who needs republicans?


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... who needs foreign enemies when we have Republicans.

Republicans are not the enemy. They are fellow Americans who hold political views with which we strongly disagree.

NOT CARING if Americans die because they can't afford healthcare, NOT CARING if Americans go hungry or homeless, NOT CARING if some Americans are treated like second-class citizens is NOT a "political view" - it is what it is: NOT CARING. NOT CARING about the citizenry, NOT CARING about who suffers or dies, NOT CARING that the reins of leadership have been handed over to an incompetent idiot.

Dismissing a complete disregard for our country's well-being or that of its populace as merely a "different political view" is beyond reprehensible. It's like calling Hitler's "final solution" merely a different political viewpoint as to how to deal with Jews.

Republicans think Obamacare is causing Americans to lose healthcare, and that it needs to be fixed. That's what they are told by Fox News and the radio shows that they listen to.

They think that by repealing Obamacare and replacing it with something else, then they are actually helping to make health care better.

They believe that they do care about the citizenry and that it's Democrats who don't care.

This is generally what average, uninformed/misinformed Republicans believe.

Making a comparison to Hitler's final solution is grotesque and wrong.

I think they ought to be avoided.

them.

I assumed you had responded to my post because you felt likewise. In any case, no offense was intended. I just wanted to share my opinion with respect to Nazi Germany comparisons. All the best!

I find your username supremely ironic, however.

And glad you recognized the username. Did you go to Oberlin?

I'm a little before that particular incident, but I have similar stories that I can share.

PM me if interested!

It was quite an experience - I always love hearing from fellow Obies!

Was on the jury regarding incivility, tho.

I mean that question sincerely.

Naming what is happening and describing it accurately is part of identifying the problem.

My breaking point was Sarah Palin. Now if you are arguing that they are too ignorant to see tRump for what he is, then they are extremely fucking ignorant.

I suggest they see tRump for what he is yet hate liberals much more.

Fuck them, they are the enemy.

We should try to convince them why they are wrong. Changing hearts and minds is important. Calling them the enemy is not the way to go in my opinion as I said.

... about gutting social security, Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, welfare, etc. - along with under-funding education and scientific research. It's not like the GOP came up with this shit yesterday.

People who allegedly "care about the citizenry" obviously didn't care about those who would suffer, or even die, without those safety nets.

I'm tired of my country being held hostage by people who are too stupid to change the channel, or claim ignorance of what 's going on in their own country because Kim Kardashian didn't mention it.

We live in the age of the internet, where facts are readily available with the click of a mouse. Ignorance is no excuse.

I know a lot of good people who are Republicans. I do my best to convince them of the error of their ways. Most of them do support Medicaid and Medicare. In fact, the Republicans in the Senate are making a point of trying to tell people that those programs won't be negatively impacted. A lie, to be sure, but a lie that shows that most people (even Republicans) support those programs.

Put your hands in the muck like I do. Spend 20 to 30 minutes. Read a few articles. Read the comments. See the contempt they have for us here at DU. See that they don't consider us Americans. See that they call us DUmmies, and Dhimmis. See them call us traitors. The open hostility, the racism.
Look up their views of Diamond Reynolds. She saw her boyfriend shot by a cop and stayed calm with the murderer inches from her face, ready to kill her for the slightest mistake she made. They are disgusted by her. They make jokes about cultural appropriation because she has blond hair. They call her Dumb-Ass Diamond.
That's the differing view of politics you're talking about. We are so far apart from that mindset that they might as well be another species from us. You'll see that everything in the OP is accurate as hell. And you'll understand that it can't just be reasoned away. That mindset needs to be utterly obliterated for the country to survive.

They aren't all Free Republic loons.

You appear to have joined 2 months ago?

....and admonishment.

I've been around here long enough to successfully describe your average post.

You catch on quickly.

I find those to be the most interesting and engaging. The areas where there is disagreement are the places where the most illuminating conversations tend to happen in my experience.

"+1" type posts seem kind of pointless to me.

Not be cluck clucked at with disapproval by the same handful of "devils advocates" at every turn gushing about "nice Republicans" who are laughing their asses off at us.

Some like potentially interesting discussion. This is, after all, a discussion board.

Or have been convinced that it is something other than what it is.

Part of our job as informed Democrats is to help illuminate what it really is and to convince all Americans to oppose it.

to "illuminate" and even "convince" beyond saying those words.

Do you not think Democratic spokespersons and politicians are attempting to do as you seek?

Do you not think various media people, such as Reid, Maddow, and O'Donnell, are attempting to do as you seek?

Pray tell, what other means do you recommend?

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I can maybe try to look up some statements from people. I am pretty confident there are such voters.

My suggestion is to start by not demonizing Republicans and to instead view them the way that I describe, as people who are either uninformed or ill informed and to start from there.

Of course there are some "deplorables" among the Republican crowd, but, as Hillary Clinton said, there is another basket of them who are not that way.

I don't think Reid, Maddow, and O'Donnell are reaching Republicans. I think their shows are geared towards liberals like us who already agree with them.

I am always heartened when a Chris Wallace or a Shep Smith says something moderately reasonable on Fox News. That has a better chance of getting these folks to reconsider their views a little.

...the GOP and individuals who identify as Republican. But it is getting harder all the time.

vote for them are fully culpable of any dire results.

It is not the same as people's reading the Beatitudes and then acting in direct opposition, all while claiming to be Christian. THEN one can separate the philosophy from the member.

A large group of greedy, money hungry rich guys who put a dollar above everything else.

I said it once, I'll say it again. Buck up and grow a pair everyone! Our adversaries are going into full battle mode against us, as shown by recent attacks on Leader Nancy Pelosi and President Obama. Unite now more than ever. Let's show them what a united democratic front can do!!!

When Hitler boasted that "we lost the war; but shall win the peace," the GOP is EXACTLY what he was referring to.

Republicans are humanity's enemies. It's not a political party any more. It's a toxic suicidal death and greed cult.

As always.

Republicans do not care.

America's enemies are the oligarchs and they are pursuing a scorched earth policy to plunder the assets and livelihoods of America's once great middle class. The folks going along with this program are victims of an obscene moral epidemic that has destroyed all of their decency and compassion and a large part of their good judgement.

DonTCARE.

Sums up the Cons. From Don trickling down.

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In the past six months, one asshole tried to encourage me to kill myself and another "offered" me a "job" as a target holder at his gun range. And while it's true that these were only two people, I somehow don't think they represent a small facet of the thinking of their demographic.

Since they've apparently drank all my "liberal tears", I guess I won't have anymore to give once they get fucked over by the despicable swindler they voted for.

"I do not support a livable wage"

Even winning a heavily "red" area with such a draconian statement tells me
there is something really, really wrong with WTF Faux Noise is driving home
daily, relentlessly, teaching their faithful mesmerized NOT TO CARE. EVER.



Angels and ministers of grace defend us! Be thou a spirit of health or goblin damned, Bring with thee airs from heaven or blasts from hell, Be thy intents wicked or charitable, Thou comest in such a questionable shape.

Great post!

Now there is too much on the line to accept their lack of empathy and total selfishness. I am tired of trying to be polite to my relatives because they believe Fox News.

If the current health bill passes, they will wallow in their tax break, but my daughter who is fighting cancer will lose her insurance and die.

And it's scary. These are the people after the election were proud to say they are anti-PC. And I think that it's going to get worse before it gets better.

wow ... sharing with credit and links back to source ...

What I think is really Dumb Republican Policy
We want a war here there everywhere! Iran, Iraq, Syrian, Afghanistan, They Want to fight everywhere.
For those Wars they need healthy Bodies to Fight!!
So they Want to Cut Health and Medicare and Every one who could be able to Fight, Crap Coverage so we have
a Weak Fighting force. Who are they really Working For ??
If you want a Strong Fighting Force , you should have a Healthy Program that Grows the Citizens Strength and populace.
To have a Awesome Base to do this.
But no!!
They
Starve the nation to give to Wealthy and make us Scared and weak to fight for them.
The one of the most Important Fight is Cyber wars Russia Shutting down every System in the Ukraine.
They are Killing each other and we Are cutting Pell grants and student loans who in the future to fight this!!
Why who are they working for?? Russia already tested our network and was Successful.
Is Red Dawn coming?

throw a kiniption fit if they were hacked the other way and the Dems won! I'm still disappointed that the Dems aren't LOUD & ABUSIVE of the Pubs for ignoring what happened in our last election and their insane & anti American love fest with Russia!