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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,057 posts)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 01:31 PM Jun 2017

In rural America, fewer immigrants and less tolerance

An insurance salesman in rural Louisiana worries that immigration will sink the United States further into debt. In the Ohio countryside, a father of five says immigrants lower wages. But in New Orleans, a lifelong urbanite credits immigrants with rebuilding her hurricane-scarred neighborhood.

A Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation survey of nearly 1,700 Americans — including more than 1,000 in rural areas — reveals that attitudes toward immigrants form one of the widest gulfs between U.S. cities and rural communities.

Rural residents are more likely than people in cities or suburbs to think that immigrants are not adapting to the American way of life. The poll also finds that these views soften in rural areas with significant foreign-born populations.

“I think it’s just people not getting out there and knowing their neighbors,” said Adam Lueck, who lives in a rural part of Minnesota and thinks immigrants strengthen America.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-rural-america-fewer-immigrants-and-less-tolerance/ar-BBCO5Ry?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=edgsp

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angrychair

(8,702 posts)
1. That don't want to know their neighbor
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jun 2017

They are a bunch of racist xenophobic assholes. We have two very, very different and intractable Americas.

There is no fixing it, no matter how hard you try. I am never going to be "ok" with racism, bigotry and religious zealots and hate. I'm never going to compromise. THEY ARE WRONG.

They need their own country and we need our own.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
2. 80% of people don't live in rural areas
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jun 2017

I'm getting really, really REALLY tired of media, politicians and electoral colleges accommodating these people

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
5. The meat packing plant in my hometown is adding more automation lines
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jun 2017

It will drop the number of employees from 900 to 650. In a town of a few thousand, this is catastrophic.

Yet the first thing my mom said was "Now they can get rid of those Somalis."

She's in for a rude awakening, because the Somali and Mexican workers put in more effort than most of the white employees there. And a few hundred fewer families shopping at the local bars, stores and restaurants is going to hit them hard.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
6. I have found going through small towns in the Midwest that its the immigrants who
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:38 PM
Jun 2017

have brought some towns back to life -- small groceries, restaurants, coffee shops, etc. The downtown areas, decimated by Wal-Mart and fast food outlets, were left to insurance offices, an occasional law office, and the courthouse. Those immigrant communities are tax-payers and consumers as well. Rural Americans are in some cases the 3rd generation removed from immigrant family themselves. They want America rolled back to the 40's.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. I think they're embarrassed because they work harder for less. They're hungrier and defy the lazy
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jun 2017

Stereotype. Otherwise they'd never get those jobs- that HAVE to work harder. But it's why they won't be seen as equal.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
9. We can win without rural America. We have done it in the past. When we stick together no one can
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jun 2017

beat us. When we allow those outside and inside to divide us we are not at our best. We need to change the meme and stop allowing the media and our opponents frame our issues and our message we are giving in.

"CHANGE" had its time and place and it suited the messenger for us in 2008. We now need a different frame. Trump used the "make America great again" to win over his unthinking base. "Drain the swamp...all those things the GOP used against us and the message some among us used against us like "elitist" and "rigged" and even "crooked."

There is one thing that Bill Clinton did like no other President in my life time. He was truly the explainer-in-chief. Every time he spoke in public and to the public you learned something. You were provoked to thinking. Hillary tried but without the charisma of Bill and the constant drowning out her message by the media she was not the effective messenger. And I do not hear anyone out there even attempting to EXPLAIN to the voters what our new economy is all about. Not even Bernie, bless his heart, is doing that and as a matter of fact I do not remember his doing that during 2016 campaign.

It's not about who gives speeches to Wall Street or whose e-mails were hacked or about forgetting about the working men and women. It's about being honest with the working men and women and letting them know what we need to do to get the skills to meet the demands of a new economy AND what we need to learn about multiculturalism. It's not that cops have dangerous jobs and we should support them. It's about the fact that there are bad cops, badly trained cops, racist law enforcement among the thousands of good, decent law enforcement officials and it's about what we need to do as a country to rid our nation of the fascist bad cops. It's about sending another message of HOPE and HELP. It's about being in this thing together so that when someone shouts out that we are "losers" and that we don't win and the shit Trump threw out there basically UNCHALLENGED. It's about reminding the voters of which party and which administrations were for them and brought to them the social safety net and prosperous time when all ships were rising.

Yes, there are a lot ignorant voters out there. And they are out there for various reasons. Some are just plain racist and will never change. Others just don't know any better. We need to forget trying to get a message of conversions to the first group and focus on educating and getting to know the second group.

Its really sad to see that the one thing that is getting everyone's attention that might bring us together is the very thing that tore us apart for the past 40 years: drug addiction. This epidemic, sad as it is, is forcing people to come together to fight their help after years of just despising and ignoring the addiction problem facing the inner cities. The chickens are home to roost and it ain't pretty but it might ultimately save us from totally destroying ourselves.

OK so I am rambling but I am sickened about my country.

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