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ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:39 PM Jun 2017

If the bill is passed & signed, it means that 2018 is already rigged

Republicans and the White House are now lying about the "healthcare" bill and it's cuts to Medicaid. To me, that shows that they don't fear any consequences. Just my opinion.

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ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
4. Yes, Plan B. The first step is to acknowledge reality
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jun 2017

A lot of us still want to believe that the left and right will eventually unite and everything will go back to normal.

Once most of us start acknowledging reality, I think there are simple steps progressives can take to move forward without republicans.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
10. I think we need to turn our backs to the GOP hate machine.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:22 PM
Jun 2017

The best way to stop trolls is to stop feeding them. If we don't give them any food, they got no reason to complain.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
2. I agree. The days of free and fair elections are over
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:46 PM
Jun 2017

if they ever existed. There's always been fuckery, but what happened last year was beyond anything we've seen, and nothing will be done to stop it because they ended up in power.. they didn't win, but there they are, and with comrade gorsuck on the SC, well, you know.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
11. Posts like this are why I like Louise Mensch. At least she's not telling people it's hopeless
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:26 PM
Jun 2017

and we might as well give up.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
12. I never said it was hopeless
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:42 PM
Jun 2017

but we could sure use a rock star right about now to get people who don't vote and don't engage to rise up and do both. The only reason the system could be so rigged was because nearly 50% of eligibles didn't bother to vote. Voter suppression takes it's toll for sure, but it's not the whole picture.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
5. America is in peril.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jun 2017

With all the skullduggery happening, who has their eyes on Russia? They aren't going anywhere.

unblock

(52,257 posts)
8. Yes, the devious (and cowardly) phase-in
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:04 PM
Jun 2017

I wasn't sure it was going to pass until I heard about the phase-in. That's how they're trying to escape political consequences.

In 2018, they'll cite current statistics to show that few people have lost coverage and ignore the fact that millions will in the following few years....

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. Republicans could have said the same thing about the ACA,
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:04 AM
Jun 2017

which was also unpopular when it was passed.

The claims of grand conspiracy are more than a little silly.

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