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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen did you first start to dislike tRump?
Mine is a very easy answer.
It was back in the early 1990s. I wasn't very fond of the syndicated TV show ET - Entertainment Tonight but watched it anyway because it was on after the local and national news. Anyhow this was a time when the marriage of the Donald and Ivana was falling apart because he was boinking and breaking in a new model in Marla Maples. I had barely known about tRump or at least wasn't paying much attention at the time.
But when the story broke of his infidelity it was on about every night on Entertainment Tonight. First Ivana saying how terrible tRump was for shacking up. The next night tRump blasting Ivana for being a terrible woman. This spat went on and on between the two for about 1-1/2 to 2 weeks between the two and Marla opening her mouth and joining in the fun.
I finally was fed up. This guy was not an entertainer like DiNiro, Oprah or Aerosmith, so why did we have to be privy to all the sorted details of their sinking marriage and him looking for a younger trophy wife. I asked my wife if we can turn on something else after the news other than ET. My wife was okay with it, in fact she only kept it on because she thought I liked it.
From that day forward we switched and haven't watched ET since. I remember back then thinking, I'll never have to hear about this clown ever again ... at least that's the way I thought it would go.
Anyone else?
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Everyone thought he was an asshole.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and it was all downhill from there.
ADX
(1,622 posts)...and as far back as I can remember, we've always known him to be a scumbag con-man.
no_hypocrisy
(46,122 posts)I hated him the first time New York Magazine ran its "Meet The Trumps" article like he was someone important when he wasn't.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)scumbag asshole.
phylny
(8,380 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)you are so right "stopbush"
Runningdawg
(4,520 posts)of people in NYC who grew to hate him in the late 70's early 80's.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)I remember (and I still have issues) of SPY magazine ragging on him every chance they had way back then.
The owner/publisher, Graydon Carter, still rags Trump with Vanity Fair magazine.
ribrepin
(1,726 posts)His affair with Marla just lower my opinion.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)He was whining to Congress that tribal casinos were "unfair" competition for his casinos. He was such a pile of pretentious privilege, totally disgusting. As far as I'm aware, he has never said or done anything to change that perception.
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Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... there were elements of truth to what he said? I'm referring to him mentioning the influx of mobsters in those casinos. On the other hand, that's something that probably happens in many casinos... like the ones that Trump owned!
I didn't see his testimony years ago, but I saw it later online after I spent the night at a Native American casino in the upper peninsula of Michigan. I stayed at the casino after the long drive into the area for a hiking/camping/fishing trip.
The parking spaces reserved for Native American managers were all empty. I ate in their buffet and there were lots of problems. I didn't even complain much, but I asked the payment clerk if they were short-handed that night or if the missing food options and slow service was pretty common. I wasn't angry when I asked about it and I even expressed sympathy for the situation. She acted personally insulted by it for whatever reason and I apologized and explained with a smile that it wasn't a big deal, and I certainly didn't fault her. I made the payment and noticed that she approached a short Italian-looking guy while pointing at me! I walked over to the casino area to try a slot machine with a complimentary card that I received at check-in. It didn't seem to work, so I then walked over to the casino customer service desk to inquire about it. She explained that something else needed done before it would work, and she started to do it, but then the short Italian-looking guy approached and yelled at her, "Hole punch! Hole punch!" He had a New York-ish accent. He then walked away. The young woman acted flabbergasted, but then she put a hole in the card (through the magnetic strip) and whispered to me that the card wouldn't work now! I couldn't believe the petty behavior! I looked over my shoulder and the Italian-looking guy was looking at me from a distance with a smirk on his face! It wasn't that big of a deal because the card had been complimentary with a small credit on it anyway. I decided to just go to my room and go to bed because I wanted to get up very early to start the camping trip anyway. When I returned home about a week later, I Googled Indian casinos and mobsters, and that's when I saw the old Trump testimony.
JI7
(89,252 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 26, 2017, 04:23 AM - Edit history (1)
but i never liked him or thought or knew much about him before that.
bresue
(1,007 posts)And I was proud of Rosie that she did not back down from his results! This was my first sour taste in my mouth for all things Dump!! And if any GOP justifies his name calling 'Miss Piggy' as normal, than they are unchristian! And we know Dump's hard core supporters are TV evangelists watchers.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)He came across as a narcissistic con man then, and time has only embellished that impression.
He is a truly awful human being.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I have just heard about him, seen him on t.v, and read about him and did not like the person he was/is.
KT2000
(20,583 posts)hotel. Always thought he was an ass but after he bought the hotel he bragged about screwing Griffen over on the deal. At that time Griffen was up in years and not in good health. That was when I determined he was a low life shithead.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Up until that point, he wasn't remotely on my radar. I had zero interest in him, his life, or anything else involving him. He was just some tacky douche that I didn't care about
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)I wrote him off as a lunatic. Serious batshit crazy lunatic!
I was going NUTZO during 2016 with him gaining ground in the R primaries.
OMG
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Donnie, Jr., Eric, and Ivanka are cut from the same cloth as their father. Spoiled, over privileged, entitled. Hard to respect them when they play the victim card all the time.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I moved to Las Vegas primarily because betting on that league was so easy. It was cupcakes. I would make 3-team parlays and be surprised if I lost. You could bet the same teams every week. The chief Las Vegas oddsmaker later conceded it was by far the worst work he had ever done. No kidding. The games were college-type disparity but they were hanging odds like it was pro football sameness. I was living in Los Angeles but so obsessed with the USFL that I was calling the phone number with updated odds every 10-15 minutes.
The league had a nice niche as a spring league but Trump destroyed it via moronic fall/NFL aspirations that had no chance.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)to build tRump Tower. Bastard couldn't wait a couple of days for the Metropolitan Museum of Art to come in and conserve them.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/trump-files-when-donald-destroyed-priceless-art-build-trump-tower/
New Yorkers have that remember have never forgiven him for that.
mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:06 AM - Edit history (1)
late 50's-mid 60's and used to go to Bonwit's shopping with my mom.
Even though we moved to California in 1965, we stayed in touch with neighbors, friends and we heard about
what he'd done when he destroyed those art deco panels.
A$$hole.
There are photos in this story, which, if you click, you can enlarge to see the details of what was destroyed.
http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/18/trumps-first-media-controversy-is-a-really-great-story/
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)Before that, he was just another rich egocentric asscarrot who played in his world while I played in mine.
airmid
(500 posts)him and so did I. She died a few years ago but if she were still alive, him being President would have killed her.
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)He was already pulling shady shit when he was involved with selling and revamping MSG in the late 1970's when I was a kid growing up and playing ice hockey on L.I. Once he got married (Ivana), my parents regularly ridiculed him for his hucksterism, his greed and for what they called his "mail-order bride."
I, too, thought this guy died with the 20th century.
"More the fool, I."
Resist!
Vote 2018!
DFW
(54,405 posts)She was dressed as a Mickey Mouse character at some charity event for ghetto children on the New Jersey shore. Trump was to fly in as a celebrity guest, although she said most of the kids seemed to have no idea who he was. He flew in his helicopter, gathered the children around, and told them that if they worked really hard like he did, they, too would someday have their own helicopter. And then he got back in his helicopter and flew off. Everyone said a collective "HUH?" and then went back to whatever they were doing.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)shit hole tower i think.
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)I never gave him much thought at all. There are a lot of rich pricks in he world who are greedy and have no clue about the world. He is a ridiculous example of a human being. His name would chomp every now and then in a tv show or book as an example of a rich guy. I was aware that he had a reality tv but I never watched it. He was a left over from the 1980s who was desperately trying to get attention. I guess I really started to hate him when he said Mexicans were rapist when he started running for president. I started to really despise him that day. I loathed him more every day since.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)Atlantic City.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)It was clear to me very soon after I saw him in the media that he was a self-promoting, low-character narcissist.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I read everything I could get my hands on, so it wasn't really a matter of taste, it was just there (my dad brought it home). It was literally nothing but DFT talking about how great he was at "making deals." That's when DFT first entered my consciousness as a shitty self-aggrandizing salesman.
I was dimly aware of him throughout the 90s but recall thinking he was an asshole after he suggested the Central Park 5 deserved the death penalty even after they were acquitted.
Then the Rosie O'Donnell feud was bad enough... but
The birther bullshit sealed the deal. Fuck him straight to hell.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)I just knew this was someone that I wouldn't want to do lunch with. So I guess I never liked him and thought him a pompous arse who was all about self-promotion. I took a little secret pleasure when he was in financial trouble. I thought it might be good for him. But his kind never really lose, everyone around them does.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)In 2008 he wanted a remodeled bathroom at Maralago. He came to my husbands work and wanted them to do the work. When they gave him the price, he said no,"I think you should do it at no cost. You can tell everyone that you remodeled my home."
The owner told him to get out. He of course wanted something for nothing!!
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I didn't NEED to know about his bankruptcies, his stiffing contractors, his misogyny...I disliked him before hearing about any of that. All he had to do was open his mouth.
underpants
(182,829 posts)I never understood the "brand" thing - why would anyone want anything associated with him?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I just associate the name Trump with trashiness and vulgarity, which is I suppose the opposite of what they think it represents.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)And I can't recall how or when I first learned of him but I know my impressions have always been negative. And it's juts continued to go down from there.
mnmoderatedem
(3,728 posts)not until the campaign. Then I realized how monumentally stupid the guy is. How he couldn't find his ass with both hands and a GPS tracker. Juvenile, childish, boorish, clueless. Keeps blathering on and on while obviously having no idea how utterly idiotic he is.
Of course the hatred toward trumpie since he started putting his policies in pace is starkly self evident.
CozyMystery
(652 posts)I remember his marriages, divorces, reality show, and then his attacks on Obama and the birther stuff.
I didn't watch tv back then because I was too busy. I did the read the newspapers, and later the news on the internet, though.
By the time he ran for president this time around, I paid attention to him on purpose. I thought he was not electable. He didn't know anything about being the president, he lied, he incited violence and hatred, his campaign was a continuous attack on the other candidates, and I thought he was a con man, a sociopath and a malignant narcissist.
It was obvious to me. I thought it was obvious to everyone. It should have been since so many voted against their own interests.
Doodley
(9,093 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He is the most repulsive person on the planet.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...trump towers every where. what a narcissist I thought.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)And then I regarded him as a not-terribly-entertaining reality TV star. The noise about Ivana and Marla and whatever else he did was just tabloid headlines at the grocery store checkout. I thought his run for office was a publicity stunt and, to this day, I think it might have been. He doesn't want to be POTUS, he wants to be the subject of worship. He never meant to win. I hope the country survives this debacle.
treestar
(82,383 posts)might have vaguely wondered why any press was covering him and why any women would fight over him. So it was only when he started running and things came out like the tape of him telling people to get someone out and he'd pay the bills if they beat him up, making fun of the disabled reporter and just his ugly voice and unprofessional demeanor.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Has always just seemed like a smug, rich airhead.
Thirties Child
(543 posts)I don't know how I knew about him since I've never watched ET.
madokie
(51,076 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)So I'd say from the get-go.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)I couldn't stomach him even when I was a kid.
I read the report about him denying housing to minorities, flouting anti-discrimination laws, in 1973. and that rubbed me the wrong way. Even back then, he was an insufferable bigot whose hatred was outdone only by his shameless self-promotion, just like his no-good, KKK father.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)He and his father are vile.
And every single person of color and non-racist in his camp are reprehensible.
ananda
(28,866 posts)And I only watched 5 minutes of The Apprentice once
and that was enough.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)I vaguely knew who he was and had heard of his marital escapades, but had never watched his dumb TV show or otherwise paid him much mind - as far as I knew he was just another rich, flamboyant asshole; a louche, obnoxious habitué of the New York social scene. When he started in on his "birther" crusade I saw that he was a much bigger and more toxic asshole than I had previously realized.
LeftInTX
(25,372 posts)In the 80s, he was tabloid fodder and appeared on annoying shows like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. I kinda followed the Marla Maples thing because it was in People magazine at a doctor's office.
I didn't have the time or effort to pay any attention to him. I really had no opinion of him. There was also Leona Helmsly and bunch of other characters bursting on the scene around that time. Throw in the Reagan excesses and yuck.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)When he first started bragging about accumulating wealth through NYC real easte by destroying those who did not have the financial means to fight him.
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Donald- YOU'RE FIRED. FUCKER!
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)in front of the WH.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)He reminds me of my asshole brother-in-law.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)itcfish
(1,828 posts)I've always hated him. I think most NYers do too.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)for NYers who had the "pleasure" of meeting him.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, I'm still scratching my head as to why he got the attention he did even back then.
Mad-in-Mo
(229 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)......except I could have cared less about his infidelities.....but I was disgusted by how he spoke about his wife, women in general, his creepy relationship with his daughter and anytime he opened his anus mouth what came out of it. He is dishonest and narcissistic and he is a phony who pretended he was a success. His Trump Tower and everything he touched was gaudy and tacky and I don't know a New Yorker who doesn't hate him and will never forget what he did to the Bonwit Teller art that could have been saved and he chose not to save. I have never met anyone who liked him or spoke highly of him. I went to Penn and the Wharton School and everyone joked about him claiming he went to Wharton when in fact it was the undergraduate program and he transferred in and he was an asshole nobody with no friends and nobody had anything nice to say about him. He was and is a joke. His book "The Art of the Deal" was a joke. No one I have met has ever believed he was a Billionaire and I think the first time I ever heard of bankruptcy in the media multiple times was in stories about Trump.
Then the birther episode and what he said about Obama happened and I thought this man is seriously delusional and not well in the head (in addition to an asshole and a phony).
When the Pussygrabbing video came out and he didn't apologize and all the women who came forward, I wasn't surprised, but thoroughly disgusted and it brought up for me my own trauma from my past of being sexually assaulted, especially when I saw how it was just ignored essentially or excused by so many. That should have been the end of his political ambitions.
When he mocked the disabled WP reporter, made his statements about Gold Star parents (the Khans), suggested violence and beating protesters at his rallys and suggested that they go ahead, he will pay for the legal bills......thats when I knew that this man was absolute scum and with no morals and very very dangerous...
The list goes on of course and what he does everyday he occupies space in our world...the danger he poses to the world and our futures....
I don't dislike this man.....I loathe him....I don't consider him human....he makes me ill....I never thought I would say this, but I would happily take back George W Bush if we were given the option...Cheney also....
Yeah, its that bad....
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Ass yelling and abusing his minions in the Houston airport.
One of the worst public display of assholery I have ever seen.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)....I was sitting with my parents watching ABC News tonight and the divorce was a leading story, and I remember my dad shouting at the TV, "Why the hell should anyone care about Donald Trump and why is this news?"
Then I remember reading about his bankruptcies and thinking, "If this guy portrays himself to be such a masterful businessman and super rich guy, why is he going bankrupt and why is he living like money's not an issue to him?"
Then I remember reading the National Enquirer at my grandparents' house (because that was really the only reading material they had laying around on hand) back when Ivanka was still a pre-teen and they were already heralding her as the next great supermodel and I remember feeling rather skeeved out about that. (Trump has been longtime friends with the National Enquirer's publisher which explains their glowing coverage of him over the years.)
Then I remember a dispute Trump got into with Palm Beach International Airport because they had the audacity to have the flightpath of airplanes flying into the airport near Mar a Lago.
Then I remember reading about how he completely ruined the USFL.
I never liked him at all, even before he was political. He always seemed to me to be a super-sketchy, narcissitic and thin skinned charlatan. There were very few celebrities I actively disliked, but he was one of them. He always rubbed me the wrong way.
ecstatic
(32,709 posts)when he started with the racist birther rants and demands for President Obama's college transcripts.
TrishaJ
(798 posts)going to create another successful professional football league and ruined Herschel Walker's senior year of eligibility at Georgia because Trump wanted Walker to be the centerpiece for his new team, the "New Jersey Generals." An agent for Trump contacted Herschel with the offer and that was a violation of NCAA rules; Walker had to forfeit his senior season.
kydo
(2,679 posts)I LOL and thought geez what a funny looking maroon. I liked bugs bunny back then. My opinion of the orange faced man has not changed. He is an idiot, just an older idiot now.
oasis
(49,389 posts)In a highly publicized trade of multi-million dollar properties, Trump continuously bragged to the media about how he got the better of Griffin.
Griffin, on the other hand, just shrugged it of, saying he was more than satisfied with the deal because he got exactly what he was looking for.
ConnorMarc
(653 posts)That drew the line for me.
I was a NYer from late 97's to '07 and just found him to be mildly entertaining, knew that many found him to be an a-hole, but the birther campaign was the last straw for me.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)But when he was planning that abomination of a building in Chicago, and we found out in short order that he didn't have 2% of the money needed, i convinced myself he was a flim-flam artist. I believe i have been proven correct.
mvd
(65,174 posts)He symbolized greedy, entitled rich people.
But it is only when he started getting political during the Obama years that I developed a special dislike.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Now he's a tabloid and a danger to me.
Never liked him. He was never my problem before now. He should have remained that way for everyone.
He was a big joke that made the news from time to time. An obnoxious man with a loud mouth.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)touting how fucking great he was.
doc03
(35,346 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,034 posts)Not sure exactly when.
Let me start by saying I read "Art of the Deal" in 1988. The book makes him look like a pretty okay guy. (Found out last year the book was ghost written.)
He touted what a sure bet the casino business was. Yet later his Atlantic City casino went bankrupt.
His father bought a shitload of chips in an attempt to bail him out.
About the same time the Seattle area was experiencing the tech boom. Out of that came several self made billionaires whose net worth put Donald Trump to shame.
These people in my mind were the real entrepreneurs.
Finally when he got involved in the whole birther nonsense he came off as no more than a bloviating gasbag.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Back then, I always considered him to be a wannabee Gordon Gekko from the movie Wall Street.
Nothing has ever changed my opinion of him.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I was disgusted by the manner in which he spoke to women on the show.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)much about him until after 2008. He unleashed all of his bigotry out of the closet as a Black man dared to become president. As I heard more about the Birther movement, Donald's father, and the housing controversy in the 1970s, that was how my distaste towards him grew. It's one thing to be a Republican, but I have zero respect for him after not only all of this, but after how he was endorsed by conspiracy kooks, the KKK, and Russia, and how he called his opponent "Crooked Hillary" even though he himself has been under scrutiny and investigation for shady dealings. I respect him so little that I never refer to him as "President".