017

along with Russiagate.

elleng

(131,144 posts)
59. and ' the White House seemed willing to let Republican opposition block any pre-election move. '
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jun 2017

Understandable that President Obama didn't want to appear to 'interfere' in election, but a bit too cautious, imo.

dobleremolque

(492 posts)
60. Ah, Kentucky!
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jun 2017

Home to fast horses, superior bourbon, and treasonous Republican senators! Maybe they should change the honorific title they hand out from "Kentucky Colonel" to "Kentucky полковник".

Efilroft Sul

(3,582 posts)
61. Someone has interview Obama in-depth about this matter.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jun 2017

His perspective would be invaluable, plus it would give major shit-fits to Trump, Putin, McConnell, Ryan, and everyone else who could be in on this election tampering.

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
64. Just don't know where this is going
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:11 PM
Jun 2017

It's like there's something being held over our Democratic heads that we don't know about

So the FBI does a thorough and non-partisan fact finding job, what then? We get another
Iran-Contra style report and decide to move on because the fallout would be too disruptive
to our national polity

Where science and data and truth and facts are suspect as #FakeNews, no one can agree
on anything and even morality goes out the window

I'm thinking the post-War era, from 1945, was an inordinately strong one for laws, the State,
progress. Things were definite. Yet throughout our history there have been periods when
groups in power grabbed all they could and suppressed what they didn't like. We sent the
Tories packing in 1787 and seized their lands, the British marginalized French Canada and
took sides in Scottish Nova Scotia, we've all read of the Trail of Tears, Robber Barons, racism,
ageism, sexism, the Populist 1896 movement, the Red Scare, McCarthy, Civil Rights of the 60s
and early environmentalism.

The squeeze is being put on us. Our laws and safeguards were not strong enough, they relied
on leadership power and strength and public awareness, all of which failed to some extent. Maybe
it's just the way history rolls along.

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TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
68. well, if obama thought it would be "political" then obviously repugs are gonna say the same thing;
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:38 PM
Jun 2017

i'm not letting obama or the repugs off the hook.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
72. Republicans ordered the dossier over a year ago. They KNEW our Democracy was under attack.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:43 PM
Jun 2017

Republican party used stolen files and participated in a Coup. They're criminals.

OnDoutside

(19,974 posts)
74. It is ALL about the winning for McConnell, NOT how you play the game. He only wants to win, and will
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jun 2017

fight as dirty as he can, to do so.

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red dog 1

(27,866 posts)
83. K&R
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 07:06 PM
Jun 2017

Daily Kos also covered this WaPo article today, and the Kos' last paragraph sums it all up well:

"The answer to why Barack Obama didn't speak out more strongly and (earlier) about Russian interference for Trump, is because Republicans blazed the trail Trump is still following:
They refused to cooperate, placing party above country."

Barack Obama apparently "placed country above party"...and the result is that we now have a Republican Congress, a Republican Supreme Court, and a lying, child-raping Republican maniac in the Oval Office......(Goodbye "checks & balances&quot ....May God help us all!

 

SJMULE

(193 posts)
85. I'm convinced and have been... ( surprised?)
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 08:31 PM
Jun 2017

that McConnell and the GOP leadership were "all-in" with Russian collusion. He had to know the deck was stacked to their greatest advantage when he decided to "roll the dice" to obstruct the Garland appt. The WAPO article just lays it out in black and white.

cstanleytech

(26,320 posts)
86. For awhile I have been wondering if the reason Mitch resisted an investigation wasnt to
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 09:22 PM
Jun 2017

protect Trump because he thought Trump was in bed with the Russians but maybe to protect Mitch and other higher up Repugnants in Congress and the RNC because they were the ones in bed with the Russians and an investigation might have uncovered it.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
87. Would most people believe it or care?
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jun 2017

Right now, us Dems are the only ones who even care about this. Most Repubs don't believe it or even care.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
92. Don't get me wrong, Obama was a good President for working people but
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jun 2017

It's decisions like this that leaves me scratching my head. Why? Why play ball with these ass holes ?

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
93. And now he is positioned to lead the next Russian destabilization attack
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jun 2017

They blow up our health care, cause large numbers of us to be ill and die, and destroy our economy. Thanks for nothing, Comrade McConnell.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
99. This explains why everyone is so bent on blaming Obama for it right now.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 08:05 AM
Jun 2017

Look the other way. Nothing to see here.

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