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The new details, buttressed by a classified National Security Agency document recently disclosed by the Intercept, show the scope of alleged hacking that federal investigators are scrutinizing as they look into whether Trump campaign officials may have colluded in the efforts. But they also paint a worrisome picture for future elections: The newest portrayal of potentially deep vulnerabilities in the U.S.’s patchwork of voting technologies comes less than a week after former FBI Director James Comey warned Congress that Moscow isn’t done meddling.’
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‘Such operations need not change votes to be effective. In fact, the Obama administration believed that the Russians were possibly preparing to delete voter registration information or slow vote tallying in order to undermine confidence in the election. That effort went far beyond the carefully timed release of private communications by individuals and parties.’
Despite ongoing false claims by the president of the United States as well as Russian President Vladimir Putin that Russia made no such attempts (Trump even tried to lay the blame on China, or possibly an overweight man sitting at home in his bed), few U.S. officials privy to the evidence compiled still have doubts.
A recent leak by a federal contractor with security clearance in Georgia, Reality Winner, showed that the NSA already had evidence that Russia attempted to hack into voting machines in Georgia. Although intelligence officials are remain unconvinced that any votes were changed, the new evidence that those same attempts occurred in all but 11 states in the U.S. raises all new concerns.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/06/24/just-trump-election-phony-voting-machine-hack-confirmed-across-39-states/
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(17,120 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The article says, over and over, " evidence so far does not show that Russians ever gained the access needed to manipulate vote tallies." Yet, the title says something completely different.
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The website sounds questionable though.
brush
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lostnfound
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Control-Z
(15,682 posts)which 11 states?
"Although intelligence officials are (sic) remain unconvinced that any votes were changed, the new evidence that those same attempts occurred in all but 11 states in the U.S. raises all new concerns."
ps. I want formatting back. Please, please, please? (Not to preclude site security, of course.)
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)The title says "voting machine hack confirmed" when the article doesn't say anything about that and provides nothing to back it up at all. And tells us nothing that we didn't know already.
It's not a misleading headline. It's a flat out fucking lie.
Why post this garbage? I'm sure your smart enough to know your repeating a blatant lie for a headline after reading it.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)If by that you mean the machines we use to vote on (though where I live, we use paper opti-scan ballots, and electronic machines are available only if you wish to use one). There is no confirmation that any actual voting machines were affected. Or at least yet. That is not what any of the articles have stated.
It was the voter database systems in 39 states that were attacked. From Vox:
The hack into Illinois’s election system is the one we know the most about. Ken Menzel, who serves as general counsel for the Illinois state board of elections, told Bloomberg that a part-time contractor for the state board of elections noticed unauthorized data leaving the network.
That data contained the personal information of around 15 million people, including names, birthdays, genders, and partial Social Security numbers. It was a huge coup for the Russians, as around half of those 15 million were active voters. Apparently, the cyber intruders aimed to delete or alter voter data they got a hold of.
But even if they did that, that still wouldn’t necessarily have affected the election. It’s the counties that upload voter information to the state, not vice versa. So even if all the rolls were deleted at the state level, there was a backup plan in place to restore all the names.
Voter data wasn’t all the information the hackers were after, though. In a different, unidentified US state, the Russians were able to get information from a campaign finance database, which would give them insight into the financial connections between certain voters and candidates.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/15791744/russia-election-39-states-hack-putin-trump-sessions
Break time
(195 posts)Vote by mail, you get a higher percentage voting and can't be hacked....
