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*****BREAKING***** SCOTUS TO HEAR TRUMP'S ERSATZ MUSLIM BAN CASE (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 OP
Per a bunch of sources BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #1
Trump broke everything. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #2
Consensus response was BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #3
I've Finally Had It... teal briar Jun 2017 #4
I would miss the weather and my friends. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #5
Dem, when we followed our son to Georgia from Hortensis Jun 2017 #7
Don't blame you exactly, but sure wish the Hortensis Jun 2017 #6

BumRushDaShow

(129,077 posts)
1. Per a bunch of sources
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jun 2017

Allowing a "limited portion" to go into effect.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141807559

NYT
Supreme Court Will Hear Travel Ban Case

By ADAM LIPTAK JUNE 26, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court announced on Monday that it will decide whether President Trump’s revised travel ban was lawful, setting the stage for a major decision on the scope of presidential power.

Mr. Trump’s revised executive order, issued in March, limited travel from six mostly Muslim countries for 90 days and suspended the nation’s refugee program for 120 days. The time was needed, the order said, to address gaps in the government’s screening and vetting procedures. Two federal appeals courts have blocked key parts of the order.

The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, in Richmond, Va., ruled last month that the limits on travel from the six countries violated the First Amendment’s ban on government establishment of religion. Relying on Mr. Trump’s statements during the presidential campaign, where he called for a “Muslim ban,” the court said the order “drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination.”

The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in San Francisco, recently blocked both the limits on travel and the suspension of the refugee program. It ruled on statutory rather than constitutional grounds, saying Mr. Trump had exceeded the authority granted him by Congress.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/politics/supreme-court-trump-travel-ban-case.html

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. Trump broke everything.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jun 2017

Of course some people should be barred from entering the United States if they pose a threat. They shouldn't be barred just because they are a member of a disfavored group.

BumRushDaShow

(129,077 posts)
3. Consensus response was
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 10:57 AM
Jun 2017

“We grant the government’s applications to stay the injunctions, to the extent the injunctions prevent enforcement of” Mr. Trump’s executive order “with respect to foreign nationals who lack any bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States.”

teal briar

(3 posts)
4. I've Finally Had It...
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jun 2017

Seven years ago, I moved to Europe - first to France and now in Netherlands. I have now lived in countries that:
1. Provide either free or very inexpensive healthcare to EVERYONE. In Netherlands, I am required to have Dutch healthcare insurance. Full coverage including doctors, hospitals, prescriptions, dental, vision, and alternative therapies (chiropractic).... premium (96 euros/month - approx. $108/month)
2. Provide higher education at world class universities is essentially free or may cost as much as $2000 (US) per YEAR
3. Provide public transportation is available to all cities and towns; powered by electricity provided by wind farms
4. Allow Government leadership to be elected through direct popular vote
5. Ban no one from entering the country based upon his/her religion
6. Allow anyone to marry the person of his/her choice, and if they choose not to be married, legal partnerships bear the same benefits as marriage
7. Tolerates no interference by religious organizations in the affairs of government
8. Have legalized euthanasia
9. Have legalized recreational marijuana is legal
10. Have legalized prostitution
11. Have no restrictions on abortion
12. Allow no one to live in poverty
13. Have taxation system that are actually called taxes, not fees, or assessments, or other euphemisms used in the US to hide real taxes. When added all up, the tax burder is nearly equal.

So.... after having gone through nearly 7 months of handwringing, weeping, and gnashing of teeth over what has happened to America, I have finally had enough of worrying myself sick over it all. Americans chose Trump now they must live with their choice. As pathetic and inane as he is, he is yours... I will never return. The hate Trump has fostered will live for at least a generation, even if he is impeached tomorrow.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. I would miss the weather and my friends.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jun 2017

At least here in the Golden State we are somewhat immune from the most toxic effects of Trumpism.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Dem, when we followed our son to Georgia from
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jun 2017

California, we knew what we were leaving behind, but we imagined the Reagan era was ending and that the nation would be entering a new liberal era--and we'd be a tiny part of it in the south. Then political scientists changed their predictions as the destructive effects of huge money in politics and media radically changed the course of our nation.

So, here we are, on the wrong side of the intensely hostile partisan divide and wondering if the combination of disastrous, economy-blasting global warming and the current attempted move to third-world economics could destroy the wellbeing of this entire region. It is very beautiful where we live, but that only goes so far. Like everyone else in our congressional district, we literally owe the paved roads and electricity to our house to federal income redistribution, but I don't know anyone who's wondered what it would mean if they got what they think they want and people like the Kochs succeeded in closing that spigot even as heat and fresh water problems multiply.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Don't blame you exactly, but sure wish the
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jun 2017

weak, whiny, already-defeated ones on this board followed your lead. Even if only electronically. They could join European boards and gabble about what's happening here and how glad they are to be gone, even if only emotionally. Of course bemoan the "death" of democracy in America; they could quarrel endlessly about just which decade that happened alone.

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